2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

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bluelake said:
Mitt Romney is a Mormon.
He believes the book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible.
Also God the Father has a body of flesh and bones, Doctrine of covenants 130:22
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit babies, Mormon Doctrine, p.516
All of this infomation can be found on the net.
Mormonism is one of the largest cults in the world.
why would any Christian vote for a Mormon?

bluelake
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I certainly would before I would vote for Obama. Mormonism is a very small sect, and there is no possibility whatever that it could “take over the country” if Romney is elected. Not that I expect him to be elected, because the left will “Mormon” him to death if he’s the nominee.

By the way, the CIA and FBI actively recruit Mormons because their loyalty to the country is exemplary, and they’re not given to many vices.
 
Ridgerunner said:
You mean in 1988, when Perry was a Democrat, don’t you?

Who should he have supported instead. Jessee Jackson? Gary Hart or Michael Dukakis, maybe?
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I voted for Jack Kemp in the '88 primary. After the stellar success of the Gipper, it doesn't speak well of Perry's judgment that he remained a Democrat for several more years. And his chairmanship of Algore's Texas campaign is nauseating. YES, Gore had become a leftist by '88! I see Perry as a chameleon. Of course, come next November, I'd vote for a guy falling off a bar stool over Obama. PALIN/RUBIO '12!!! :D
 
RACJ said:
I voted for Jack Kemp in the '88 primary. After the stellar success of the Gipper, it doesn’t speak well of Perry’s judgment that he remained a Democrat for several more years. And his chairmanship of Algore’s Texas campaign is nauseating. YES, Gore had become a leftist by '88! I see Perry as a chameleon. Of course, come next November, I’d vote for a guy falling off a bar stool over Obama. PALIN/RUBIO '12!!! 😃
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I agree that “staying too long at the Democrat Fair” is sickening, particularly because I did it myself. I was a “cradle Democrat”. Not a single one of my ancestors had ever been anything but a Democrat. I’ll admit that for a time I just refused to believe that the party had become so devoted to abortion, or that it had taken an irreversible leftward lurch economically. You work hard for a party for years, and it’s just hard to admit to yourself that it was all for nothing and that the party’s change to something really strange and alien is irreversible. You think you can help change it, but eventually the truth sinks in that you can’t.

As you know, there are still people, including people on here, who have not accepted that, make excuses for it, etc. It’s hard to do.
 
bluelake said:
Mitt Romney is a Mormon.
He believes the book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible.
Also God the Father has a body of flesh and bones, Doctrine of covenants 130:22
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit babies, Mormon Doctrine, p.516
All of this infomation can be found on the net.
Mormonism is one of the largest cults in the world.
why would any Christian vote for a Mormon?

bluelake
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Because if he receives a nomination he will have an opponent has no discernible faith and supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand.
 
You mean in 1988, when Perry was a Democrat, don’t you?
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Whoops, typo on my part. Thanks!

Thanks also for pointing out that Perry was (and probably still is) a Democrat!
🙂
Not to mention your concension that yes, Perry is an anti-Catholic.

Amazing the mistakes you war mongers make.

So…Since you acknowledge he’s a Democrat,
Isn’t it odd that so much of Perry’s past pro-abortion senate record has been scrubbed from the net? However we are stil able to find tid-bits of his support of other pro-war/pro-abortion candidates like Gore, or Nosferatu… er, I mean Guiliani?
Really is strange isn’t it?

Though, I doubt you really care much for the babies,
You war propagandist types have a lot of brainwashing to do, don’t you?
😉
 
ChristopherV said:
Whoops, typo on my part. Thanks!

Thanks also for pointing out that Perry was (and probably still is) a Democrat!
🙂
Not to mention your concension that yes, Perry is an anti-Catholic.

Amazing the mistakes you war mongers make.

So…Since you acknowledge he’s a Democrat,
Isn’t it odd that so much of Perry’s past pro-abortion senate record has been scrubbed from the net? However we are stil able to find tid-bits of his support of other pro-war/pro-abortion candidates like Gore, or Nosferatu… er, I mean Guiliani?
Really is strange isn’t it?

Though, I doubt you really care much for the babies,
You war propagandist types have a lot of brainwashing to do, don’t you?
😉
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WHo extended the current wars in Afganistan and Iraq, and then started his very own in Libya? 🤷
 
ChristopherV said:
Whoops, typo on my part. Thanks!

