A single woman's rant

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I haven’t done this too much, but I really need to rant. One thing I really can’t stand about being a Christian is the fact that it’s almost impossible to be a single woman and a Christian without growing to hate your sexuality. Any itch, any feeling of sexual desire is only a temptation, or an occasion to sin. In other words, the sexuality of a single person is only a gift if it is completely dormant and inactive. It serves no useful purpose. It doesn’t help you find a spouse, it doesn’t help you become a saint.

I know that my sexuality is not entirely useless. It is a cross, and the anxiety, frustration, and the sadness that I feel as a result of it (I’m crying while I write this) invites me to participate in the sufferings of Christ. I know that what doesn’t kill me will ultimately make me stronger, and if my sexuality doesn’t crush my soul, i’ll ultimately emerge a stronger Christian. But how many crosses can I bear? Quite frankly, I don’t know how I can bear this one.

I don’t know if I’m supposed to get married or not, but it just doesn’t seem fair. If I get married, my desires will suddenly become good. But as long as I am single, my desires will remain vile and wicked. Or rather, as Christian teaching has it, my sex drive is good, as long as it doesn’t exist. If it exists, then it’s bad.

What am I supposed to do? I’ve heard that one of the side effects of the Pill is it causes a woman’s sex drive to significantly decrease, and I have to admit, that sounds very appealing. Sometimes I think I should ask my doctor to put me on the Pill, so that my sex drive will diminish. If I can’t make it go away, then at least I can minimize it. I know it’s not a solution, but there is no solution. I HATE MY SEX DRIVE and as long as I am single, Christianity gives me no other choice but to hate it.
I had very bad cramps each month and got on the pill. It killed my sex drive entirely. I prayed that my sex drive would go away and it just so happened I was prescribed the pill for my cramps. The pill made me gain weight, it slowed my immune system and caused me irregular periods and acne when I got off of it. Not to mention studies show that men are less attracted to women on the pill because they release less pheromones or maybe none at all. Let me just say, I hate the pill. It ruined many things for me and even if your sex drive is gone it does not rid you of your desire for companionship.

I would never take the pill again. But I know that since I have been off of it my sex drive has increased so much that I feel it is a problem. It also makes me want to find a husband sooner and it makes it hard to think straight sometimes. I also share your feelings and it makes me dislike this about myself sometimes. I know what your going through. I will pray for you.
 
I agree and disagree with so much you feel.
This rant makes me giggle a little bit.

We are trapped, because to get the sex, we need the committed willful faithful spouse.
An arduous task, indeed!

May the following help resolve this rant:
How do I control my sex drive?:
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    Work on my projects.
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    Go out with good friends in groups.
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    Work, work, work some more.
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    Mostly and mainly, think about the trouble or problems I would have if I allowed that drive to get out of hand.
Many of you already divulged, but anyone else with helpful tips?
 
Great advantages to being chaste:
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    Well Respected (by same faith), I am mocked by ultra liberals and conservative non-Catholics.
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    More time for education/work/nursing/babysitting/leisure.
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    STD Free!
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    No HPV (This is an STD, too, but a big huge problem among the teen population of who I am sensitive in helping and fighting for their cause).
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    No heartbreaks.
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    No attachment problems.
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    Never resenting a bad choice in behavior.
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    Loving God more than yourself or anyone else and feeling it.
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    Following the faith.
  10. NO ABORTIONS!
    This is my top 10 along with so much more…, maybe others have more they can add?
 
Girl you are sooo not alone on this…i myself am a returning catholic, with a child (single mother)

Do you have any idea how hard it is to refrain from sex, once you’ve already HAD it?? lol…and on a regular basis…believe me…easier to refrain from something you’ve never had the pleasure of experiencing…

The only advice I can give you, other than the obvious-prayer, is keep yourself busy. Always, constantly busy…try to keep your mind off it. stay away from friends who have nothing better to talk about other than what guys their dating, what guy ‘looks fine’ etc…I’m not gonna sugarcoat it us women can be just as bad as men…but those kinda impure conversations lead to impure thoughts which lead to…well…im sure your catching my drift…

get yourself a good friend whos got her priorities right, and find other things to focus on together…commit yourself to something, like volunteering somewhere…the busier you are the less time you’ll have to dwell on it…and when you get home you’ll be so tired you’ll just pass out <33
 
Couple tips (a few of which have been said before):
  1. Have good friends who are single and chaste too. It’s so much easier to deal with these desires when you can call up a girlfriend and chat about something else.
  2. Plenty of exercise. My roommate used to go out for a jog with the comment, “I’m taking my libido out running!” When you’re physically tired, those desires fade out a lot.
  3. Wholesome entertainment. I freely admit that 80% (at least) of movies you could be watching aren’t going to help. You have to watch out for books with “those scenes” in them, for websites that will suggest things to you, for acquaintances who can’t seem to talk about anything else. Read a classic work of literature, watch a Jimmy Stewart movie, go play a sport. I can’t tell you how often I have been not thinking about those desires at all, when a billboard or a comment from someone or a book “set me off” and disturbed my peace.
  4. Don’t let yourself get bored. Have plenty of work to do, and plenty of fun too.
  5. If all else fails, take a cold shower.
And, in terms of hope for the future, those desires do have a purpose which you may be thankful for later. I have been married for a month now, and I’m thankful that I am not a robot, that I do have normal desires. But now that I have a happy marriage, I realize that I could never make do with anything else: with a short fling, with satisfying myself, with anything but the committed and spiritual relationship that I have.

