Why won't non-Catholic Christians recite the Holy Rosary?

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Continuing with the medal theme, as a non-Catholic seeing people wearing the Miraculous Medal instead of a cross/crucifix makes me question who they have the personal relationship with.

Check out the Anglican Prayer Beads…
kingofpeace.org/prayerbeads.htm
kingofpeace.org/prayerbeads/trisagion.htm
If you bothered to examine a Miraculous Medal properly, it HAS a cross on it, as well as an image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I’ll leave it to you to examine one and find out exactly where 🙂

Which shows what we Catholics always say - there’s no dichotomy between having a relationship with Mary and having a relationship with Jesus - they are together now as they were when He was in her womb. She can only lead you closer to Him. Ad Jesu per Mariam (to Jesus through Mary) and God bless.
 
I am non-Catholic but I pray the Rosary. I find no issue in one doing so outside of the Catholic religion and when I do pray the Rosary I find a sense of peace I don’t normally have. To me it’s not about what’s right and what’s wrong but that it represents a collection of prayers centralized on a main idea. To some they find it comforting and to some they don’t find it necessary but in the end one must do what they feel is comfortable to them.
 
I have recently came home as i was baptised CofE went to a cofe school but was brought up going to a catholic church each week for mass as my grandparents were catholic.
I myself love the holy rosary but going to a cofe school was told not to as ‘we do not pray to mary and we do not believe that mary is the mother of the church’
Of course it was very confusing for me and i did what i felt natural to me which was to recite the holy rosary, but as a young child being taught one thing and then another it was very very confusing.
My children are both baptised catholic and i am so glad they are not being brought up with such conflicting messages they recite the holy rosary and are not told from anyone it is the wrong thing to do not like i was growing up.
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For the record:

I DO pray the Rosary every day. Have been doing since the start of Lent this year. Also the Divine Mercy Chaplet and (during Lent only, and only about once per week on Fridays) the Stations of the Cross. Prior to that, was doing some of these on-again, off-again.

The question I would have is, hey Jimmy: how come you don’t pray the Morning or Evening Prayer from the Book of Common Prayer?:newidea:

commonprayer.org/offices.cfm

Just kidding. Look there are a lot of forms of spirituality out there. About 15 years ago or a little longer I came across a number of Protestant Christians who were recommending that Protestants learn to pray the Psalms, as well as other parts of Scripture. Oddly enough, that is something that Catholics had been doing since the dawn of monasticism, and in fact was something that Jews probably have been doing since before the time of Christ.

I tried following those recommendations but found that any attempt to develop a systematic prayer life led to my accumulating a rather complicated set of books. After all I also wanted to read my Bible daily in a systematic fashion, and I wanted to do some devotional reading from something like Surgeon’s Morning and Evening, and I wanted to pray for missionaries in the 10/40 zones of the world (areas of the world least-evangelized by any Christian body, where the total number of Christians is sometimes as few as a few dozen or a few hundreds among millions of people–see the following: joshuaproject.net/10-40-window.php), and I wanted to pray for my pastor and for Christians generally, and I wanted to pray for my country and for all peoples of the world, etcetera and so forth.

There are ‘prayer guides’ for each of these, some as short as a few pages and some as long as a very large book. But if you juggled all of them together, you ended up with a rather substantial library of materials.

When I discovered the Book of Common Prayer, I found it met all of my needs for praying for a diverse variety of people and issues. (Catholics would find the same thing in something like the Breviary or the Shorter Christian Prayer). So the BCP has become my staple prayer system and it is how I came to be an Episcopalian in the Evangelical/conservative mode.

The only down side of the BCP is that you are praying from a book. You can’t do it while driving, you can’t do it while standing around waiting. I’m a security officer, and I stand around observing things for hours on end. I have lots of time on my hand. I can’t walk around with a Prayerbook in my hands–it would look weird and would distract me from my duties. BUT I can carry around a rosary, a mini-rosary, or a rosary ring and recite the Rosary to myself. I can do the Stations of the Cross–I practically have them memorized now. Etcetera. So I redeem my time while at work, partly by the continual effort to memorize Scripture, but also by periodically praying.

A bit off-topic, but it gives some idea of why some Protestants engage in a ‘Catholic’ practice such as praying the Rosary.

The BCP gives one just about everything one could want; & it is much **simpler to follow than the Liturgy of the Hours. As a bonus, the English is a great deal more memorable than anything published today (though the ICEL Mass has its moments). **​

 
For the record:

I DO pray the Rosary every day. Have been doing since the start of Lent this year. Also the Divine Mercy Chaplet and (during Lent only, and only about once per week on Fridays) the Stations of the Cross. Prior to that, was doing some of these on-again, off-again.

