Why would a straight person leave the Catholic Church over our teaching on gay marriage?

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anon10271182 said:
Your repeated question is irrelevant. Same sex “marriage” is a diabolical, grotesque parody of Holy Matrimony.
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Your inability to answer a simple question ruins any point you may have.

And again; marriage is older than matrimony. So I’m afraid it can’t parody something it’s older than.
 
Amen. Satan’s human puppets will fail and ultimately, that prince of evil will fail too.
 
A while back, someone asked for an example of anti-gay rhetoric and bias on CAF.
I wish I could remember who it was and tag them in this thread, as it is a perfect example.

Not a whole lot of love in this thread, sad to say. :roll_eyes:
 
Lol, I just noticed the conspiracy aspect of this post. I obviously need to contract the LGBT+ folks and get paid! Here I am pointing out that people deserve kindness for free!
 
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That may be your agenda and that’s what the powers-that- be want you to think. What harm is the little gay couple doing down the street? They are enjoying their life like the next couple.

Meanwhile a revolution is taking place.
 
Lara said:
That may be your agenda and that’s what the powers-that- be want you to think. What harm is the little gay couple doing down the street? They are enjoying their life like the next couple.

Meanwhile a revolution is taking place.
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That revolution is giving people rights. I’m a teacher and this stuff is important.
 
I believe the revolution may very well be that the nice gay couple down the street, and many more they know, are going to flood your church and the rest of the churches each sunday. They are going to grace you with their prescence and they aren’t going to be shy about letting everyone know they are a couple and that they are gay. How is that going to feel to you then? Every Sunday, week after week. They may even take communion right in front of your very eyes. Week in and week out. You will have to shake hands with them (or not) at the handshake of peace. They will volunteer and work together as a couple to make your parish stronger.

I don’t know what will happen to the Church when this happens. Your posts convey that you don’t think or feel very charitably about this sub-section of human beings. This is when things will get interesting.
 
When Jesus said go and sin no more that was just as pastoral and loving as when He said neither do I condemn you.

He gave us the Spiritual Works of Mercy as well as the Corporal Works of Mercy.
 
Giving “rights” to one group and stealing rights from religious groups.

That’s one part of the agenda: to get rid of religious influence in all public spheres (even the word God in “O Canada”)

to take away our conscience rights (things like doctors being forced to refer for abortion against their conscience and making them complicit in sin)

to disallow religious people from following God’s word (things like forcing photographers to photograph the abomination of gay “marriage”, against their better judgement, desire, and religious beliefs.)

Sorry but the utopia you are envisioning will be hell for many people.
 
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Calling sin a sin provokes ad hominems around here. I just flag 'em and let the moderators deal with it.
 
Yes. The denial that there is any agenda, even infecting the Catholic Church, is laughably disingenuous.
 
I suppose I tend to assume ignorance rather than malice (and I see such refusal as malice). Plus I guess I’m used to when students refuse to answer a question on class it’s usually because they don’t know.
 
Well it’s understandable when dealing with those that are unaware of the Truth or reject Truth. We know that a key mission given to the Catholic Church by Christ is the salvation of souls. The identification and condemnation of sin is essential in carrying out that mission.
 
Lara said:
Giving “rights” to one group and stealing rights from religious groups.

That’s one part of the agenda: to get rid of religious influence in all public spheres (even the word God in “O Canada”)

to take away our conscience rights (things like doctors being forced to refer for abortion against their conscience and making them complicit in sin)

to disallow religious people from following God’s word (things like forcing photographers to photograph the abomination of gay “marriage”, against their better judgement, desire, and religious beliefs.)

Sorry but the utopia you are envisioning will be hell for many people.
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I’ve lost no rights. I don’t recall the Bible weighing in on cakes or photos, was it near the part where Christ ate with tax collectors and prostitutes?
 
Let me clear some of your Utopian mist. I don’t mind if every gay stood in Church beside me, but it would have to be the real Church, not one whose message has been adulterated with parts of the Bible torn out. That’s the one they want preached.

They can never take Communion in an honest way if they persist in believing fornication is not fornication.

And look at the items I posted as the greater agenda with Alex.
 
I think I already have two clear examples of the agenda.

So, my church will continue marrying people in our marriage ceremony. 😊
 
Lara said:
You earlier pointed out that there seems to be significant bigotry and prejudice about this minority population. You wrote this as if it’s a bit of a mystery to you, as if to say people should place the sexual sins of a gay couple on par with the sexual sins of straights and then be patient. What the heck? We’re all sinners.
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I am not mystified. I was just making an observation. It is not I who has placed all sins on a par, it is God (unless you do not accept the New Testament as the Word of God).

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.

I do not know what you mean by “be patient”, except that it is one of the fruits of the Spirit that we are to embody. St. Paul writes:
1 Timothy 1:16 " but I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience for an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life."

If God is patient and merciful toward us, then who are we to be impatient with others?

It makes no sense for a Catholic to single out the sins of non-Catholics as somehow “worse”. The sins committed by Catholics, who have the fullness of Truth, are much more concerning.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

Judgment begins with the household of God. We would do well to clean up our own act, so that we are in a better position to take the log out of the eye of others.
Lara said:
If that’s all it took, I’d agree with you. But as a group, the LGBT have an agenda that is well-thought out and executed with precision. That is the part that gets us rightfully angry. Anger in itself is not a sin.
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There is definitely an agenda, one you summarized well. No, anger itself is not a sin, but anger does not accomplish the righteousness of God, either.
Lara said:
Their agenda isn’t even known by all of them and certainly not by many Catholics. I wouldn’t be surprised if LGBT-supporting people are paid to hijack these threads on CAF.
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That sounds a bit paranoid.
Lara said:
Thanks for personalizing Corinthians for me but it sounds better in the original. Love begins with truth. How can it “rejoice with the truth” if that truth is unknown to so many?
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You are welcome. Someone did it once for me, and I have found it helpful. I put it on the fridge to remind me.

We can rejoice in the Truth because we are in Christ, and as such, cannot be sucked into the insidious agenda. By His grace, we are saved through faith. It is rejoicing in that Truth that draws people to Him.
 
Absolutely. The Roman Catholic Church will never celebrate same sex “marriage.” Any Catholic who believes the Church should commit such a sacrilege should leave. I don’t care how many do; the Church needs such purification.
 
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