Why would a Roman Catholic become Orthodox?

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On one of the photos show children dancing at Mass.

This is what the US Bishop says:

The Bishops have expressly prohibited any and all forms of dancing in the Liturgy.

NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS (BISHOPS’ COMMITTEE on the LITURGY) NEWSLETTER. APRIL/MAY 1982.
“FROM THESE DIRECTIVES, from the NATIONAL CONFERENCE of CATHOLIC BISHOPS, all dancing, (ballet, children’s gesture as dancing, the clown liturgy) are not permitted to be 'introduced into liturgical celebrations of any kind whatever.’”

ourladyswarriors.org/articles/badliturgy.htm
 
Those are written in German… I been noticing EO will go at length to put out the many Liturgical Abuse. Don’t get me wrong. You have your own share of disobedient sheeps.
God bless!

They are not disobedient sheeps ! Like I have written I can send u fotos with the Pope and many Biishops do u realy want that I post ? In the above fotos are catholic religon teachers.

It is here the normal form of Mass !

We have also disobedient sheep but would an orthodox priest accept such he would be thrown out by the people !

In CHRIST
 
God bless!

They are not disobedient sheeps ! Like I have written I can send u fotos with the Pope and many Biishops do u realy want that I post ? In the above fotos are catholic religon teachers.

It is here the normal form of Mass !

We have also disobedient sheep but would an orthodox priest accept such he would be thrown out by the people !

In CHRIST
A photo can be manipulated and distorted. Feel free to show the images.

Those photos you have show does constitute Liturgical Abuses. You have to show me in writing to vertify if they are Legal. So far you have not provided that.
 
God bless!

They are not disobedient sheeps ! Like I have written I can send u fotos with the Pope and many Biishops do u realy want that I post ? In the above fotos are catholic religon teachers.

It is here the normal form of Mass !

We have also disobedient sheep but would an orthodox priest accept such he would be thrown out by the people !

In CHRIST
According to you they aren’t Abuses. According to Code of Canon Law, they are. According to GIRM they are, and these Are OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Sorry, my misguided Eastern Orthodox friend, regardless of what you claim them to be Not-Liturgical Abuses. They are.
 
So is the new calender : for me it is uncanonical and many many orthodox Saints and Elders were against the change !
Hello Bogoljub:
Thanks for your explanation. It looks like you are an Old Calendar Orthodox. There is an Old Calendar Orthodox Church nearby in this area and the services are partly in Greek. And the women all (all) wear long dresses and have their heads covered during services. In fact, there is a big sign before entering the Church area and a basket available with the headcoverings in case a lady has forgotten to bring one. And there are rules for men also. The service is beautiful and most of the people are wonderful (except for one or two who don’t like Catholics like me). Anyway, I had occasion to attend a Greek Orthodox Church nearby and the priest did not know anyting about this Old Calendar Church. For him, it was a completely different Church (uncanonical ?) and not in union with the regular (great majority new calendar) Orthodox Churches. So in my experience as a RC, I would say that there is some analogy between the SSPX Catholic Church and the Old Calendar Orthodox Church?
And some of the monks in Greece are having problems with the EP?

Anyway, just some observations on my part.
Thanks.
 
A photo can be manipulated and distorted. Feel free to show the images.

Those photos you have show does constitute Liturgical Abuses. You have to show me in writing to vertify if they are Legal. So far you have not provided that.
God bless!

When it is not legal when Bishops with the Pope are celebrating ?

When all catholic parishes are celebrating this way u think this is not legal - please forgive but this is funny - really !

In CHRIST

Please the fotos are not disorted - they are from rc paishes ! They do not feel that there is any thing wrong !
 
Now could you provide me with the specific Papal or council documents that authorize these things you just described?
Pope Paul VI authorised the New Mass, and it was seen to have a certain flexibility. Even the Pope himself (John Paul II) was seen offering a Mass in New Guinea which has been criticised.
 