The question I would have is, hey Jimmy: how come you don’t pray the Morning or Evening Prayer from the Book of Common Prayer?:newidea:

commonprayer.org/offices.cfm

Just kidding. Look there are a lot of forms of spirituality out there. About 15 years ago or a little longer I came across a number of Protestant Christians who were recommending that Protestants learn to pray the Psalms, as well as other parts of Scripture. Oddly enough, that is something that Catholics had been doing since the dawn of monasticism, and in fact was something that Jews probably have been doing since before the time of Christ.

I tried following those recommendations but found that any attempt to develop a systematic prayer life led to my accumulating a rather complicated set of books. After all I also wanted to read my Bible daily in a systematic fashion, and I wanted to do some devotional reading from something like Surgeon’s Morning and Evening, and I wanted to pray for missionaries in the 10/40 zones of the world (areas of the world least-evangelized by any Christian body, where the total number of Christians is sometimes as few as a few dozen or a few hundreds among millions of people–see the following: joshuaproject.net/10-40-window.php), and I wanted to pray for my pastor and for Christians generally, and I wanted to pray for my country and for all peoples of the world, etcetera and so forth.

There are ‘prayer guides’ for each of these, some as short as a few pages and some as long as a very large book. But if you juggled all of them together, you ended up with a rather substantial library of materials.

When I discovered the Book of Common Prayer, I found it met all of my needs for praying for a diverse variety of people and issues. (Catholics would find the same thing in something like the Breviary or the Shorter Christian Prayer). So the BCP has become my staple prayer system and it is how I came to be an Episcopalian in the Evangelical/conservative mode.

The only own side of the BCP is that you are praying from a book. You can’t do it while driving, you can’t do it while standing around waiting. I’m a security officer, and I stand around observing things for hours on end. I have lots of time on my hand. I can’t walk around with a Prayerbook in my hands–it would look weird and would distract me from my duties. BUT I can carry around a rosary, a mini-rosary, or a rosary ring and recite the Rosary to myself. I can do the Stations of the Cross–I practically have them memorized now. Etcetera. So I redeem my time while at work, partly by the continual effort to memorize Scripture, but also by periodically praying.

A bit off-topic, but it gives some idea of why some Protestants engage in a ‘Catholic’ practice such as praying the Rosary.
Here’s a thought, fb, I know there are audio podcasts available of the LOTH (or at least Morning and Evening Prayer) so that one can pray along without needing a book, just one’s ipod. I wonder if there’s a similar service that provides podcasts of the BCP?
 
Why would you wear them?
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Hello** justaskin4**,

I wear them as an outward expression of my Christian, Catholic Faith and to keep Christ in my thoughts.

They are sacramental’s, sacramental’s lead us to the Sacraments, which lead us to Christ. When I put them on in the morning, for example, I usually take a moment to pray.

The Crucifix itself is a Christian sacramental created by the Catholic Church (early Christians) and used for the last two centuries as a reminder of Christ’s Sacrifice on the cross. Before Jesus was hung on a cross, the cross symbolized death and now the Crucifix symbolizes life. Christian symbols have always been used in Christianity and the rejection of Christian symbols is a fairly recent development in some Christian denominations.

I hope this helps.

Peace 🙂
 
Why would you wear them?
People wear all kinds of things to remind themselves of their faith. Lockets with photos of loved ones, etcetera. I know some soldiers who are Protestant Pentecostals who wear blessed ‘handkerchiefs’ (actually miniature cloths) in little containers. Many many Protestants wear ‘WWJD’ jewelry or similar items to remind themselves of their faith. Some carry holy oil or even blessed water. A visit to any Protestant bookstore will reveal all kinds of devotional kitsch designed to be clipped to sun visors, hooked onto bookbags or purses, worn on keyrings, or carried in one’s pockets. Thomas Howard pointed out years ago that as physical beings we tend to want physical items to remind us of things dear to us. See his book “Evangelical Is Not Enough” for a fuller elaboration.

I have wallet-sized pictures of paintings done by Thomas Kincaid and other contemporary painters. A Roman Catholic may have similar wallet-sized ‘holy cards’ of Catholic Saints. I carry a miniature vial of scented olive oil on my keychain. A Catholic might well do the same thing. I wear a cross; a Catholic likely as not will wear a crucifix.

Where there is not a real and substantive difference on a subject, why make an issue of it?
 
Here’s a thought, fb, I know there are audio podcasts available of the LOTH (or at least Morning and Evening Prayer) so that one can pray along without needing a book, just one’s ipod. I wonder if there’s a similar service that provides podcasts of the BCP?
What is “LOTH”?