Our day and age sure doesn’t help our fallen human nature, but good for you for fighting the good fight anyway.
 
I am single now and I used to have frustrating thoughts about what God wanted for me now. Particularly because I am a parent, but mostly because I feel its Gods will, I do not pursue “finding” someone. I feel that if God wants me to be married again, to experience a real marriage (as my previous one wasn’t what God intended for marriage), then He will bring me someone. And only He knows what is the right time of my life for that.

So I found I was at peace with that being the right frame of mind for me. Yet it was frustrating to wonder if God wanted me to be single *all *the rest of my life. I wished He would just tell me what His plan is for me. But I think He doesn’t tell us the future because He really wants us to live in the “now”.

I realize that how I am to live right now is the same as how I am to live if I am to stay single or to be married ever. And that means, and I am not sure I am going to phrase this right, that in a way I am to live “above” my sexuality. (I realize that my sexuality is my whole personhood as well - my femininity and womanhood, and I celebrate that and delight in that, but I am talking about feeling and thinking about that uniquely marriage-kind of sexuality, that I think you are referring to).

So: I endeavor to live spiritually above that. When thoughts only appropriate to a married state come, I take them to Confession and as I am sure you know - that heals things. Confession truly converts and transforms.

So I keep asking God to renew my mind. And I keep living above that (But it takes a firm purpose in my mind, and a pulling myself back on track if something gets me off, or “triggers” me into an old way of thinking. Ther are lots of known triggers, like when I am tired, or if someone is particularly kind, or is someone is thinking that way and directs their thoughts towards me, you can pick up on that. And other things. This can happen to anyone in any stae in life and we all have to do the same thing - re-direct our thoughts, with Gods help. Confession really breaks this. Sexual attraction may be powerful, but not as powerful as that Sacrament. In a contest, God’s grace in the Sacrament of Confession will always win.

Its very counter-cultural because our culture thinks its normal to think about sex all the time and teaches that something is wrong with you if you don’t. I really think the frustrating feelings I used to have came from this societal pressure. I was afraid I would be turning myself into a freak.

Its a “virginal” way of thinking, and you know, Our Lord especially loves virgins. I think that those living chastely (and those chaste in marriage, too, and by that I do not mean sexless) can soar higher spiritually. Its a gift connected to chasity. I think I am right about that. So I think to grow spiritually you need to get your sexuality subject to God’s ways no matter your state in life.

I find great peace in living “above” it and offering to God my failures on the way and finding His graces always there to renew my mind. It gets easier. I often realize that with the Grace of God I actually can be content to be this way the rest of my life.

I know this: we cannot out-give God. If I give him my sexuality and keep making myself subject to His ways in that area, He will give me back far more than I give him. He does! So I know that with Gods grace, I can do this.

And if someday God brings me someone to be my husband, at that time it will be the same as now, in that I will continue to live one day at a time, and give my thoughts to Him. He will tell me if my romantic thoughts are okay. If the relatinship is fulfilled in marriage, it will be a new awakening that unfolds one day, one moment at a time. I don’t think ht enewness God intended for that can be there with a whole lot of prior thining on it.
 
I haven’t done this too much, but I really need to rant. One thing I really can’t stand about being a Christian is the fact that it’s almost impossible to be a single woman and a Christian without growing to hate your sexuality. Any itch, any feeling of sexual desire is only a temptation, or an occasion to sin. In other words, the sexuality of a single person is only a gift if it is completely dormant and inactive. It serves no useful purpose. It doesn’t help you find a spouse, it doesn’t help you become a saint.

I know that my sexuality is not entirely useless. It is a cross, and the anxiety, frustration, and the sadness that I feel as a result of it (I’m crying while I write this) invites me to participate in the sufferings of Christ. I know that what doesn’t kill me will ultimately make me stronger, and if my sexuality doesn’t crush my soul, i’ll ultimately emerge a stronger Christian. But how many crosses can I bear? Quite frankly, I don’t know how I can bear this one.

