Will America become socialist now that Biden has basically won?

  • Thread starter Thread starter johnz123
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
johnz123 said:
Will America become socialist under the Biden Harris administration? What do you think?
Click to expand...
I started laying plans for a fortification on an undisclosed piece of property. No cell phone towers, no google, no trace contacting, no doubts about the future. It may take more than four years to complete, but it’s never too late to start planning for the socialist apocalypse.
 
I think it will, once Harris is in place. For myself, I’ll get worried when they start clamping down on our religious liberties and our ability to protect ourselves from such persecution.
 
I don’t know about socialist, but the administration will certainly be more anti-Catholic, more restrictive of religious liberty and free speech, and will double down on promotion of abortion on demand. More bad news for unborn babies.
 
Whether or not the country becomes more socialist is only a part due to the incipient presidency of Harris. There are multiple large cities which have a majority of Democrats in charge - mayor, council; there are a number of states with one or more large cities with that combination, and steps some of them seem to be taking - defunding the police being one of the major ones - matters are going to become dicey.

If one presumes that the riots and the agitation currently being experienced in major cities is simply going to disappear, then one has not been paying attention to what the folks behind the riots have been saying. The are virulently anti-Trump, but that is by no means the end of their rhetoric.

It has been said repeatedly by people far wiser than I that all it takes to turn a country is 1% of the population as activists and an additional 10% who support them. Whether we have reached to tipping point of that 11% is definitely not clear. The liberal news media still insists in calling rioters “protestors”, A recent review of the arrest records, in Seattle, as an example, shows that those arrested are almost all white, and the greater majority are not from Seattle.

If the Senate remains in the control of Republicans, legislation will be short-stopped if it is too far out of the mainstream (there are still moderate Democrats, although the microphone was dominated by leftist to far leftist members the last 4 years). But that is only the matter of federal legislation. What gets done in various states is another matter.

The post mortem analysis going on in the House appears to support the position that the electorate is less than enamored with losing their private health insurance and having it replaced with a variation of the Veterans Administration medical fiasco. As to “free college” no one has been able to demonstrate support, let alone come up with any real-world cost. And the New Green Deal, while gaining support from the left wing of the environmentalists and giving them fevered dreams is simply a pipe dream without any consideration of the cost or the consequences of mandating the near impossible. California, a hotbed of Green dreaming, is seeing an out-migration of population and can’t control its budgeting, let alone collect enough to pay the current bills.

Already there are comments within the Democratic intelligentsia that they are looking at a 10 year hiatus on the federal level. There projections as to a blue landslide slid down the other side of the hill, and pretty much filed both on the federal level (the House appears to have cut the margin the Dems held, the Senate most certainly failed to have a major change, and state flips flopped.

And yet we have the agitators and the cities who cannot admit the rioters are not “mostly peaceful protestors”.

So we live out the old Chinese curse: “You should live in interesting times”.
 
It won’t matter if we go socialist or not. The US Federal debt is somewhere around $27 trillion dollars. So, we’ll not be able to pay off our debt and the US dollar will become worth less and less. We cannot afford the programs we already have. Any new ones will just drive us further in the red.
 
Any Presidential administration is hamstringed when they don’t have the Senate. And don’t forget the midterm elections.
 
Last edited:
I think you are probably right. It used to be said that we need not worry about the debt because we can grow our way out of it. But that’s no longer the case. In addition we can expect a covid induced recession or depression.
 
It has started already with the attack on marriage and the family…

http://www.vatican.va/content/leo-x...iii_enc_28121878_quod-apostolici-muneris.html
  1. Even family life itself, which is the cornerstone of all society and government, necessarily feels and experiences the salutary power of the Church, which redounds to the right ordering and preservation of every State and kingdom. For you know, venerable brethren, that the foundation of this society rests first of all in the indissoluble union of man and wife according to the necessity of natural law, and is completed in the mutual rights and duties of parents and children, masters and servants. You know also that the doctrines of socialism strive almost completely to dissolve this union; since, that stability which is imparted to it by religious wedlock being lost, it follows that the power of the father over his own children, and the duties of the children toward their parents, must be greatly weakened. But the Church, on the contrary, teaches that “marriage, honorable in all,”(13) which God himself instituted in the very beginning of the world, and made indissoluble for the propagation and preservation of the human species, has become still more binding and more holy through Christ, who raised it to the dignity of a sacrament, and chose to use it as the figure of His own union with the Church.
Click to expand...
 
StudentMI said:
40.png
johnz123:
Well first it starts with medicare for all, then maybe free college tuition, then other things.
Click to expand...
So a Catholic can be a socialist? Because what you just cited are things a Catholic can be in favor of.
Click to expand...
Americans are very binary. Publicly maintained road systems? Socialism. There’s no nuance. Socialism isn’t an economic model here. Anything that’s publicly funded is socialism. Medicare is socialism. A standing, national military is socialism. And so on.
 
Last edited:
So we go from Trump to China just like that? Come on, man.
 
Last edited:
Probably Catholic schools will be forced to accept so called ‘homosexual marriage’ and gender ideology. Of course, some ‘catholic’ schools will welcome it. Some might think, ‘well I will just homeschool then’…think again, the left will go after that too.

And I’m guessing vouchers for the poor to attend private schools will be bye bye.
 
Last edited:
I guess the the Kavanaugh persecution and Harris’s prosecution of pro life activists in California is easily forgotten.
 
johnz123 said:
Well first it starts with medicare for all, then maybe free college tuition, then other things.
Click to expand...
Certainly it is shocking to think that a community might join together to ensure that all its members could access health care!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top