You're the Church. Young people are leaving in droves. What do you do?

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Occam’s razor of an answer there.

For example, if you were to take a young adult from outside of Christianity how would you explain real presence in communion and then justify why they should believe you?
 
The basic point is telling people that Jesus Christ loves them and died for them, and answering any follow-up questions.
 
The problem is actually much simpler, I believe, than what most people are willing to admit.

No normal, healthy person (or abnormal and sick, truthfully) stays in a place that they feel is irrelevant to them and their life. Why would they, or should they? They are on the same journey all of us are on…trying to figure out this life we have and this world we have been placed in. No need to burn daylight with perceived irrelevancy.

So the question should be, why do they feel the Church is irrelevant to them and their lives?

In my experience, many (if not most) people find properties of the Catholic faith they can hang their hat on. Most people can’t get on board 100%, though. There are aspects of Catholic teachings that they just can’t, in good conscience (or for whatever reason) get behind.

So then what happens? If they are Church-goers, one of two things. Some will pray about it, try to learn more, humble themselves, and submit. Others (most, I believe), may pray about it, try to learn more, try to humble themselves, and decide “Nope. No–can-do”. That is when they exit.

It does no good to admonish, correct, or try to convince the people in the second group of how wrong they are. They understand. They just don’t believe everything 100%. Instead, they are often accused of “not understanding” (they understand just fine) or of “not being a good Catholic” (they are good and they are Catholic), etc. It isn’t loving, and it isn’t the way to foster growth in someone who “isn’t there quite yet”.

The solution is simple. To those who are Catholics, solid in their faith, and who engage those who arent, in that manner: “Quit doing that!” . It seems to be a cultural problem. Damage is often done on the level of individual relationships. Catholic-to-Catholic.

I think the more the Church can foster an environment of everyone being welcome, regardless of where they are in their state of Catholic development, or their state of accepting Church teachings, the better off and more rich the Church will be. This would mean the message received at Mass and Church functions is “We are so glad you came today. We love you.” Instead of whispers about whose marriage is valid or who should be receiving communion and who should stay in the pew. Who conceived via IVF. Or what about who attended the gay pride event or who doesn’t really believe in the sacrament of confession. We see this a lot here at CAF. A race to the top…who is the “most” Catholic. How terrible it is about those who aren’t Catholic “enough”. As I said, I believe it is cultural, not necessarily institutional. It is a shame, because so many are lost, when they may have otherwise stuck around. I am not suggesting the faith be watered down. I am suggesting that more effort is put in to accepting and allowing people to grow in their faith. It doesn’t happen overnight. It isn’t perfect until we take our last breath. It is a work in progress.

Young people don’t like to feel defeated. Especially in today’s world. They want to grow at a pace that is comfortable to them. I think it makes sense, especially where religion and faith are concerned.
 
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Damage is often done on the level of individual relationships. Catholic-to-Catholic.
Young people are given a lot of bad information from people who do not care about their welfare. That is the problem, not Catholic to Catholic. And they will not be young forever. They must see and hear the truth. And know that there are answers to their questions.
 
My personal experience tells me otherwise, Ed. Just my two cents worth.
 
Young people are given a lot of bad information from people who do not care about their welfare. That is the problem, not Catholic to Catholic. And they will not be young forever. They must see and hear the truth. And know that there are answers to their questions.
And if they disagree with the “truth” upon maturing and giving careful thought?

Just find it odd the assumption that teaching something means the pupil actually agrees with it.
 
If no one tells them about the Church then how will they know? How will they get that chance to accept or reject it? And by maturing, there are two ways: the way of the world or maturing as a Christian. Of course, they have free will.
 
Not if it pushes you from Christ you aren’t.
May I remind you of the Arian heresy?
 
I agree. I’m pretty young myself, and my peers seem to all agree that religion is simply irrelevant. And hence, they don’t bother looking into it in the first place. They seem perfectly fine with not knowing what they believe in, although I think this will change when they get older.

Also, most of us live in a time and place where we have a crazy amount of freedom. Why bother with religion? Why enter a community where people will judge a gay person and his boyfriend, a mother and her full time job, a feminine guy, etc? When you look from their perspective, it’s easy to see why religion is the last thing they want.

Most young people are not used to have their freedom limited in general. Hence they turn away from anything that says ‘don’t do x, do y’ when they aren’t told why. The justification for all of these rules, that is.
 