I don’t know if I’m supposed to get married or not, but it just doesn’t seem fair. If I get married, my desires will suddenly become good. But as long as I am single, my desires will remain vile and wicked. Or rather, as Christian teaching has it, my sex drive is good, as long as it doesn’t exist. If it exists, then it’s bad.

What am I supposed to do? I’ve heard that one of the side effects of the Pill is it causes a woman’s sex drive to significantly decrease, and I have to admit, that sounds very appealing. Sometimes I think I should ask my doctor to put me on the Pill, so that my sex drive will diminish. If I can’t make it go away, then at least I can minimize it. I know it’s not a solution, but there is no solution. I HATE MY SEX DRIVE and as long as I am single, Christianity gives me no other choice but to hate it.
And if you were not a Christian and you could really go at it… you would be happy and fulfilled?
It’s funny, when I was a teenager and not yet a personal believer I had my first sexual experience and it scarred me for good. I felt I lost my innocense and it tore me apart. It made me resent my body and hate to death the man that had taken advantage of my young naive mind. It took me years to get over it and the nausea it created when i had flash backs. This was not rape… no, it was sexual intimacy outside of marriage, and it made me feel sick to my soul.

Living the secular life with casual sex is for people who are somehow lost in the dark. The ones who really desire love, are not happy with just using and being used.
Sex is the highest, most exposing, display of romantic love. In the position of love making you are totally given over into the hands of a man… you need to be able to trust that he will take care of you, your body, your future and you child if such becomes relevant… How poor is the person who has given the highest utterance of love to any and every man or woman they met.

I think you know that is a fast fix in and off it self. Its like narcotics… nice pleasure, but only for a very short time. Then you are left with the bitter taste.
I don’t refrain from sex because I am Christian or because I am afraid of hell fire. I bear the longing because its directed at real love.
Sex does not excite me half as much as that love does. Love and sex belongs together. And by love I mean comitted, open to life, faithful romantic love. Some player cant turn me on in the right sense.
Also, I would be turned off at the prospect of being sexual with someone who didn’t desire me as his wife.

I say all this as a person in your own situation. I am very ripe for marriage and I am alone… I know no potential Christian guy at the moment.
I too have felt sexual longing… it goes to sleep over time. If you wake it up its a burning furnace in your flesh for a while but then it falls asleep again, so its not a tyrant any more.

Peace be with you. Be strong.
 
This too will pass. When you are young, the desire for sexual intimacy is stronger than when you are older. Other factors though, come into play. When you’re HALT, you are much more susceptible: hungry, angry, lonely, or tired. Be aware of your moods and inner feelings, and take these as warning signs. I’ve found it’s also a huge help to only watch entertainment with positive values. If you really want the soap operas, no one will stop you. but know that you also have the choice to read or watch something more wholesome. The subconscious influence is greater than you think! Reading the Bible and other spiritual books more frequently, as opposed to shows replete with sexual innuendo can help us grow in our desire for God instead of our desire to misuse our sexuality. Sexuality also exists in the Bible, but it’s within God’s plan for our lives. The desire of sexuality for its own sake will lead to a much stronger sexual desire, but by recognizing where it is disordered, you can purify your love for your spouse or future spouse. As to good programs, I’ve found that listening to EWTN radio or other Catholic radio can be very edifying and interesting.
  1. Wholesome entertainment. I freely admit that 80% (at least) of movies you could be watching aren’t going to help. You have to watch out for books with “those scenes” in them, for websites that will suggest things to you, for acquaintances who can’t seem to talk about anything else. Read a classic work of literature, watch a Jimmy Stewart movie, go play a sport. I can’t tell you how often I have been not thinking about those desires at all, when a billboard or a comment from someone or a book “set me off” and disturbed my peace.
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Many single people give up trying to be perfect due to this legalism. They often abandon their faith entirely and fall into a lifestyle of nightclub promiscuity.

If “it” keeps a single woman from destroying herself emotionally worrying herself sick with fear and anxiety then I personally believe “it” is the moral equivalent of failing to hold back a sneeze at the salad bar.
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If you want to come after me, take up your cross. If you want to be my friend, follow my commandments. Jesus isn’t a lovey-dovey peace love and flowers hippy friend. (even though those are all good things!) He offers us so much more.
 
Ok, I’m bumping this thread for a few reasons.

1 I have been having these thoughts again. 😦

2 I was talking about this thread on another thread, even alluding to it, and I decided it would be easier to bump this thread than to derail the other thread.

3 I can see that CountrySinger is online right now, and she’ll love this thread. Enjoy CountrySinger! This is partially for you. 🙂
 
Who called me?

looks around, makes coffee
I love a good rant!
I know the feeling.

And way to make me look like a horn-dog, lol.
 
Who called me?

looks around, makes coffee
I love a good rant!
I know the feeling.

And way to make me look like a horn-dog, lol.
Sorry about the horn dog. But I’m glad you enjoyed, and I figured you could relate.
 