I appreciate your attempts to defend Holy Orthodoxy. However, the Pope does not support much of what you have mentioned. In fact, these abuses are direct violations of Latin liturgical law and shouldn’t be used as representative of what the Roman Catholic Church officially supports. It might be helpful if you concentrate on the official changes that occurred in the Roman Mass after Vatican II. These reforms were very far-reaching and discussions of their merits would prove very interesting and would help many of our Roman Catholic friends to re-discover the meaning and importance of retaining Tradition in their expression of Faith.

God bless,

Adam
We hear that these are violations or abuse? But they are continuing with freedom to do so, and who has ever been excommunicated because they have celebrated a monkey Mass, a clown Mass, a Peter Paul and Mary Mass, a rock Mass, a ballet dancer Mass, a mariachi band Mass, a gay Mass, a Halloween Mass, a video slide show Mass, a cowboy Mass, a native American Indian Mass?
 
A photo can be manipulated and distorted. Feel free to show the images.

Those photos you have show does constitute Liturgical Abuses. You have to show me in writing to vertify if they are Legal. So far you have not provided that.
A Pope’s Mass is legal and there have been pictures circulated concerning it. If these things are not legal, how come they are continuing, how come there are pictures and videos on the internet showing many such, and how come no one has been excommunicated for celebrating in this fashion?
 
Hello Bogoljub:
Thanks for your explanation. It looks like you are an Old Calendar Orthodox. There is an Old Calendar Orthodox Church nearby in this area and the services are partly in Greek. And the women all (all) wear long dresses and have their heads covered during services. In fact, there is a big sign before entering the Church area and a basket available with the headcoverings in case a lady has forgotten to bring one. And there are rules for men also. The service is beautiful and most of the people are wonderful (except for one or two who don’t like Catholics like me). Anyway, I had occasion to attend a Greek Orthodox Church nearby and the priest did not know anyting about this Old Calendar Church. For him, it was a completely different Church (uncanonical ?) and not in union with the regular (great majority new calendar) Orthodox Churches. So in my experience as a RC, I would say that there is some analogy between the SSPX Catholic Church and the Old Calendar Orthodox Church?
And some of the monks in Greece are having problems with the EP?

Anyway, just some observations on my part.
Thanks.
God bless u !

No I am not an old calendarian. I am a member of the russian orthodox church abroad. But the roca was and I think is in communion with some old calendarians. Please notice that there are many in new calender church who are against the change !

The new calender is uncanonical and God worked many signs in greece, Jerusalem and other countries…

For example blessed ( Saint) Elder Philotheos Zervakos he was a member of the new calender church but never accepted and he wrote letters and pamphlets against the calender. He will be gloriified soon. He worked many miracles !

Eldress Myrtidiotissa; She saw the Theotokos daily and the Theotokos told her go with the old calender it is the right !

In the Valaam monastery a monk had a vision of the Theotokos and she said do not go with the new, go with the calender of the Fathers, the old one !

We have many confessors of the old calender : St, Glicherie of Romania , St. John the romanian ( he was complete incorrupt even his shoes and clothes and very fragrant)

St. John of Shanghai was against the calender change, the great Saint of Athens Papa Nicholas Planas the miracle worker, and many other greek Saints and Elders like St. Ieronymus and also the monks of Mount Athos protested. Over Athens the Cross appeared and was seen by thousends on the old calender feast of the elevation of the cross.

The Patriarchate of Jerusalem changed the calender but returned after some signs. The holy fire did not appear.

I saw a crown of thorns blooming every year on the old calender feast of the elevation of the cross - only this day !

Most all of the first leaders of the old calendarians are great Saints and their bodys are incorrupt and fragrant. So Archbishop Chrysostom of Florina he is fragrant, also I think Bishop Matthew.

We also have soo many prophecies in wich it is exactly explained what will happen ! Only a few will be orthodox and stay in this faith - the enemy is working and fighting without ceasing against the church !

