11 Year old sex change from lesbian mothers

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If children at this age had the mental capacity to make a decision of this magnitude, they should certainly be voting for president. What will happen with this poor boy is 18…
I have to point out, the article says:
The mothers say that one of the first things Thomas told them when he learned sign language aged three - because of a speech impediment - was, ‘I am a girl’.
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At the age of three – really?!?
 
mtbender said:
If children at this age had the mental capacity to make a decision of this magnitude, they should certainly be voting for president. What will happen with this poor boy is 18…
I have to point out, the article says:

At the age of three – really?!?
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At the age of three, my son told me he was a princess. :eek: Is he a girl - HECK NO!

Frankly, women with disordered sexual identities have no business parenting a child at all but especially not if the child might have some issues with gender.
 
I wonder if there are any males in this boy’s life. What the poor boy needs is his father. I doubt he is going to get that.
 
HouseArrest said:
I wonder if there are any males in this boy’s life. What the poor boy needs is his father. I doubt he is going to get that.
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Sadly, not likely. All he’s probably known only the two women and so his development of gender-identity has been formed by that lack of any type of male role-model.
 
mtbender said:
If children at this age had the mental capacity to make a decision of this magnitude, they should certainly be voting for president. What will happen with this poor boy is 18…
I have to point out, the article says:

At the age of three – really?!?
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Are we supposed to be shocked that a boy with no male influence in his life identifies himself with his two mommy’s? 🤷
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Are we supposed to be shocked that a boy with no male influence in his life identifies himself with his two mommy’s? 🤷
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No, but we should be disgusted that a three year olds remarks would be used as some sort of justification…

My kids at the age of three identified themselves with a lot of things…
 
'We live in the Bay area where lots of alternative lifestyles are in place…"

Modern day Sodom.:mad:
 
mtbender said:
No, but we should be disgusted that a three year olds remarks would be used as some sort of justification…

My kids at the age of three identified themselves with a lot of things…
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:shrug:My son at one point wanted to be a teenage mutant ninja turtle. Maybe I should have looked harder for a bowl of glowing green goo and a common box turtle.
 
Firstly, please respect her gender by referring to her with proper pronouns. Reading through this thread, there seems to be a crippling deficit in understanding of gender, sexuality, and psychology/psychiatry.
  1. This is definitely not child abuse. It is not like these parents are just randomly making the decision to allow their daughter to transition. Physicians and psychologists must perform in-depth assessments and other treatment methods, over a long period of time, before authorizing a physical transition. Remember, hormones are not just an over-the-counter drug; they are prescribed by a physician through recommendations of a team of healthcare providers.
  2. Her same-sex parents have nothing to do with her gender identity. Plenty, I’d even venture to say most, transgender youth have opposite-sex parents and grow up in “heterosexual, cisgendger” households. There is absolutely no evidence suggesting any causation or correlation between the gender and sexuality of parents in relation to the gender identity of the child.
  3. Transitioning genders, a social construct relative only to humans, is completely different from trying to change species. This is a simple point and if people can’t at least understand this, I have lost all hope in humanity.
  4. The parents aren’t transitioning- the child is. If you have reason to believe that this child’s team of licensed healthcare providers are forcing hormones upon this child, for reasons other than the treatment of gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder (such as propaganda), then I strongly encourage you to report them to the appropriate law enforcement agency.
  5. Yes, you must be 18 years old to vote, smoke, etc… but you can be any age to receive competent medical treatment. Gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder are legitimate conditions that require treatment.
  6. Santi2: Your comment shows your complete ignorance regarding gender. Here’s the simple version: Gender is a social construct, it refers to the cultural and social gestures, attitudes, and characteristics assigned to a biological sex. Being a woman is not necessarily contingent upon the sex one was assigned at birth. Going off of your logic, a woman who does not have all of her reproductive organs or is sterile will always be wanting and is not a full woman.
  7. This wouldn’t be done to a dog. You are anthropomorphizing dogs if you believe that they have gender.
Educate yourselves on gender identity. Don’t forget that these are people, made in the image and likeness of God, and deserve human dignity and compassion. I beg all of you to please model yourselves after Jesus and saints such as St. Francis of Assisi and Mother Theresa when dealing with people that stir up some deep seeded biases.
 
ringil said:
I was thinking this as well. As a licensed Therapist this is very alarming indeed.

These parents must have found a fringe psychiatrist to diagnose so young a child with this conditions and a physician to prescribe these medications. Agree with Gender Identity Disorder or not, I have never heard of it being diagnosed in a non-adult.