The more the Church can foster an environment of everyone being welcome, regardless of where they are in their state of Catholic development, or their state of accepting Church teachings, the better off and more rich the Church will be. This would mean the message received at Mass and Church functions is “We are so glad you came today. We love you.” Instead of whispers about whose marriage is valid or who should be receiving communion and who should stay in the pew. Who conceived via IVF. Or what about who attended the gay pride event or who doesn’t really believe in the sacrament of confession. We see this a lot here at CAF. A race to the top…who is the “most” Catholic. How terrible it is about those who aren’t Catholic “enough”. As I said, I believe it is cultural, not necessarily institutional. It is a shame, because so many are lost, when they may have otherwise stuck around. I am not suggesting the faith be watered down. I am suggesting that more effort is put in to accepting and allowing people to grow in their faith. It doesn’t happen overnight. It isn’t perfect until we take our last breath. It is a work in progress.

Young people don’t like to feel defeated. Especially in today’s world. They want to grow at a pace that is comfortable to them. I think it makes sense, especially where religion and faith are concerned.
I feel the opposite. Many Catholics seem to think they can pick and choose what to believe. I think those who publically dissent from Chirch teaching and are not corrected give that impression and want to see consequences for them.

For example pro abortion politions should not be given Holy Communion if they present themselves (actually I’d love to see them excommunicated).

In the short term, yes more will leave. Long term I think we will end up with a stronger Church that may attract more people.

On saying that it could (and should) be coupled with outreaches to those who aren’t there yet.
 
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I agree, and it’s “not nice” but it’s for the best: history has taught us that if people don’t understand or grasp all the nuances of theology, that’s fine, as long as they are willing to learn — but if we compromise on morals, we weaken the church, and risk self-destructive scandal. We are likely headed for a smaller church in the near future, as Cardinal Ratzinger (as he then was) predicted, but it will grow again with a “new springtime” after this demographic “winter” is over. Keep the faith.
 
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I would advocate for youth-oriented work for those who are interested in becoming Catholic.
Fast forward to 2014, I met a really amazing university-oriented Catholic group. There, I met missionaries who taught to me about the Catholic faith. I was amazed and my eyes were opened.
Soon, I told my parents about my thoughts about becoming Catholic. I told my parents that there was this amazing Catholic group at my university. My parents were thinking about Catholicism also, and said “why not give the catechism classes a try?” that’s exactly what I did.

I took RCIA classes in early 2015 and finished on May, a month later than everyone else.
I was conditionally baptised (I was baptized in the Protestant tradition) and confirmed.

If it was not for that Catholic group, I would not have been introduced to the Catholic Church, and I would never have understood how much my faith means to me.

Edit: my parents converted a year later.
 
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Nicely done.
Good list. How about a nicely organized and run Hang Out center instead of a WOKE mass? Promote participation in making music to glorify God?
 
Romans 10:14

New International Version
How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?

New Living Translation
But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them?

English Standard Version
How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?
 
It seems that there is a divorced and remarried teacher without an anullment still employed.
It’s not an inconsistency. The teacher involved in a gay marriage did a public act against the teachings of the church with no intent to fix it by ending the sin.
The divorced teacher remarrying did a one time act that she can fix by pursuing an annulment of the previous marriage and convalidating the current marriage, and repent. There is no intent of continued sin.
 
And also by the fact that the school does not require its teachers to be Catholic, so it is impossible for the school to argue that it considers its teachers to be in a ministerial position.
Non-Catholics are also ministering to the students. As exemplars, they are expected to uphold Catholic morality in teaching-both in word and deed.
 
More reverence in the liturgy better bringing back traditional catechisms the church needs to be more transparent in regards to abuse
 
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It seems that there is a divorced and remarried teacher without an anullment still employed.
To be fair, how does a school know if it’s teacher’s previous marriages are annulled or not…you can’t by sight unlike a couple in a same sex marriage, however, now that it’s public (I believe she admitted it and asked to be fired), she should indeed be fired.
 
The divorced teacher remarrying did a one time act that she can fix by pursuing an annulment of the previous marriage and convalidating the current marriage, and repent. There is no intent of continued sin.
But if they refused to pursue an annulment and convalidation, their intention would be continued sin. Isn’t that the same situation?
 
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