Witnesses tell FBI that George Zimmerman is no racist

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Why keep this thread going??? When non-facts are presented in the media as fact and the majority now believe that Zimmerman made all this up based on these non-facts…there appears to me to be an injustice to an individual for a higher cause…money. All the non-facts are being presented by the people who gain the most from a trial…civil rights lawyers…but it HAS to get to a trial in order for them to make this ton of money against the “deep pockets”, the tax paying citizens. I can’t imagine what his farce (court proceedings) is costing them now. And this guy, George Zimmerman, is just a unsuspecting pawn to exploit an unfortunate situation.
 
kelvinf said:
Does height mean power? And he was just slightly taller than Zimmerman–by about 10 cm.
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About as much as age.

Perhaps those that are trying to portray Trayvon as a ‘child’ that was not threatening should think about the deception that it is.
 
seekerz said:
You never got hurt in a fight? Strange…I have. Nobody was trying to kill me either.
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I never got into one. Except the schoolyard scuffles many decades ago.

If someone is trying to land blows on me, they are a threat to my life.
And I WILL defend myself as needed to remove that threat.

And that is why I make certain physical violence does not start.
 
seekerz said:
The responding officers saw some injuries but did not see those injuries being inflicted. A doctor on the other hand is capable of saying whether they were consistent with being punched or bashed or whatever. Very convenient that such an examination of whatever fresh injuries existed that night was refused.
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So you believe that fresh blood is not indicative of a fresh injury?
 
kelvinf said:
Did the law enforcement folks witness the events? How can they charge him with 2nd degree murder? 😉
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The Police Department did not charge him with anything…the original prosecutor didn’t either, lacking evidence that he didn’t act in self defense…it was then turned over to an appointed prosecutor who with a massive amount of “evidence”…(I havn’t seen any yet…and even the so called girlfriend “the star witness” says the kid made it back to “his father’s house”…so that meant the kid had to turn around)…based on media hype…trumped up a charge of 2nd degree murder. The so called “murder” occurred about 20 seconds before the police arrived…Yeh, I guess that gave George PLENTY of time to make something up.
 
kelvinf said:
Did the law enforcement folks witness the events? How can they charge him with 2nd degree murder? 😉
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Law enforcement found insufficient evidence.

The special prosecuter assigned to the case has placed these accusations.
 
vz71 said:
Law enforcement found insufficient evidence.

The special prosecuter assigned to the case has placed these accusations.
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vz71 said:
Generally when people refer to law enforcement, they refer to the police officers.
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Your first statement above wasn’t accurate. It might be common to mostly call police officers law enforcement, but that doesn’t mean that the prosecutor isn’t law enforcement.

So the police, investigators…, prosecutor found sufficient evidence to charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder. The special prosecutor claimed that the police were still investigating this case before she was appointed.
 
kelvinf said:
So you think the height of Trayvon Martin had a role to play in this and that Zimmerman, an adult and Trayvon, a teenager means nothing?
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I believe that at a point, age is only one consideration.

You could compare an 18 year old to a 17 year old and still say an adult and a teenager. They could literally be a day in age apart and one could be considered a teen and another an adult.

So, yes, the height and athletic ability should be considered. Otherwise you would consider a 17 year old football player a mere child. Oh wait, that is the case, isn’t it? Martin was a football player, wasn’t he? And people are calling him a child.
 
kelvinf said:
So you think the height of Trayvon Martin had a role to play in this and that Zimmerman, an adult and Trayvon, a teenager means nothing?
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I think that the assessment of a threat in this instance had more to do with actions.
 
scipio337 said:
Thankfully, there are people who value both Trayvon Martin’s AND George Zimmerman’s life, who based on the evidence provided, don’t believe it sufficient to confict for 2nd Degree murder:

criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-definition.html

The shooting may indeed be defined withing “a reasonable heat of passion” (physical confrontation), and there is no evidence of “lack of concern for human life”.

You act as is Zimmerman shot Martin randomly, or without calling 9/11. These aren’t the acts of someone with a lack of concern for human life.
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He called 911, so?

A Texas man called 911 before he deliberately ignored the dispatcher, went outside and fulfilled his stated intention of shooting the criminals robbing his neighbor’s house AND got away with it all thanks to the ‘value’ his fellow citizens put on human life!
 
maryjk said:
So how badly must I be hurt, in your mind, before I can take action? Keep in mind the teenager was 6 foot 3.
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Is anyone who gets into a fight justified in shooting their opponent, even an opponent they pursued? People get injured in fights everyday but especially when they went looking for it, I don’t think that justifies pulling out a gun.
 
There is no evidence that Trayvon wasthe first attacker. That is from Zimmermans statement, so it is very one sided.
He also said in a recent interview that killing that poor boy was God’s will. Really?!
RIP Trayvon:(
 
seekerz said:
Is anyone who gets into a fight justified in shooting their opponent, even an opponent they pursued? People get injured in fights everyday but especially when they went looking for it, I don’t think that justifies pulling out a gun.
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The purpose of the fight is to cause injury. Injury to the point of being unable to defend oneself.

In my eyes, that is justification for deadly force in defense of oneself.
 
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