Thanks also for pointing out that Perry was (and probably still is) a Democrat!
🙂
Not to mention your concension that yes, Perry is an anti-Catholic.

Amazing the mistakes you war mongers make.

So…Since you acknowledge he’s a Democrat,
Isn’t it odd that so much of Perry’s past pro-abortion senate record has been scrubbed from the net? However we are stil able to find tid-bits of his support of other pro-war/pro-abortion candidates like Gore, or Nosferatu… er, I mean Guiliani?
Really is strange isn’t it?

Though, I doubt you really care much for the babies,
You war propagandist types have a lot of brainwashing to do, don’t you?
😉
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Pardon me, but you sound like a poster at one of those conspiracy sites like AbovetopSecret.com or GodlikeProductions.com. Would you by chance be one one of THOSE?
Because you sure sound hysterical and abusive like one of them, going on about “warmongering” and all of that.
Just a question. 🙂
 
Ridgerunner,
Thanks for pointing out that — Oops a typo on my part!
🙂

Thanks also for pointing out that Perry was (and probably still is) a Democrat!***
Seriously, it is wonderful when people of your ilk are so gracious as to conceed such a point.

Not to mention your concension that yes, Perry is an anti-Catholic!***

I must say, it is amazing the intellectual mistakes that war mongers make.
Those war mongers really do consider us Christians to be stupid don’t they!

Oh yeah,
I suspect that you are a war monger, do you deny it?

While you squirm on that topic

Since you acknowledge Perry is a Democrat,…
Isn’t it odd that so much of Perry’s past pro-abortion senate record has been scrubbed from the net? However we are stil able to find tid-bits of his support of other pro-war/pro-abortion candidates like Gore, or Nosferatu… er, I mean Guiliani?
Really is strange isn’t it?

Moreso isn’t it odd that a so-called Catholic forum would delete any factual argument against war mongering candidates as “infractions”…
ISN’T THAT JUST PLAIN WIERD?
 
People! We are spending 1.8 times what we take in; EVERY DAY. That is NOT goodly.
Much of this spending is wasted duplication. Much is nonsense such as bombing Libya to help El Quaeda get it’s hands on more oil resources. Most is just more bureaucracy. The point is that cutting our spending seems like, a REALLY good idea.
When we have lowered taxes, revenues have gone up; it follows from that that raising taxes may well DECREASE revenues. Either way, giving the government more money than it absolutely needs is a waste. All taxes have a negative impact on the economy, but some tax is necessary. Closing depreciation for investments in our economy would only lead to even less investment.
Let’s look at the “electable” (like what’s the point) “front runners”. Romney, Perry and Bachmann. Romney was a liberal governor (fair enough, he ran as a liberal, but in 2008, he explained that away by saying that was the stand he had to take to get elected then; so trust him now?!?). Perry, like Romney looks “presidential” (they have really good hair, are tall, etc.) and both are basically democrats. Perry’s history is liberal democrat, to liberal republican to, two years ago, the champion of the NAFTA Highway the mainstream media claimed wasn’t on the planning books. Had it’s own, Texas paid for web site; a really interesting project, if you’re into infrastructure. Bachmann talks a good game, when not wandering off into the either, but her track record does not back it up (she has voted for some really questionable things).
The “terrorist” tea party wanted cuts, the sort of cuts that would have kept our AAA rating, and perhaps, led us to solvency. So they are obviously nuts. Only someone with a proven track record of failure, and being so, so wrong; is worthy of serious consideration by our main stream media. And if the media declares someone “unelectable” so many just take their word for it. Why was Ron Paul unelectable for opposing the war in Iraq, and Barak Obama electable for opposing the war in Iraq?
For nearly 40 years Ron Paul has had a consistant record, and has been consistently right on the main points. He ain’t tall, don’t have good hair, and his voice ain’t nothing to write home about, but he has been consistent AND right. If we want this country to get back on track we need someone like Ron Paul, but there ain’t no one else even close running. If we just want to slide down the slope at a different rate, what’s the point?
It is time for the electorate to tell the media how it is going to be. Speak now, or forever hold your peace.
 
Returning to the “Rick Perry is scary” because of his religion, it may be considered that weekly attendants at religious services of any kind have 2.1 more children per woman than people who don’t. Such people can help reducing the dangers of "demographic winter’ that, but for immigration, we would be facing. Even with immigration, it takes those religious folks to keep the population at replacement.