U know how Patriarch Meletios died ? He died of a bad illness and smelled horrible- it is said that he said : Oh I am a sinner I divided the church !

Blessed Seraphim of Platina also wrote much about the suffering orthodoxy and that not everything is orthodox what is called orthodox !

In CHRIST

May God keep us in His Grace and protect us !
 
We hear that these are violations or abuse? But they are continuing with freedom to do so, and who has ever been excommunicated because they have celebrated a monkey Mass, a clown Mass, a Peter Paul and Mary Mass, a rock Mass, a ballet dancer Mass, a mariachi band Mass, a gay Mass, a Halloween Mass, a video slide show Mass, a cowboy Mass, a native American Indian Mass?
God bless!

You are absolut true !! I do not want to hurt anyone - please believe me, I am only shocked and feel bad. Like I have written they are not abuses - it is the way here the Mass is celebrated official ( but I think Pope Benedict would also like to stop but if he has the power to do ?)

I have fotos with the Pope during a youth Mass when in front of the altar people are performing african dances !

I could post u some blaspemious depictings of the Theotokos, modern art in church, or a priest in a designer Robe during mass, designed with animal blood and other things…all with the blessing of th Bishop !

In CHRIST

Let me tell u again they are not abuses they are officiall celebration of Mass !
 
God bless!

You are absolut true !! I do not want to hurt anyone - please believe me, I am only shocked and feel bad. Like I have written they are not abuses - it is the way here the Mass is celebrated official ( but I think Pope Benedict would also like to stop but if he has the power to do ?)

I have fotos with the Pope during a youth Mass when in front of the altar people are performing african dances !

I could post u some blaspemious depictings of the Theotokos, modern art in church, or a priest in a designer Robe during mass, designed with animal blood and other things…all with the blessing of th Bishop !

In CHRIST

Let me tell u again they are not abuses they are officiall celebration of Mass !
 
Let me tell u again they are not abuses they are officiall celebration of Mass !
The “liturgical abuses” are continuing. But why are they so frequent in the RC Church today and so infrequent in the EO Church?
 
I suggest to you Upon this Rock and Jesus, Peter and the Keys.
I told you I allready read those versus. However You did not fully read what I wrote? In the book “Two Paths” the author talks about these versus. And uses document that show quotations of the Ancient fathers and how they interpreted these parts of scripture.

Thanks,
Stathios
 
A Pope’s Mass is legal and there have been pictures circulated concerning it. If these things are not legal, how come they are continuing, how come there are pictures and videos on the internet showing many such, and how come no one has been excommunicated for celebrating in this fashion?
Liturgical abuses are under the authority of the Local Bishop. If however, no action is taken, the laity itself is to blame for it is their duty to** report Liturgical Abuses to the higher authority**. First they** need to be address with charity to the priest who committed the abuse. Second, if the priest does not adhere. You bring it up to the diocese**. If the diocese does not listen, you can contact the Congregation of Divine Liturgy and Worship.

The Pope is well aware of this, and this is often addressed in the annual Synod.

If you actually taken the time to check the issue of Liturgical Abuses use the Search engine in Catholic Answers Forum. The Apologist Forum, where you can post Q&A have resources for the laity to report them properly.

Actually, there was a priest who was relieved of his duty because he allowed an Non-Catholic priest part take in the Mass. The Archbishop from Baltimore remove priest from the liturgy.

See article: baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.md.ci.priest09nov09,0,5298429.story

The problem I see with the widespread abuse is the lack of the laity to take proper action. You need to report it. The abuses you see the bojo posted is no different. Apparently, someone is not doing the reporting.

Catholics ought to know what their rights are.
 
I told you I allready read those versus. However You did not fully read what I wrote? In the book “Two Paths” the author talks about these versus. And uses document that show quotations of the Ancient fathers and how they interpreted these parts of scripture.

Thanks,
Stathios
Those were actually 2 books I suggested to you to read. Upon This Rock by Steve Ray and Jesus, Peter & the Keys. (not sure the author)
 
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