Why would a straight person leave the Catholic Church over our teaching on gay marriage?

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Who would ban them from the church.
I am not sure what you mean by this, but the Catholic teaching is that they excommunicated themselves.
What would the bannable offense be?
Heresy is an ex latae sententiae condition. the action in itself triggers the excommunication.
Presenting themselves as a couple isn’t against Church teaching.
In what way do you think not?
One would have to have solid and direct knowledge of what they do behind closed doors to know if they were living sinfully, according the the Church.
No. Presenting themselves as a “couple” is sufficient. Coupling means they are not living together as siblings.
I don’t see the clergy at my local Catholic church telling a couple (like the one in my scenario) that they can’t attend as a couple and to knock off the hand–holding or else they aren’t welcome to attend.
I have known many priests who fail to address some egregious situations. It does not mean it is ok to commit the egregious acts. Pretending one accepts all that the Church believes and teaches when one does not is an egregious act.
The point I was trying to make is that the day will come when gay couples will feel comfortable being active members in the Church, while not hiding the fact that they are gay or that they are a couple. I am talking about openly gay couples.
This has already happened, and happens in parishes that are not orthodox in faith and practice.

One parish in my archdiocese was closed by the Bishop and all the clergy reassigned for this, and other departures from the faith.
One would hope they choose not to receive communion, because they won’t be in full communion with the church unless they believe all of the Church’s teachings, of course. But that is no different than any other sinner who is in the same boat, just with different issues.
This is my greatest beef with all this bigotry and prejudice. There is not difference whether the sinner is homosexual, heterosexual, or asexual! A person who receives communion in a state of grave sin is a problem no matter what it is. This is what needs to be addressed.
Losing members of the flock is “purification?”
Apparently from @anon10271182 point of view. Jesus going after the lost sheep comes to mind. Why didn’t He just say "oh, well, that was a rebellious sheep anyway, a nuisance and might infect the flock by being wayward, just let it go off a cliff or get swept away in the river, that way the flock will be more “pure”.
 
No. Presenting themselves as a “couple” is sufficient. Coupling means they are not living together as siblings.
I disagree. A couple can be a couple without having sex. I believe this is what the Church encourages for non-married heterosexual couples.
 
Oh, I don’t equate myself to Jesus in that (or any) passage of Scripture… I’m just one of the sheep, constantly trying to hear his voice above the infernal din.
 
Then I will pray for their deliverance from that monstrous and diabolical lie.
 
I’m not concerned about being “safe” at Church other than the usual terrorist fears everybody should have in big crowds today.

You don’t attend to Church, stating as you have that you are agnostic but originally raised Catholic, but yet you say, “I don’t see the clergy telling a couple (like the one in my scenario) that they can’t attend as a couple and to knock off the handholding or else they aren’t welcome to attend.”

What if the clergy did tell them to knock it off? Are you okay with the Church exercising that authority? I would encourage the priest to do just that.
 
“God” led you to renounce the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic faith?" Guess again.That wasn’t God.
 
“God” led you to renounce the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic faith?" Guess again.That wasn’t God.
Certainly seemed like Him. I was praying in the cathedral and it’s been the best experience of my spiritual life. 💙
 
I would hope the priest would do just that, and do so immediately if there were children present.
 
Definitely. If they obstinately choose to not follow the Church’s teachings until death, they won’t get to heaven anyhow. What difference will all that pussyfooting around do that others are advocating?

Purify away. And if I’m purified out of the Church, it’s by my own doing.
 
Doesn’t matter where it happened. God doesn’t lead people into heresy or apostasy.
 
Are you replying to me? Because I don’t recall talking about public affection.
 
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He might have thought the man you stood beside was your brother or father or that you were from an Arab country.
 
At last. A voice of reason! And we’re not talking about people who have simply fallen into error here, through ignorance. We’re talking about those who deliberately, obstinately and persistently reject Church teaching. People who know exactly what the dogmatic Church teaching is but agitate against it.
 
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