Why won't non-Catholic Christians recite the Holy Rosary?

[Ronald_E]

Jimmy,

You may have forgotten that I am the one that has children that attend a Roman Catholic school. Don’t you think that if I truly thought that the Catholic Church was all messed-up that I would send my children elsewhere? I came to this forum to learn more about the Catholic Church - not to be constantly given a noogie…

FYI-- I made a point during Lent to attend the weekly Stations of the Cross at the children’s school. I also attend pretty regularly the weekly school Mass( besides our church Sunday Mass and weekly Healing Mass). There was a post made here today or yesterday about how some of us come across on this forum. I am sorry if I come across as an anti-Catholic on this forum and have offended anyone.

Peace!

I like what you said and the humility in which you expressed yourself. I hope it wasn’t the noogie that influenced you.

 

[Jimmy_B]

Jimmy,

You may have forgotten that I am the one that has children that attend a Roman Catholic school. Don’t you think that if I truly thought that the Catholic Church was all messed-up that I would send my children elsewhere? I came to this forum to learn more about the Catholic Church - not to be constantly given a noogie…

FYI-- I made a point during Lent to attend the weekly Stations of the Cross at the children’s school. I also attend pretty regularly the weekly school Mass( besides our church Sunday Mass and weekly Healing Mass). There was a post made here today or yesterday about how some of us come across on this forum. I am sorry if I come across as an anti-Catholic on this forum and have offended anyone.

Peace!

Hello emeraldcoast,

I’m not offended. I liked this last post and I’ll pray for you and your family. You and I both know that this isn’t the only post of yours that have have read, or responded to.

I wasn’t giving you a “noogie”, I was posting a response to what you had previously written, which I clearly viewed as an attack on the Rosary; a Catholic devotion.

Although, it isn’t a Catholic “requirement” to pray the Rosary, many Catholics do and your earlier comments here, inferred that doing so (reciting the Rosary) was some how, going against the teachings of Jesus Christ and that is what I took offence to.

The purpose of my post was to help educate people about the Rosary.

Additionally, I am happy that your children are attending a Catholic school but as a Catholic, I know that attending a Catholic school, doesn’t make one Catholic.

There were kids, who went to my oldest son’s Catholic high school, who were practicing Muslims and neither they, nor their parents had any intention on converting to Catholicism. They were there for a good Catholic education, not to become Catholic, maybe this isn’t true for your kids. I don’t know if they are attending Catechism or Confirmation classes, because you haven’t said but that is how one becomes “Catholic” and for adults, it is through the RCIA program.

In the United States, Catechism and Confirmation classes are not a requirement in Catholic schools and are something that parents need to pursue through their (Catholic) parishes but you probably already knew this.

Those who attend Catholic schools are not required to convert to Catholicism, before, during or after a Catholic education.

This is a little off-topic, but I am glad that you brought this up, because there is a misconception, by many non-Catholics that because someone attends a Catholic school that they are somehow “Catholic” or “more Catholic” and this just isn’t the case.

I think ecumenicalism is important and I pray for true Christian unity and that people like you and your family, come to learn the truths found in Catholicism. However, I am not going to compromise my own Catholic faith and jeopardize my own soul, for the sake of ecumenicalism.

Therefore, I will continue to post in defense of my Roman Catholic faith and continue to make every effort to post in a way, which is not contrary to Catholic beliefs.

I will also continue to be polite and courteous, when posting; while keeping Christian charity as an important priority.

Continue your journey.

Peace

 

[Jimmy_B]

Hello emeraldcoast,

I’m not offended. I liked this last post and I’ll pray for you and your family. You and I both know that this isn’t the only post of yours that have have read, or responded to.

I wasn’t giving you a “noogie”, I was posting a response to what you had previously written, which I clearly viewed as an attack on the Rosary; a Catholic devotion.

Although, it isn’t a Catholic “requirement” to pray the Rosary, many Catholics do and your earlier comments here, inferred that doing so (reciting the Rosary) was some how, going against the teachings of Jesus Christ and that is what I took offence to.

The purpose of my post was to help educate people about the Rosary.

Additionally, I am happy that your children are attending a Catholic school but as a Catholic, I know that attending a Catholic school, doesn’t make one Catholic.

There were kids, who went to my oldest son’s Catholic high school, who were practicing Muslims and neither they, nor their parents had any intention on converting to Catholicism. They were there for a good Catholic education, not to become Catholic, maybe this isn’t true for your kids. I don’t know if they are attending Catechism or Confirmation classes, because you haven’t said but that is how one becomes “Catholic” and for adults, it is through the RCIA program.

