2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

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estesbob said:
Sounds good to me!
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That was too easy.
  1. Are you making the same promise to your top ten campaign donors?
  2. Will you cut my pension after the department is abolished?
If so, you are an accomplished politician and I may vote for you anyway.😃
 
TO THE MODS:

Could we please impose a blackout on presidential campaign news? It’s bad enough that there is such news six months before the 1st primary (itself ten months before the election).

TO MY FELLOW CAFers:

Boycott election news for reasons above. I have no idea why our Presidential campaigns are so long – is it some cruel trial by ordeal?
Anyway, block all your cable news channels or at least switch to QVC when the political stuff comes on. It will do your blood pressure good.

If you tune back in for the NH primary you will find nothing has changed.
 
Trader said:
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That was too easy.
  1. Are you making the same promise to your top ten campaign donors?
  2. Will you cut my pension after the department is abolished?
If so, you are an accomplished politician and I may vote for you anyway.😃
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As Secretary of Treasury, I would recommend abolishing federal pensions.
 
Trader said:
Can I be Secretary of Education? I want to abolish it as a cabinet department anyway, so I can just retire on a federal pension. 😃
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You’re in! 🙂

The savings of you closing the department would be worth the cost of your pension.

Next?
 
irishpatrick said:
You’re in! 🙂

The savings of you closing the department would be worth the cost of your pension.

Next?
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Cool! If I got bored in retirement, maybe I could apply to be Secretary of Energy. I would close down that sucker too, but asking for a second pension would be greedy.😃

I would consider accepting a bonus for doing a good job of cutting that waste from the budget. :D:D
 
Trader said:
Cool! If I got bored in retirement, maybe I could apply to be Secretary of Energy. I would close down that sucker too, but asking for a second pension would be greedy.😃

I would consider accepting a bonus for doing a good job of cutting that waste from the budget. :D:D
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One extra pension would be worth it…hey you could be known as the pension grabber who helped saved the nation! 🙂
 
These accusations that certain candidates like Perry or Bachmann are anti-Catholic really ought to be thought through by those making them. There is no substantial basis for saying it, other than the fact that, in effect, ALL protestant faiths are anti-Catholic.

No matter what, NO Republican candidate even remotely approaches the anti-Catholicism of Obama, the champion of abortion, homosexual “marriage”, economic dependency on government. Those who favor particular Repub candidates (particlarly the Ron Paul supporters) ought to consider that before throwing these accusations around.

Remember, when it comes to distortion of what is, and what is not, Catholic, nobody even approaches what the Democrats are going to represent in 2012. Remember how they all argued that redistribution is so Catholic that it trumps even protecting unborn life?

Keep that in mind.
 
Ridgerunner said:
These accusations that certain candidates like Perry or Bachmann are anti-Catholic really ought to be thought through by those making them. There is no substantial basis for saying it, other than the fact that, in effect, ALL protestant faiths are anti-Catholic.

No matter what, NO Republican candidate even remotely approaches the anti-Catholicism of Obama, the champion of abortion, homosexual “marriage”, economic dependency on government. Those who favor particular Repub candidates (particlarly the Ron Paul supporters) ought to consider that before throwing these accusations around.

Remember, when it comes to distortion of what is, and what is not, Catholic, nobody even approaches what the Democrats are going to represent in 2012. Remember how they all argued that redistribution is so Catholic that it trumps even protecting unborn life?

Keep that in mind.
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I haven’t seen a single Ron Paul supporter make a single “anti-Catholic” accusation against any other candidate. My issues lie in the substance of their political leanings. I could care less about their religious affiliation, other than the fact that they indeed have one. I could never vote for an atheist. I’ll leave it to the Obama supporters to vote for a person who thinks he is the savior of humanity. I already have one. I want a President who knows what a balance sheet and cash flow statement looks like.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
I haven’t seen a single Ron Paul supporter make a single “anti-Catholic” accusation against any other candidate. My issues lie in the substance of their political leanings. I could care less about their religious affiliation, other than the fact that they indeed have one. I could never vote for an atheist. I’ll leave it to the Obama supporters to vote for a person who thinks he is the savior of humanity. I already have one. I want a President who knows what a balance sheet and cash flow statement looks like.
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I apologize for any offense given. My comment about Ron Paul supporters was motivated by the fact that I have seen Ron Paul supporters (including on here) at least suggest that if their candidate was not the nominee, they would refrain from voting or write him in or support a third-party candidacy on his part. To those who consider him perfection, I can only say that, at a point, perfection can be made the enemy of the good. None of the leading or likely Repub candidates, with the exception of Giuliani, is an abortion-supporter. None has espoused anything suggesting the kind of ruinous economic policies so beloved of the current resident of the White House.

Yes, I think vigorous debate prior to primaries is a good thing. But sometimes I think some can be so devoted to one candidate that they are willing to risk absolute economic and moral meltdown in this country to demonstrate their petulance at not seeing their candidate as the nominee.

That was my concern, and my cautionary statement.
 
