Why so many gay couples in tv shows?

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But it’s not the same thing, and you know this.

And—is marrying an animal the same thing? No. Is polygamy? No.

Let’s get to polygamy. Why can a woman not have multiple husbands, or vice versa?
 
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Let’s get to polygamy. Why can a woman not have multiple husbands, or vice versa?
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Other than unleashing chaos on certain industries and programs (employer healthcare, pensions, assistance programs, etc) or the logistical mess with divorcing I don’t have a real objection in principal. Obviously, this has proven problematic in practice, but there’s other forces at play IRL.
 
But, the government can’t use things like that to bar consenting people from marrying, no matter how many partners there will be in the marriage.
 
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Atreju:
And Americans I think are very open to the argument that “everyone should have the same rights and have freedom”, it’s kind of the American ideal.
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Do you believe there was some right heterosexual people enjoyed that homosexual people were denied?
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How about having a job and not being afraid you might get fired if your employer knew what your sexual orientation was.
 
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Even most catholics think gay marriage should be legal.
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So, whether it is Catholics, protestants or whomever the problem is the reason many people feel these things are okay is because we are being desensitized to what is right and what is wrong. This didn’t just happen recently, the television and movie industry has been pushing their agenda since their beginnings. They have a great influence on the culture and they know it and have always known it. Same sex relationships is just one more addition to the immorality coming out of the movie and television industry but the big media campaign to desensitize and deceive people started around 1990.

Many Catholics may agree with it but It doesn’t make it right. (didn’t your mother ever talk to you about not jumping in to the water just because your friends did?) Agreeing with an evil just means they have been deceived and accepted what is wrong and sinful.
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So the question is why do you expect that advertisers should disagree with most Amercians?
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It’s not about them agreeing or disagreeing with most of any Americans. They never have agreed with most Americans. They are the ones that are influencing most Americans. Advertisers and the movie and television industry should try and promote good but they do not, they influence for evil. There are some exceptions but for the most part they are the ones working to get Americans to agree with them and their immorality.

Sometimes it is best just to turn the TV off.
 
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Atreju said:
Serious question, are Catholics commanded to politically oppose same sex marriage?
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Catholic Church policy with respect to same sex unions is set forth in the document “Considerations Regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions Between Homosexual Persons.” It can be found HERE.

The key to Catholic obligations regarding such proposals is set forth in the last paragraph of Section II, quoted here:

“In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.”
 
It’s actually statusy vodka, or used to be. Not that I care, I’m a bourbon man. Kentucky and Tennessee style.
 
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Rozellelily said:
It seems like Absolut is still trying to appeal to all markets🙄
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I think when companies do this they’re betting that they’ll gain favor with urban cosmopolites by displaying their ‘virtue’ as seen by progressive thinkers, and that will offset any disfavor they generate with traditional-minded consumers. I saw this ad on a subway car (urban setting), for example. Or maybe they think the periphery-dwelling traditional-minded won’t even see it.
 
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It’s actually statusy vodka, or used to be. Not that I care, I’m a bourbon man. Kentucky and Tennessee style.
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That’s what I thought too. I still think it’s pretty good quality (although I can’t taste much difference in vodkas unless the vodka in question is truly rotgut, and then I feel the difference immediately).

Bourbon is a really wonderful spirit.
 
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I saw The Ten Commandments (1956), it was fine. What I’m talking about is portraying sexual perversion as somehow ‘normal.’
 
So this also means watching police procedurals or detective whodunnit shows where murder is featured is also sin?

Nothing more immoral than murder.
 
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Atreju:
Even most catholics think gay marriage should be legal.
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So, whether it is Catholics, protestants or whomever the problem is the reason many people feel these things are okay is because we are being desensitized to what is right and what is wrong. This didn’t just happen recently, the television and movie industry has been pushing their agenda since their beginnings.
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I think that you’re overstating the role of TV and film in changing how Americans view homosexuality. Here’s what it says in the Wikipedia article, “History of homosexuality in American film”:
During the Second World War and the subsequent Cold War, Hollywood increasingly depicted gay men and women as sadists, psychopaths, and nefarious, anti-social villains. These depictions were driven by the censorship of the code, which was willing to allow “sexual perversion” if it was depicted in a negative manner, as well as the fact that homosexuality was classified as a mental illness and gay men and women were often harassed by the police…

Following the 1969 Stonewall riots in New York City (a major turning point in the LGBT-rights movement), Hollywood began to look at gay people as a possible consumer demographic. It was also in the 1970s, that some anti-gay laws and prejudicial attitudes changed through the work of an increasingly visible LGBT-rights movement and overall attitudes in America about human sexuality, sex and gender roles changed as a result of LGBT-rights, women’s liberation and the sexual revolution…

Despite the growing tolerance of homosexuality during the 1970s, some Hollywood films throughout the decade still depicted homosexuality as an insult or a joke. Gay characters were sometimes depicted in mainstream films as dangerous misfits who needed to be cured or killed. Some films would even use anti-gay derogatory comments, often made by the protagonist, in a manner that was not done in Hollywood films with regards to other minority groups. Films like Cruising (1980) and Windows, for example, portrayed gays in an unrelentingly negative light.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality_in_American_film

It really wasn’t until the late 1980’s and early 1990’s that we started to get more positive portrayals of gay people. Before that, they were mostly negative. The LGBT rights movement and other changes in American society were much more important in changing people’s views.
 
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Atreju said:
If they ban showing gay couples (not even being explicit at all), should they also ban commercials for alcohol on the grounds that Mormons and Muslims consider its consumption immoral? Or pork products that could offend Jews and Muslims? Serious question.
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This is not a good comparison. The problem is that most Mormoms, Muslims, Jews along with Christians believe that homosexual activity is immoral and goes against God’s laws. I say most because there are those who are rejecting God’s law in each group and following what the world is now saying about homosexuality. Also, many Jewish people are no longer religious but secular so they do not follow the law regarding pork.

Not showing commercials or shows with people eating pork would better be compared to Catholics not eating meat on Fridays during Lent or Seventh Day Adventists not eating meat rather than being compared to sexual immorality.

As far as alcohol, even though there are those religious who do not believe alcohol in itself is a sin, I am pretty sure most all would agree that the overconsumption, getting drunk, is a sin.
 
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