In the United States, Catechism and Confirmation classes are not a requirement in Catholic schools and are something that parents need to pursue through their (Catholic) parishes but you probably already knew this.

Those who attend Catholic schools are not required to convert to Catholicism, before, during or after a Catholic education.

This is a little off-topic, but I am glad that you brought this up, because there is a misconception, by many non-Catholics that because someone attends a Catholic school that they are somehow “Catholic” or “more Catholic” and this just isn’t the case.

I think ecumenicalism is important and I pray for true Christian unity and that people like you and your family, come to learn the truths found in Catholicism. However, I am not going to compromise my own Catholic faith and jeopardize my own soul, for the sake of ecumenicalism.

Therefore, I will continue to post in defense of my Roman Catholic faith and continue to make every effort to post in a way, which is not contrary to Catholic beliefs.

I will also continue to be polite and courteous, when posting; while also keeping Christian charity as an important priority.

Continue your journey.

Peace

 

[Frank_J]

Latin Rosary is for westerners and not for the Eastern Church. We have the Prayer Rope. Hey evern your eastern catholic group don’t use the rosary

If the Prayer Rope brings someone closer to Christ…then what’s the problem here?

The Rosary is not the only prayer that is used for Christian Prayer.

Have you tried to use the Prayer Rope I feel it is better then the Rosary.

 

[LilyM]

Latin Rosary is for westerners and not for the Eastern Church. We have the Prayer Rope. Hey evern your eastern catholic group don’t use the rosary

If the Prayer Rope brings someone closer to Christ…then what’s the problem here?

The Rosary is not the only prayer that is used for Christian Prayer.

Have you tried to use the Prayer Rope I feel it is better then the Rosary.

Having tried both, I do find the Rosary easier - mainly because there is always something very particular and concrete to focus your thoughts on with each decade, an episode of Christ’s or Mary’s life.

With the prayer rope I can’t just focus on the words, there are so few of them and they’re repeated so many times that my mind inevitably wanders. And I don’t really know what else TO focus on to stop the wandering.

 

[Bill_G]

Now I am not a catholic, but I am a christian. I can only speak for myself on this, the reason I do not recite the Holy Rosary is because of a few things, but mainly it is because its something I never knew about and is something that seems foreign to me.

 

[roanoker]

Some of them do. I do, and I’m a protestant. The rosary is not a special gift only to certain believers.

 

[JRKH]

Now I am not a catholic, but I am a christian. I can only speak for myself on this, the reason I do not recite the Holy Rosary is because of a few things, but mainly it is because its something I never knew about and is something that seems foreign to me.

I’m curious about how the rosary seems “foreign” to you.
I mean this sincerely and am not trying to bait, or evangelize, or embarass.
How familiar are you with the rosary in concept and practice?

Peace
James

 

[CountryMom27]

As a former Protestant, it’s entirely because we didn’t believe in the consecration of saints and of praying to anyone other than God. So Hail Mary would not be an appropriate prayer for most Protestants.

Note that each Protestant religion is different slightly. I was UCC - United Church of Christ - and belonged to the Congregationalist church.

Repetitive and meditative prayers were always encouraged. Just not to Mary or the saints. In fact, when I first started meditating and practicing yoga, I would often use a mantra of “Christ Loves” to help focus my mind on prayer and Christ’s miracles. I still use it today, as a Catholic.

 

[Bill_G]

I’m curious about how the rosary seems “foreign” to you.
I mean this sincerely and am not trying to bait, or evangelize, or embarass.
How familiar are you with the rosary in concept and practice?

Peace
James

It seems foreign in the same way a language I have never heard seems foriegn me, growing up I never heard of it. I do not remember hearing of it until I was in my late 20s so its something I just have never done.

 

[Bill_G]

I’m curious about how the rosary seems “foreign” to you.
I mean this sincerely and am not trying to bait, or evangelize, or embarass.
How familiar are you with the rosary in concept and practice?

Peace
James

Sorry my last post I do not think I replied to everything.

I now know about it, I know it is a prayer and what the intent is, to help the one praying to focus on God. I just do not know the words or what the necklace has to do with it.

Also no offence was taken in anyway

 

[Hisalone]

Why won’t non-Catholic Christians recite the Holy Rosary?

Becaue I will not mock Jesus,

 

[JRKH]

Sorry my last post I do not think I replied to everything.

I now know about it, I know it is a prayer and what the intent is, to help the one praying to focus on God. I just do not know the words or what the necklace has to do with it.

Also no offence was taken in anyway

No offence taken. When I ask a frank question I hope for a frank answer. Thank you.

