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And again:

For the ones with less than good intent, and for the sake of peace, I’ll repost:

‘…February 11, Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes…’ :blessyou: The Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
 
 
friardchips said:
For the ones with less than good intent, and for the sake of peace, I’ll repost:

‘…February 11, Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes…’ :blessyou: The Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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That makes more sense. I just don’t understand you some times.
 
friardchips said:
Underhand tactics (Agnestherese!) :dts: - to purposely misinterpret my post to MM…
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We’ve seen over and over in this thread, that you know a great deal about “deliberately misinterpreting.” So much so, in fact, that I’m really surprised you falsely accuse me of it. But on second thought, I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised.
I am advocating the rosary not laughing at it (as you well know).
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Putting an rotfl smiley right after the words “Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes” and right before the words “The Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary” hardly seems like promoting. At least, not to most people.

Also, I fixed your shouting for you. You’re welcome.
 
agnes_therese said:
We’ve seen over and over in this thread, that you know a great deal about “deliberately misinterpreting.” So much so, in fact, that I’m really surprised you falsely accuse me of it. But on second thought, I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised.
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I don’t deliberately misinterpret anything, thank you.
Putting an rotfl smiley right after the words “Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes” and right before the words “The Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary” hardly seems like promoting. At least, not to most people.
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Depends what your disposition is. I found that emoticon to be joyful and amazing that such a link could be there however you saw it is laughing at Our Lady.

Maybe if you had bothered to ask first rather than diving in with a completely unnecessary reproach.
Also, I fixed your shouting for you. You’re welcome.
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Not shouting. I wrote for people who find it hard to see.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
That makes more sense. I just don’t understand you some times.
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:ehh: I found the emoticon and thought it signalled someone rolling around with joy. You had spoken about wellbeing, I guess joy isn’t as important as balance, health, refreshment and emotional stability - you could have easily known what I meant if you had remembered any of our most recent dialogue prior to that post.
 
friardchips said:
:ehh: I found the emoticon and thought it signalled someone rolling around with joy. You had spoken about wellbeing, I guess joy isn’t as important as balance, health, refreshment and emotional stability - you could have easily known what I meant if you had remembered any of our most recent dialogue prior to that post.
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:rotfl: implies laughter, as in laughing at

👍:clapping::extrahappy: as in approval and happiness

No big deal though. We understand each other:hug1:
 
Michael_Mayo said:
:rotfl: implies laughter, as in laughing at

👍:clapping::extrahappy: as in approval and happiness

No big deal though. We understand each other:hug1:
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Thank you for this, Michael! We do understand one another now so all is well :thumbsup:although I don’t think that the site would have an emoticon for laughing at someone as this would go against charity and I am relieved we are back in dialogue approaching debate in the spirit of goodwill - February 11th, this is a big sign to live, and breathe the Rosary!..😃

:amen:
 
agnes_therese said:
Putting an rotfl smiley right after the words “Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes” and right before the words “The Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary” hardly seems like promoting. At least, not to most people.

Also, I fixed your shouting for you. You’re welcome.
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…however, if you thought that the emoticon was a laughing at the rosary attempt then you did well to defend against such a post.
 
On the subject of Our Lady, I’m coming off the forum now. Please say a Hail Mary for me as I will for you! God bless whatever you all do! 👋
 
friardchips said:
On the subject of Our Lady, I’m coming off the forum now. Please say a Hail Mary for me as I will for you! God bless whatever you all do! 👋
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Ok, but at least take a stretch and deep breath once in a while.:coolinoff:
 
A poster posted this on a thread a long time ago: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=935927 - This mentions what the Pope initially said regarding Yoga, so it looks as if his recent comment was as I thought otherwise he would be contradicting himself if it implied what others favouring Yoga were stating:
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(ANSA) - Rome, January 9 - Courses in spirituality or searching for answers through yoga are a waste of time because only through God can individuals find the love that sets them free, Pope Francis said Friday.
In a homily during morning Mass at the Vatican guesthouse where he lives, the pope said that many people are seeking peace and a feeling of freedom, and try to find this through yoga and Zen studies.
*But those options appeal to an individual’s pride, and instead, it is only by humbly accepting the Holy Spirit that a person can be free, the pope said, according to Vatican Radio.

ansa.it/english/news/vatican/2015/01/09/pope-says-yoga-courses-have-no-answers_e0ef3974-4581-4d82-b698-2458d775444e.html

Over and out.

;)👍

Happy Easter.*
 
Here is an excerpt from Fr. Jean-Marie Dechanet’s book, Christian Yoga, explaining his intention and motivation in practicing yoga:

“In doing this, my intention is not to compel the supernatural, any more than it is to put all manner of acrobatics in the place of dispositions of the heart; nor is it to obtain by mechanical and artificial means what can only be the fruit of a sincere piety and a generosity of soul that appeals to divine love. On the contrary, it is simply to create around me and in me an atmosphere of calm, peace, and silence, and especially to establish harmony between body, soul and spirit so that nothing in me shall hinder the working of grace. In short, I make use of a means, genial in its banality, of recollecting myself in the true sense of the word - of gathering myself together, of possessing myself, of having complete control of myself, so as to hand myself wholly over to God.”