Most therapists and psychiatrists are extremely hesitant to diagnose Bi-Polar Disorder or a Psychotic Disorder, much less such a rare and controversial diagnosis in a child.

These parents had to shop for this type of “care” to be provided.

These hormone treatments well result in permanent and irreversable changes in this child. These kinds of decisions shouldn’t be made by kids or parents on behalf on their kids.

This type of “early interventionist” strategies were historically given to children with ambiguous genitalia and these people are nearly universally unhappy with the results.

This is really sad for this poor kid.
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What exactly are your credentials? What is alarming to me is that fact that, as a self-professed licensed therapist, you are unaware that children are diagnosed and treated for gender dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder all the time.

I strongly recommend that you cease and desist any clinical contact with clients displaying indicators of GD and GID. If you refuse to do so, you are directly violating laws regarding your scope of competence.

I also recommend that you review the following articles regarding transgender, transexual, and gender non-conforming clients.

Standards of Care for the Health of Transsexual, Transgender, and Gender Nonconforming People
thisishow.org/Files/soc7.pdf

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Concerns- American Psychological Association
apa.org/pi/lgbt/index.aspx

APA Division 44
apadivision44.org/

GLBT Therapy Guidelines
aglp.org/pages/guidelines.html
 
divinelight said:
Firstly, please respect her gender by referring to her with proper pronouns. Reading through this thread, there seems to be a crippling deficit in understanding of gender, sexuality, and psychology/psychiatry.
  1. This is definitely not child abuse. It is not like these parents are just randomly making the decision to allow their daughter to transition. Physicians and psychologists must perform in-depth assessments and other treatment methods, over a long period of time, before authorizing a physical transition. Remember, hormones are not just an over-the-counter drug; they are prescribed by a physician through recommendations of a team of healthcare providers.
  2. Her same-sex parents have nothing to do with her gender identity. Plenty, I’d even venture to say most, transgender youth have opposite-sex parents and grow up in “heterosexual, cisgendger” households. There is absolutely no evidence suggesting any causation or correlation between the gender and sexuality of parents in relation to the gender identity of the child.
  3. Transitioning genders, a social construct relative only to humans, is completely different from trying to change species. This is a simple point and if people can’t at least understand this, I have lost all hope in humanity.
  4. The parents aren’t transitioning- the child is. If you have reason to believe that this child’s team of licensed healthcare providers are forcing hormones upon this child, for reasons other than the treatment of gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder (such as propaganda), then I strongly encourage you to report them to the appropriate law enforcement agency.
  5. Yes, you must be 18 years old to vote, smoke, etc… but you can be any age to receive competent medical treatment. Gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder are legitimate conditions that require treatment.
  6. Santi2: Your comment shows your complete ignorance regarding gender. Here’s the simple version: Gender is a social construct, it refers to the cultural and social gestures, attitudes, and characteristics assigned to a biological sex. Being a woman is not necessarily contingent upon the sex one was assigned at birth. Going off of your logic, a woman who does not have all of her reproductive organs or is sterile will always be wanting and is not a full woman.
  7. This wouldn’t be done to a dog. You are anthropomorphizing dogs if you believe that they have gender.
Educate yourselves on gender identity. Don’t forget that these are people, made in the image and likeness of God, and deserve human dignity and compassion. I beg all of you to please model yourselves after Jesus and saints such as St. Francis of Assisi and Mother Theresa when dealing with people that stir up some deep seeded biases.
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DNA remains DNA no matter what is done to the organs of the body.

Of course animals have a gender: they are either male or female and remain so even if rendered unfertile.

I remind you, respectfully, that God did make this child in His Image and Likeness, and chose to make this child a male, no matter what his very confused “parents” and politically correct society think or feel.
 
divinelight said:
What exactly are your credentials? What is alarming to me is that fact that, as a self-professed licensed therapist, you are unaware that children are diagnosed and treated for gender dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder all the time.

I strongly recommend that you cease and desist any clinical contact with clients displaying indicators of GD and GID. If you refuse to do so, you are directly violating laws regarding your scope of competence.

I also recommend that you review the following articles regarding transgender, transexual, and gender non-conforming clients.

Standards of Care for the Health of Transsexual, Transgender, and Gender Nonconforming People
thisishow.org/Files/soc7.pdf

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Concerns- American Psychological Association
apa.org/pi/lgbt/index.aspx

APA Division 44
apadivision44.org/

GLBT Therapy Guidelines
aglp.org/pages/guidelines.html
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Before you start calling others out about their credentials, I suggest that you show us yours.
 