Should you care to know more about it there are many places to find out the prayers, and the mysteries. It is quite a nice devotion.

Peace
James

 

[ufamtobie]

Becaue I will not mock Jesus,

Hisalone are you saying that you won’t say the Rosary because you will mock Jesus?

Every part of the Rosary is from the Bible when one prays the Rosary one meditates on life of Jesus. The Rosary is the rememberance of Jesus Life here on earth.

The Arch Angel Gabriel said:** “Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee Blest art thou amongst women and Blessed is the fruit of thy womb.”**

Holy Mary (is not Mary holy) Mother of God (is not Mary the Mother of Jesus who is God)** Pray for us Sinners now and at the hour of our death **(hisalone can u pray for me and I for you now and at the hour of our death, Virgin Mary Can too) AMEN

Now tell me how can this be mocking Jesus, Jesus did say to remember him.

Ufamtobie

 

[Good_Fella]

Hi

I never read Jesus commanding about doing “Holy Rosary” from his own mouth or Jesus doing it himself; neither in the Quran nor in the NTBible; though both give accounts of Jesus life. Kindly quote from both respected Books for our benefit.

Thanks

Nor did Jesus command his disciples to write the New Testament.

Shayk Muhammad Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani said in Al-Silsilat al-Da’ eefah (1/110), where he quotes the Hadith, “What a good reminder is the subhah [masbaha (prayer beads)].”:

“In my view the meaning of this hadeeth is invalid for a number of reasons. First, the subah is bid’ ah and was not know at the time of the Prophet (SAW). It happened after that, so how could he (SAW) have encouraged his Sahabah to do something that was unknown to them?”

I believe Shayk Muhammad solves his own problem, although he doesn’t realize it. The prophet couldn’t have encouraged his Sahabah to use prayer beads because the faithful hadn’t yet adopted this practice. But it doesn’t necessarily follow that he would have discouraged them from using the beads in the future if he had known they would. One must consider the religious significance and the spiritual value of the beads in the prayer life of the faithful. If prayer beads lead one closer to God, an undeniable fact in my personal religious experience, then I fail to see how either Jesus or Mohammad would condemn his followers from using them.

Perhaps the apostles shouldn’t have written the New Testament, since it was something Jesus never commanded them to do, although our Lord knew that four of his twelve apostles would contribute to its composition. He saw nothing wrong with that.

Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them,“Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and a house divided against itself will fall. If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand?” {Luke 11, 17-18}

Pax vobiscum
Good Fella

 

[c659smith]

Becaue I will not mock Jesus,

Because most people have seen a rosary and have heard about the prayers but have never seen them or contemplated what they mean. Very much like most have seen a Catholic Church but do not have the guts to step in one or to seek the truth.

I know this sounds tough but is more the fact than not.

 

[thirdn6]

Because most people have seen a rosary and have heard about the prayers but have never seen them or contemplated what they mean. Very much like most have seen a Catholic Church but do not have the guts to step in one or to seek the truth.

I know this sounds tough but is more the fact than not.

I agree!
Sad thing is, they always find reasons why not to…

 

[JRKH]

In reference to the Original Post, I think that many Protestants see the Rosary as:

1. A “Catholic Thing” or
2. A Marian Devotion or
3. A mindless repetition of Prayers

Of course it is a “Catholic” devotion since that is where it has originated.

As to it being a Marian Devotion, that is a bit tougher. I have heard many here reflect on and point out the the purpose and direction of the prayers is meditation on the mysteries of Jesus Life and on the Faith. However we cannot deny that the rosary is inextricably tied to honoring our Blessed Mother. I can see some non-catholics having a problem with asking Mary to Pray for them 50 times. I can also see them having concerns about the last two Glorious Mysteries - the Assumption of the BVM and the Crowning of Mary Queen of Heaven.
That being said, I am happy to see the number of non catholics here who have indicated that they do pray the rosary.

As to the last item above, being a mindless repetition of prayers, any devotion can becomes so, but it need not. It depends on the heart and intention of the indivilual.

Peace
James

 

[Jimmy_B]

The phrase, “The family that prays together, stays together”, is in reference to the Rosary.

 

[Jimmy_B]

Catechism of the Catholic Church

**2708 **Meditation engages thought, imagination, emotion, and desire. This mobilization of faculties is necessary in order to deepen our convictions of faith, prompt the conversion of our heart, and strengthen our will to follow Christ. Christian prayer tries above all to meditate on the mysteries of Christ, as in lectio divina or the rosary. This form of prayerful reflection is of great value, but Christian prayer should go further: to the knowledge of the love of the Lord Jesus, to union with him.