That is news to me. Why don’t you link the site that said such a thing. I tend to doubt what you are saying. JS never referred to himself as the holy ghost. What mormons thought of him after his death would all be a matter of opinion. However, even on the anti mormon sites this has not been mentioned and I do follow the antimormon sites.
I have read about this in Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman and he is still around.
The Mormon PurgeI have read about this in Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman and he is still around.
No excommunication for him.
Joseph Smith was given the gun by one of the guards as a way to protect himself. I think that it was awfully nice of the guard to do so. It was basically a pea shooter…no match for the mob. Did he fire it? Yes, he did. You forget that the mob killed his brother before they got to Joseph. Also, John Taylor was also shot. JS defended himself as best as he could. No one knows if anyone was hit by any of JS’s bullets, as far as I know.
You need to read just how the excommunication proceedings work. It is not so simple. It happens at the local level through a Bishop’s Court. Salt Lake has very little to do with it. And one can defend oneself if one wishes.
not exactly. it depends on the situation. melchizadek priesthood holders are usually tried by the Stake High council with the final decision made by the Stake President.
Joseph apparently hinted to- or told some people that he was the incarnation of the Holy Ghost. Some of the young girls that he pressured into “marrying” him wrote in their journals and letters that Joseph had revealed to them his “true identity” and that after knowing who he really was, they could no longer refuse his advances. It’s good to be the Holy Ghost!
THe bishop is informed and if the holder is of a higher priesthood, the stake president is then informed. But all this is at the local level. Salt Lake does not interfere in such cases unless they are ask to interfere. And this can happen if requested by the excommunicant.
Joseph Smith was in prison to answer various charges and polygamy wasn’t one of them. I believe if I remember correctly he was in prison for destroying the printing press that was violently antimormon. The one and only issue was printed to inflame the local surrounding community against the mormons. It was a necessary step to safeguard the mormon community and it did just that. JS went to prison and John Talyor and Hyrum Smith volunteered to accompany them. All knew the danger that they were in.
Ok… but I did go to a LDS site…
And how does one know that the site isn’t authorized, or who to turn to if no one on the site says they are not authorized, and someone else is a better source?
So, if you are in a cult, a religion of lies and false beleifs, you should only consult the proponants and supporters of the false beliefs? This is what all the cults tell their members!
You’ve said this many times her on CA Forums. What is the point??
The point is that Mormons operate on a different standard from Evangelicals and other protestants, who often berate and speak abusively not only of Catholicism but of any other religion they disagree with.
I thought that is what I am doing. Why then do you call that “promoting Mormonism”?
I see. So it is a place for anti-Mormons and Mormon apostates to come and shout abuses at Mormonism (like you are doing right here in this post), but it is not a place for Mormons to defend themselves against such abuse. Fine! That is grate! Who made that rule, by the way? Was it you? Since when did you become the self-appointed board admin?
I could respond to that by calling Catholicism a “cult;” but then I would reduce myself to your level of intelligence competence. I prefer not to get involved in mud-slinging, which is what people like you seem to be fond of doing. I prefer to get involved in real intelligent discussion—something that you are obviously incapable of doing.
I get it. Calling Mormonism a “cult,” a “false religion,” “steeped in the occult,” “crass and sinful lifestyles,” . . . (all the names you have called the Church or its founders in this post alone), without producing a single line of rational argument, is not “Mormon bashing;” but when Mormons merely defend themselves against such false accusations; or when they show similar or worse errors in the Catholic Church; they are “promoting their own religion”. That is the extent of your twisted logic.
aah but it’s okay for the LDS church to canonize Joseph Smith’s statements that all other churches are false and that their creeds are an ABOMINATION! mormons including zerinus refer to Christians as “apostates” because of their “great apostasy” theory. sure they say Christian churches have good people and do good things but they are all misled. (except for the ones who don’t say mormonism could be true…those are “anti-mormons” and should be shunned) I also question the double standard they use that everyone who comes into their church is a “convert” but everyone who leaves it is an “apostate” and should be ignored as they are incapable of believing any other religion or being sincere in joining another church. these are cultish tactics.