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Amolibri
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What exactly do you call this???
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orionsbelt
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Avoiding the central issue with distractions.What exactly do you call this???
Stick to the point.
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Amolibri
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I have not seen any negative attitudes to note.
That point was brought up.
That point was brought up.
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orionsbelt
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Fine.I have not seen any negative attitudes to note.
That point was brought up.
Now do you join the chorus in demanding that these people stop their destructive behavior?
Either they clearly denote that they are some church other than the Roman Catholic Church or stop mocking our most sacred Sacrament.
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Esperance
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Manualman, that is a great answer! I have never made that connection with Manicheanism and this issue before, but you hit the nail on the head. 
Isn’t it great to live in a Protestant nation?!
Isn’t it great to live in a Protestant nation?!
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Amolibri
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Fine.
If you want to see it that way, no one is stopping you.
Prayers go out for you and them.
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orionsbelt
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I’m curious as to your opinion of these activites.Fine.
Do you accept that these women really are priests and they conduct a valid Mass with a true Eucharist?
Or do you not see a problem with anyone claiming to be a priest and leading people away from the Eucharist?
It has to be one or the other. Or if you see a third explaination I’d love to hear it.
If you view this situation as the later do you support the idea that anyone (me, my wife, whoever) can set up shop as a Roman Catholic Priest and start saying Mass?
Wouldn’t that be dangerous to the faith? Wouldn’t that render the preisthood meaningless?
Specific answers would be appreciated.
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Amolibri
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*I’m curious as to your opinion of these activites. *
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So, you can ascribe to me more ideas I haven’t expressed. Save it for someone else.
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So, you can ascribe to me more ideas I haven’t expressed. Save it for someone else.
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orionsbelt
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Because I’ve always thought the purpose of these discussion boards was to view and exchange opinions on the subject presented.*I’m curious as to your opinion of these activites. *
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I’m not really interested in ascribing other things to ideas you express but I come here to explore ideas and opinions on the subjects I consider important.
If you don’t want to express any specific thoughts I’m fine with that. Its just not very interesting. If every discussion is at such general level as to apply to just about anything why bother?.
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Amolibri
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Your questions to me are quite confrontational and assume positions I have not expressed. I disagree with some of your pronoucements, and I also I feel I am being bullied by your statements. I know you are quite fervent in your beliefs, and good for you. I have no intention of debating this with you. Thank you. I will pray for you.
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orionsbelt
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How is asking you what you think bulling?Your questions to me are quite confrontational and assume positions I have not expressed. I disagree with some of your pronoucements, and I also I feel I am being bullied by your statements. I know you are quite fervent in your beliefs, and good for you. I have no intention of debating this with you. Thank you. I will pray for you.
If you have no intention of expressing you opinions on a subject why are you here?
Out of curiosity I searched for your other posts. It appears you never actually express any opinion. All you ever do is criticise other people.
Perhaps if you were willing to go out on a limb and express your opinion on something you might not be so afraid of other people’s opinions.
I suggest you open your mind to having your ideas examined and challenges and then both you and those with differing opinions might actually grow.
There is nothing I’d rather hear than “I disagree with you and this is why and this is what I think and this is why”
It does me no good to hear people say “I agree with you”.
My best freind is agnostic and no one is better at strengthening my faith. By the way he claims to be an athiest but I argue with him all the time about that and try to convince he is actually an agnostic. We couldn’t be more different in our belief systems. Great fun and rich well thought out lives for both of us.
But if you’d rather live in a bubble where you never wnat to examine and support your ideas and opinions. More power to you.
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Walt_Oliver
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Recent posts have been deleted because of personal bickering. Please discuss the topic at than, not each other. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Lynn-D
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Seems to me that she is ignoring two principles of the Catholic Church:
Second, she is married so would not be eligible to be ordained a priest on that fact alone. Yes, some male priests converted from other faiths and are married and are now Catholic priests but those are rare exceptions approved by the Vatican.