It is interesting to note that this book, first published in 1956, was written with the approval of the abbot of Fr. Dechanet’s Benedictine monastery, and it received both the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat from his bishop.

I hope you are all having a blessed Holy Week.
 
christofirst said:
Here is an excerpt from Fr. Jean-Marie Dechanet’s book, Christian Yoga, explaining his intention and motivation in practicing yoga:

“In doing this, my intention is not to compel the supernatural, any more than it is to put all manner of acrobatics in the place of dispositions of the heart; nor is it to obtain by mechanical and artificial means what can only be the fruit of a sincere piety and a generosity of soul that appeals to divine love. On the contrary, it is simply to create around me and in me an atmosphere of calm, peace, and silence, and especially to establish harmony between body, soul and spirit so that nothing in me shall hinder the working of grace. In short, I make use of a means, genial in its banality, of recollecting myself in the true sense of the word - of gathering myself together, of possessing myself, of having complete control of myself, so as to hand myself wholly over to God.”

It is interesting to note that this book, first published in 1956, was written with the approval of the abbot of Fr. Dechanet’s Benedictine monastery, and it received both the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat from his bishop.

I hope you are all having a blessed Holy Week.
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I think we can take it a step further, as a part of a life of penance along with diet.

St. Louis de Montfort wrote: 201.5. If we would possess Wisdom, we must mortify the body, not only by enduring patiently our bodily ailments, the inconveniences of the weather and the difficulties arising from other people’s actions, but also by deliberately undertaking some penances and mortifications, such as fasts, vigils and other austerities practiced by holy penitents.

It requires courage to do that because the body naturally idolizes itself, and the world considers all bodily penances as pointless and rejects them. The world does and says everything possible to deter people from practicing the austerities of the saints. Of every saint, it can be said, with due allowances, “the wise or the saintly man has brought his body into subjection by vigils, fasts and disciplines, by enduring the cold and nakedness and every kind of austerity, and he has made a compact not to give it any rest in this world” (cf Rom. Brev. St. Peter of Alcantara). The Holy Spirit says of all the saints, that they were enemies of the stained robe of the flesh (Jude 23).
saintwiki.com/index.php?title=Louis_de_Montfort/The_Love_of_Eternal_Wisdom/Chapter_16&oldid=13309
 
christofirst said:
Here is an excerpt from Fr. Jean-Marie Dechanet’s book, Christian Yoga, explaining his intention and motivation in practicing yoga:

“In doing this, my intention is not to compel the supernatural, any more than it is to put all manner of acrobatics in the place of dispositions of the heart; nor is it to obtain by mechanical and artificial means what can only be the fruit of a sincere piety and a generosity of soul that appeals to divine love. On the contrary, it is simply to create around me and in me an atmosphere of calm, peace, and silence, and especially to establish harmony between body, soul and spirit so that nothing in me shall hinder the working of grace. In short, I make use of a means, genial in its banality, of recollecting myself in the true sense of the word - of gathering myself together, of possessing myself, of having complete control of myself, so as to hand myself wholly over to God.”

It is interesting to note that this book, first published in 1956, was written with the approval of the abbot of Fr. Dechanet’s Benedictine monastery, and it received both the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat from his bishop.

I hope you are all having a blessed Holy Week.
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Well, I do this with no recourse to yoga or any other technique. Wonder if the approving clergy would still approve …
 
I just can’t believe that after 13 days of no posts on this thread, friardchips just couldn’t leave it alone.

I’m not sure whether to admire his dedication, or be concerned for him that he’s so obsessed.

Thank you, CAF staff, for giving us the “ignore list.”
 
Dear Agnes, I like your thread/group from Nov 2014 regarding the importance of being charitable in posts…! 😉
Peeps, listen…
  1. How can lifting one’s mind to Yoga, out into the Cosmos, be, at the same time, going inwards, in one’s heart, towards God? Is this not the same as going up to Jesus, saying “Hi, let me spend time with you”", then turning around and walking the other way.
2a. If one is praying to God in quiet, in simple position (kneeling or sitting), this clearly puts the position as secondary priority, after the importance of being with God…

however, if one is trying to put oneself into a position and this takes some effort, then this effort puts being with God as secondary importance after the body position.

This is one reason why Christian mantras differ to non-Christian ones, I would guess.

St. Louis De Montfort never endorsed Yoga. I am worried about having some part in you deciding to make erroneous statements, because using a Saint’s remarks to justify one’s own position on a matter, way out of context, I would imagine is exactly that. I think we could refrain from attempting to link Yoga to Christian roots as the link does not exist. Really. And it won’t do anyone any spiritual merit to continue in that vain.

Did Pope Francis not make two statements. I read that this was one he made in 2009, but the one I was originally referring to I thought he made in Jan. this year?! Maybe I’ve made a mistake on dates, Michael. I did think he spoke twice hence why I bothered to post again after leaving.

Be well! 👍
 
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