Interesting, too, that there is a direct correllation between the number of abortions and the number of immigrants, but with a predictable 20-25 year lag between the first and the second. In other words, we replace the killed unborn with immigrants…just barely. Those who attend religious services weekly also have a very low abortion rate.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Returning to the “Rick Perry is scary” because of his religion, it may be considered that weekly attendants at religious services of any kind have 2.1 more children per woman than people who don’t. Such people can help reducing the dangers of "demographic winter’ that, but for immigration, we would be facing. Even with immigration, it takes those religious folks to keep the population at replacement.

Interesting, too, that there is a direct correllation between the number of abortions and the number of immigrants, but with a predictable 20-25 year lag between the first and the second. In other words, we replace the killed unborn with immigrants…just barely. Those who attend religious services weekly also have a very low abortion rate.
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So, basically, undocumented immigrants are going to save this country from the liberal death machine. Good, at least the ones who are replacing the dying are good, hard working, church going folk.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
So, basically, undocumented immigrants are going to save this country from the liberal death machine. Good, at least the ones who are replacing the dying are good, hard working, church going folk.
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Maybe it will save the country from the death machine. Maybe not. I recently read that the birth rate in Mexico is now below replacement.

Some are good, hard-working, church going folk. Some are not.

I think we’re in a real bind with all of this. The only comfort (if it’s any) is that the rest of the developed world is in such much worse shape. We can’t keep borrowing Mexico’s labor force forever, if its own birth rate is going down. Furthermore, Mexico (I realize it isn’t just Mexico, but it’s the biggest current source) does not adequately invest in the “human capital” it sends here. Other than in the building trades, most have no skills and a very inadequate education. Their life habits are not very good, so their health is at greater risk. So we’re taking on (in the next generation) the entire task and cost of providing the investment in human capital. Meanwhile, the Obama administration makes it harder and harder for Americans to invest in “human capital” in the form of their own, entirely voluntary, contributions to the health and education of their own children. It may be noted, for instance, that the latest ‘budget act" purports to increase Pell grants while reducing the money available for student loans. Perhaps that’s an intended reflection on a greater desire to invest in the human capital that comes to us from abroad, but if so, it also reflects a lessened willingness to encourage individual Americans’ investment in their own children. Those on the low end of the economic scale (where most immigrants are) get Pell grants. Those even a little higher up rely on loans.

But as compared to Europe, which is importing people who are actively hostile to the cultures and ways of life of the natives, at least our illegals are, by and large, Christians whose culture is fundamentally western. Granted, many of our immigrants have been tainted by socialistic notions and absolute cynicism about the rule of law, attitudes generated by the notionally socialistic but actually lawless and predatory societies from which they come. Still, they are not actively hostile to this country for the most part.

It is interesting, though, to think about the following. Undoubtedly, the Democrats believe that the more Hispanics they encourage to come here, the more Democrats they’re creating. And they would be right about that in the short term. But anybody who knows Mexicans and Central Americans, for example, knows they are extraordinarily averse to transferring their wealth to anyone other than family, church and (much less so) their own community. Just astonishingly so…much more so than native-born. In two generations, once they emerge from the orbit of government “freebie” availability, they will probably make Tea Partiers look like howling liberals.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Returning to the “Rick Perry is scary” because of his religion, it may be considered that weekly attendants at religious services of any kind have 2.1 more children per woman than people who don’t. Such people can help reducing the dangers of "demographic winter’ that, but for immigration, we would be facing. Even with immigration, it takes those religious folks to keep the population at replacement.

Interesting, too, that there is a direct correllation between the number of abortions and the number of immigrants, but with a predictable 20-25 year lag between the first and the second. In other words, we replace the killed unborn with immigrants…just barely. Those who attend **religious services **weekly also have a very low abortion rate.
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Scott_Lafrance said:
So, basically, undocumented immigrants are going to save this country from the liberal death machine. Good, at least the ones who are replacing the dying are good, hard working,** church** going folk.
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He said “religious services” not church services. We could be talking about Muslim immigrants here as well.
 
qui_est_ce said:
He said “religious services” not church services. We could be talking about Muslim immigrants here as well.
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Sure.

The birth rate among attendees of weekly religious services is about 2.1 children higher than the average of the particular society, pretty much regardless of what the religion is. Undoubtedly that’s part of the reason why the most popular newborn boy’s name in London is “Mohammed”.
 
qui_est_ce said:
He said “religious services” not church services. We could be talking about Muslim immigrants here as well.
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Or Hindus. I noticed a surprisingly large number of Indians in New York City when I was there early last month.
 
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