I like Michelle Bachman. She seems more sincere than most of the other candidates and I like her backing of the Tea Party. She seems very cool under fire and is pretty classy (not that “classy” is a presidential necessity).
Romney might be the front runner and I’d vote for him (or for anyone else pretty much) who’d keep Obama from a second term. But Romney seems like a consumate politician to me. Too smooth and not down to earth.
 
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Enjoying the discussion. I learn more here than from the news. 👍
 
qui_est_ce said:
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Enjoying the discussion. I learn more here than from the news. 👍
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I’m trying to catch up as well, having been hors de combat for more than a month. Hoping to be back in the fray as soon as possible. 😃
 
These accusations that certain candidates like Perry or Bachmann are anti-Catholic really ought to be thought through by those making them. There is no substantial basis for saying it,
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In Perry’s case there is plenty of substantial basis.

religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/07/rick-perry-and-the-megapastors.html
Hagee has said that Hitler was God’s instrument to create a Jewish state, that the Catholic church is the “whore of Babylon” and he preaches an end-times theology that anticipates bombing Iran… Perry knows Hagee and has visited his church.
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with the exception of Giuliani, is an abortion-supporter.
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Funny you should say that, guess who endorsed the Ghoulster in 2008?
washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/rick-perrys-ace-in-the-hole-rudy-giuliani/2011/07/19/gIQAOfQyNI_blog.html
Perry was the only Republican governor in the country to endorse Giuliani’s presidential campaign in 2008
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Oh yeah, Perry also endorsed Al Gore in 2004.

Perry is a warmonger snake in the grass.
 
estesbob said:
. I voted for Romney but anybody on the list but Giuliani is acceptable to me.
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Mitt Romney is a Mormon.
He believes the book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible.
Also God the Father has a body of flesh and bones, Doctrine of covenants 130:22
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit babies, Mormon Doctrine, p.516
All of this infomation can be found on the net.
Mormonism is one of the largest cults in the world.
why would any Christian vote for a Mormon?

bluelake
 
StevenFrancis said:
Can someone pm me off this thread as to why Paul, Perry, and especially Romney are such popular Catholic choices? Sincerely. I’m a little baffled at the lack of response for Bachmann, Gingrich and Pawlenty over these as pro-life/defense of marriage canddates and did Santorum drop out? I have him tied with Bachmann as a targeted enemy of NARAL. The lower a rating that NARAL gives a candidate, I would guess, the better they’d be for our morality crisis.

Im not an economics freak. I know it’s important, and I have teetered on the high wire between scraping by and poverty most of my life, no matter who was president, so I’m willing to bet a dime that it just really doesn’t matter all that much with the administrations. That the economy is independent of the white house and more centered in Wall Street, Beijing, Tokyo, London and Zurich. Presidents luck out and preside over robust economies, or failed economies. The congresses that they get stuck with have some effect I suppose. Anyway, I leave that to people a lot smarter than I. Jesus Christ ensures me that I shall never go without food, clothing or shelter. That’s good enough for me.

I therefore look to a persons moral character. What they believe. Truly and deeply in their hearts about natural law values. Are they of God or Satan at the core. With that in mind, Bachmann and Santorum seem the best choices followed by Gingrich, then Paul and a couple others.

I know it’s early, and all this will change a million times, but I sure do get worried sometimes that the party is heading for somebody like Romney over someone like Bachmann. I’ll be doing a lot more study, of course over the next few months, as I hope everybody will.

I’m especially curious about “Perry”, who I’ve heard virtually nothing about, and seems very popular. What’s a good unbiased resource to read about him? Is he a candidate? Any help appreciated. PM’s please so this thread doesn’t go off the rails.

God’s love

Steven
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Young people seem to consider good looks a plus. Romney is a handsome man, however he doesn’t know who God is.
Backman is a Christian, but I for one am hesitant to vote for a woman. the reason doesn’t matter, young folks again would vote for her only because she is a female.
How many people between 18 -30 really pay attention to politics? 🙂
My guess is 10% And that is because they are forced to for some reason.
At the age of 18? Do you really think they know anything about the person they vote for? Their folks problably tell them who to vote for.
If your in this age group I would love to hear your opinion.

God bless,
bluelake
 
livnlern said:
I like Michelle Bachman. She seems more sincere than most of the other candidates and I like her backing of the Tea Party. She seems very cool under fire and is pretty classy (not that “classy” is a presidential necessity).
Romney might be the front runner and I’d vote for him (or for anyone else pretty much) who’d keep Obama from a second term. But Romney seems like a consumate politician to me. Too smooth and not down to earth.
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Mormons have wanted a Mormon to run for the presdidency ever since Joseph Smith started this cult.
Look up Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, Orson Pratt on the net. (Journal of Discourses)
Know who you vote for.
May I add, Mormons are very nice people. Have you had two young men knock on Your door witnessing for the Mormon church? I have. I was preparing my Christian sunday school lesson at the time, so I invited them in and gave them a lesson:) They collected their papers and left as fast as they could . I prayed for them. I hope you will too.

God bless,
bluelake
 
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