In any case, to listen to a ‘podcast’ I think one needs a ‘pod’ of some kind. I’m still fighting tooth-and-nail to keep us in the Cassette Age and am only slowly being dragged against my will into the DVD/CD Age. I drive my daughter wacko because I can’t keep straight which of those two provides audio-visual entertainment and which provides audio only. They look exactly the same to me. So far as I’m concerned, nobody has invented anything really worthwhile since about 1940 or so, unless you count a handful of medical advances such as immunizations. Did the world really need the Internet? Or even FM radio?

In any case, as a security officer I can’t walk around wearing some 21st-century equivalent of a Walkman. On many jobsites, even cell phones are prohibited.

To the best of my knowledge the BCP is not available as an audio recording. If it were, it would probably be based on the 1979 BCP, which is as loathsome to me as the Novus Ordo Mass is to a Pope Pius XIIth Traditionalist. Long story which would distract from this thread. Suffice it to say that when Catholics speak of the ‘TLM’ they are referring to the ‘Traditional Latin Mass’; when Anglicans use the same acronym they are referring to the ‘Traditional Language Movement’.
 
Agnos Theist, “Speaking from experience, I very much disagree. 🙂
As a kid, the rosary thought me how boring and pointless religion can be. And I know its not just me. My cousins & siblings tried to avoid it as well. :D

I agree that many children do not understand because their parents do not understand. That is why parents are the most important part of this world, they form their children, and thus form the future.
I am the eldest of six children,
Me 18, Lauren 17, Gretchen 15, Hans 13, Ian 11, Emily 7
While sometimes we don’t want to say the rosary at night because we are tired, or because we were in the middle of doing something when our parents call us for rosary, we still pray. Through that we learn that no matter what else is going on in our life we cannot forget God, God is most important. Then during the rosary, we each take a turn leading a decade, and the child who is closest to First Holy Communion age leads the Apostle’s creed so that they can learn it well. When we introduce the decade, my parents require that we explain what the name means, so we would say for example:
The First Joyful mystery, the Assumption, Mary accepts God’s plan and becomes the mother of Jesus.
Every explanation is different, every person gives their individual idea of what they want to focus on, and if they are in error, my parents gently correct them. In this way it is a great lesson in the important aspects of Christ’s life. Sometimes we read from a little book that gives advice on what to focus on during each decade. That is useful, not only for learning a different perspective, but also it helps children learn how to read aloud.
We always kneel up during the rosary. It is hard sometimes, but my mom always reminds us to look at the crucifix and see that Christ suffered so greatly for us, surely we can kneel up for 20min.
The rosary is a lesson, a lesson for children, and it can be an equally important lesson to adults.
I have noticed as I have grown older that the rosary becomes a background, a supportive reminder so that I can think of other things and ask God. I know the rosary words so well, that when I am praying the Hail Marys, I am not always thinking about the words I am saying or even the mystery of the decade, but sometimes of an earlier decade that really hit me and that I suddenly realized something about. It is like listening to Gregorian Chant, you don’t need to know what they are saying, you don’t need to sing along, you don’t need to know the tune, all you need to know is that it is prayerful and then it leads your thoughts to God.
When I pray the rosary it is a reminder to me that my thoughts for those twenty minutes should be only of God. I should not think about school, or food, or anything else except God. He is my sole thought. And I think of him through Our Lady. She leads me to him as any mother leads her children to their father.
Someone in this thread said that they pray to the Father through the Son, well, I pray to the triune through Our Lady, asking her intercession.
If you notice, every prayer to Our Lady references no great deed of hers, but rather of her son. Even the mysteries of the rosary all have to do with Christ. My dad made a rule for my family saying that for every introduction to the decades, we must use the name Jesus. So the Annunciation would be the angel Gabriel announcing to Mary that she would be the Mother of Jesus. etc…
Sorry for rambling. I hope you understand.

May the Holy Ghost inspire my words so that they inspire you.
 
LOTH = Liturgy of the Hours.
Because I do not pray to anyone else but God, and I do not practise necromancy (typo?) by invoking the dead - even if it is as a plea for intercession. To ask a living, breathing fellow Christian to pray for you can NOT compare to asking a dead person. The latter is necromancy, the first is not.
Christ’s own words…God is God of the Living, not the dead. Mary and the saints in heaven are NOT dead, but quite alive in Christ.

Praying the rosary is NOT necessary…I rarely do so…I know priests who rarely do so…but it’s a fine devotion if you have it.
 
I may generally ask fellow believers to pray with me. But that is a far cry from formal petition to a particular departed saint as though they were some good luck charm exercising greater ability in one area of need than others.
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Well now, I did not say any use of a prayer in any degree of repetition was vain. However,** if to pray a prayer as assigned, and in specific quantities specified, is not vain repetition then it’s pretty near close enough that I can’t tell the difference.** I would rather avoid it, than err in the use of it.
Right there speaks a man who does not understand the rosary.

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