I personally have no problem with accepting my role within the church as a woman much the same way Mary Magdalene served at the Last Supper and at the Crucifixion. Take notice also that women were the ones that prepared Jesus’ body for burial.
Women serve but in different ways than do men. We do that in our homes as well do we not?
Not too long ago girls were not allowed to serve on the altar as they are today. I for one think this is admirable but was slow in coming as will other changes but done through the auspices of the Holy See. If we want changes in the Catholic Church then we should be able to voice our position, not impose a demand as this woman is surely doing.
I have to wonder how she accepts other doctrines of the Catholic Church when it is obvious that she seems to agree with some of the churches tenets but not others? Is she now to become a self appointed editor of the teachings of the Catholic Church?
Seems like she is fostering just another in a long line of protestant thinking. Almost as if she would be more comfortable in one of the churches that follow the dictates of Henry VIII or Martin Luther?
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- Men become priests
- At ordination a priest takes a vow of celibacy.
Second, she is married so would not be eligible to be ordained a priest on that fact alone. Yes, some male priests converted from other faiths and are married and are now Catholic priests but those are rare exceptions approved by the Vatican.
I personally have no problem with accepting my role within the church as a woman much the same way Mary Magdalene served at the Last Supper and at the Crucifixion. Take notice also that women were the ones that prepared Jesus’ body for burial.
Women serve but in different ways than do men. We do that in our homes as well do we not?
Not too long ago girls were not allowed to serve on the altar as they are today. I for one think this is admirable but was slow in coming as will other changes but done through the auspices of the Holy See. If we want changes in the Catholic Church then we should be able to voice our position, not impose a demand as this woman is surely doing.
I have to wonder how she accepts other doctrines of the Catholic Church when it is obvious that she seems to agree with some of the churches tenets but not others? Is she now to become a self appointed editor of the teachings of the Catholic Church?
Seems like she is fostering just another in a long line of protestant thinking. Almost as if she would be more comfortable in one of the churches that follow the dictates of Henry VIII or Martin Luther?
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iamrefreshed
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When one can decide to ignore even one church doctrine or teaching they are opening up the right for everyone to do the same.
The one who agrees that women can be priests better dam* well agree with the one who supports abortion, polygamy, homosexual marriage, euthanasia and any other sin one feels compelled to commit. If not, you’re just a hypocrite!
The one who agrees that women can be priests better dam* well agree with the one who supports abortion, polygamy, homosexual marriage, euthanasia and any other sin one feels compelled to commit. If not, you’re just a hypocrite!
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LRThunder
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Many of the groups calling for women “ordination” also agree with many of those things you listed.The one who agrees that women can be priests better dam* well agree with the one who supports abortion, polygamy, homosexual marriage, euthanasia and any other sin one feels compelled to commit. If not, you’re just a hypocrite!
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Digitonomy
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I don’t think you can undermine the argument for women priests by citing this symbolic or typologic “marriage.” If we follow your logic, it would also be impossible for a married man to act in persona Christi.
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Marsha_Adams
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The argument for women priests has already been totally undermined by the Pope speaking ex cathedra and saying that there cannot be women priests. The Church has spoken. The subject is closed. Period. The End. Fini.
What more is there to be said?
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Digitonomy
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Since it appears you are addressing me, I’ll point out that it was jay29 who had something additional to say about this, which I felt was logically flawed. My comment was directed at him, not at the former Holy Father.
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Marsha_Adams
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Digitonomy:
Sorry, no my comment was not directed TOWARD you, rather it was intended to BUILD upon what you had already said. Truly I meant no offense.
Marsha
Sorry, no my comment was not directed TOWARD you, rather it was intended to BUILD upon what you had already said. Truly I meant no offense.
Marsha
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Dragoro
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Just another example of people trying to make God’s word fit their views instead od making their views fit God’s word.
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