Peggy_in_Burien said:
Before you start calling others out about their credentials, I suggest that you show us yours.
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Nowhere in my argument do I claim to be a licensed mental health professional, nor do I use my credentials to validate my argument.

However, since you asked, I will be open about myself. I am currently a student with a strong background in mental health and gender and sexuality studies. I have worked extensively with LGBT populations under the supervision of a licensed clinician and have conducted in-depth research into sexuality and gender, specifically social determinants of health in transgender and gender variant individuals, healthcare delivery disparities, and sociocultural conceptions of gender and sexuality. I currently work in LGBT mental health, and due to the nature of my job, am required to maintain a high level of competence in regards to new research.

Upon saying this, I do not request that you or anyone else accept my statements as valid based upon my credentials. Investigate what I am saying for yourself. Look at what scientists and scholars are saying on this, and be critical of their methodologies and the scientific process. That’s all.
 
divinelight said:
Firstly, please respect her gender by referring to her with proper pronouns. Reading through this thread, there seems to be a crippling deficit in understanding of gender, sexuality, and psychology/psychiatry.
  1. This is definitely not child abuse. It is not like these parents are just randomly making the decision to allow their daughter to transition. Physicians and psychologists must perform in-depth assessments and other treatment methods, over a long period of time, before authorizing a physical transition. Remember, hormones are not just an over-the-counter drug; they are prescribed by a physician through recommendations of a team of healthcare providers.
  2. Her same-sex parents have nothing to do with her gender identity. Plenty, I’d even venture to say most, transgender youth have opposite-sex parents and grow up in “heterosexual, cisgendger” households. There is absolutely no evidence suggesting any causation or correlation between the gender and sexuality of parents in relation to the gender identity of the child.
  3. Transitioning genders, a social construct relative only to humans, is completely different from trying to change species. This is a simple point and if people can’t at least understand this, I have lost all hope in humanity.
  4. The parents aren’t transitioning- the child is. If you have reason to believe that this child’s team of licensed healthcare providers are forcing hormones upon this child, for reasons other than the treatment of gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder (such as propaganda), then I strongly encourage you to report them to the appropriate law enforcement agency.
  5. Yes, you must be 18 years old to vote, smoke, etc… but you can be any age to receive competent medical treatment. Gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder are legitimate conditions that require treatment.
  6. Santi2: Your comment shows your complete ignorance regarding gender. Here’s the simple version: **Gender is a social construct, **it refers to the cultural and social gestures, attitudes, and characteristics assigned to a biological sex. Being a woman is not necessarily contingent upon the sex one was assigned at birth. Going off of your logic, a woman who does not have all of her reproductive organs or is sterile will always be wanting and is not a full woman.
  7. This wouldn’t be done to a dog. You are anthropomorphizing dogs if you believe that they have gender.
Educate yourselves on gender identity. Don’t forget that these are people, made in the image and likeness of God, and deserve human dignity and compassion. I beg all of you to please model yourselves after Jesus and saints such as St. Francis of Assisi and Mother Theresa when dealing with people that stir up some deep seeded biases.
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Your post lost all credibility when you wrote that gender is a social construct.
That statement reeks of radical left wing feminist ideology.

If gender is a ‘social construct’, then who constructed the gender of bulls, cows, deer and other animals whose behaviours all demonstrate a natural classification of what gender means. You wrote that characteristics are assigned to a biological sex, so who did the assigning?
 
Berkeley… That says it all. Please keep these people in your prayers and so will I. God help us all.
 
Peggy_in_Burien said:
DNA remains DNA no matter what is done to the organs of the body.

Of course animals have a gender: they are either male or female and remain so even if rendered unfertile.

I remind you, respectfully, that God did make this child in His Image and Likeness, and chose to make this child a male, no matter what his very confused “parents” and politically correct society think or feel.
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There is a distinction between sex and gender. As I said previously, sex is biological and gender is socially constructed. Sex refers to an alignment of sex chromosomes, sex determining genes, gonads, external genitilia, internal sex organs, sex steroid hormones, and secondary sex characteristics. Gender, on the other hand, refers to the gestures, attitudes, behaviors, and other characteristics associated with men and woman. Gender is fluid and has changed throughout time and place.

Does God choose to make children with cleft lip/palate, and then intend for them not to seek treatment?

I also would like to remind you that treating one’s child for a medical condition is very different from the concept of political correctness. And there is no evidence to suggest that her parent’s are confused.
 
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