(I realize that my sexuality is my whole personhood as well - my femininity and womanhood, and I celebrate that and delight in that, but I am talking about feeling and thinking about that uniquely marriage-kind of sexuality, that I think you are referring to).
Please pardon my “cutting” your post to the above, but it is, to me, unusually intriguing. I probably can’t address it well, but I’m going to try.

Yes, I have come to the conclusion that our sexuality is an integral part of what God made us to be. It might or might not be expressed as in a romance or a marriage, but it’s there, and it affects those around us, intended or not, in a lot of ways. We often don’t control it well, and even more often don’t understand it, but we need to try.

A long time ago, before I was married, I came to realize, though perhaps a bit hazily then, that my “maleness” could affect women, and not just in a “sexual” or “lust” or even “attraction” sort of way. There were all kinds of aspects to that. Simply being courteous (even overly so); being respectful of a woman for her being a woman. Yes, taking on the “heavier” or “more hazardous” aspect of something. Being dry-eyed but sympathetic if a woman was emotional. Perhaps even being “reckless” so young women could laugh at my “male antics”.

Oddly enough, after being married for awhile, I found that “gender assignment” even more basic to my being a useful person to others besides my wife. I’m embarrassed to admit that I particularly like to compliment women well past my age. I have come to a point where I will unabashedly “misjudge” an older woman’s age, or suddenly remark that she has the bluest (or brownest, or greenest) eyes I have ever seen. I will very quickly take an older woman’s hand in a conversation if she’s wanting comfort. There’s no lust going on in that, on either side of it, but it is not just a matter of a compliment. It’s a compliment from a man, to a woman who has perhaps long ceased to think herself attractive to men in any manner. It would not be the same coming from another woman. That’s a different dynamic. Fortunately for me, my wife “gets it” and actually encourages it, because I keep it in bounds so it’s a “pure gift”. Interestingly, my wife and I sort of complement each other in our attentiveness to others.

But one does have to be careful lest one be misunderstood. If someone is nearer my age or younger, one has to be more vigilant to make clear that it’s “manly courtesy” going on. Not so easy in this day and age when everybody seems to be “hitting on” everybody else.

I have sometimes thought Jimmy Stewart, in the old movies, was the perfect example of that. Courteous, chaste, yet in a way that exuded manhood for what that was worth.

One has to watch oneself as well, whether married or not. One wants to give the right message, not a wrong one.

For women, it’s different. I could not possibly tell a woman how to be a woman with a capital “W” who is chaste and communicates chastity as well as exudes all that’s good about femininity. I just know it when I see it. I have even seen it, quite powerfully, in some nuns I have known. Some of them are “women with a capital W”.

Of course, one could write a whole chapter about one’s gender effect on children, whether one’s own or not. But I won’t.

I’m not sure whether I understood what you intended to say. Hope I did.
 
Lucy, there are many who are in the same boat. The widowed, the ordained, the divorced, teenagers, men, those with sick spouses…

You have a choice in life. You can either be a slave to your body and give in to your desires even without a spouse, which would be degrading and sinful and leave you vulnerable in many ways. Or you can be in control of your heart and your body and guard it the way you would guard something precious.

Do you give in to your desire to eat every time you felt like it? If you did, you’d weigh 600 pounds.

The appetites we have are to keep us alive and to continue our species. Many of us who must be chaste because of life’s circumstances find ways to keep busy, in prayer and find other things to think about. But it’s like being on a diet. You’ll only make yourself miserable if you go by the bakery and stare at the chocolate cake in the window you can’t have. Then you will convince yourself that you are being deprived. Which only makes the cake look more delicious and adds to your feeling of being left out.

You see sexual desire as vile. That’s sad. It’s no more vile than any other appetite. What IS vile is when people give in to appetites in disproportionate amounts or in circumstances that are not moral or fitting.

And marriage doesn’t make it “good.” Married spouses with a disordered view of sex can misuse it and turn an opportunity of grace into something vile. Marriage doesn’t cure the sexual urge. Sometimes married couples have to refrain from relations due to pregnancy, sickness, job separation or other reasons. If you don’t get a grip on your sexual urges before marriage, or you marry someone who hasn’t either, you will not have a successful marriage.

Maybe God is waiting until you are clear on the beauty of that “gift” yourself before He sends someone to you. If you only see it as a troublesome gift that annoys you and will annoy you until you can find someone to give it to, you probably won’t have a very good sexual relationship with your spouse.

Christianity never demands you hate anything about you that God put there. However, our society wants us to think that we are incapable of controlling ourselves and Christianity is the problem. Look around you at the people who don’t try to control their sex drives. Look at the wreckage of their families. Are they happy? Healthy? Satisfied?

Throwing away a gift so valuable because you think it’s a cross is sad.
Okay, I have a rant of my own . . .

Posts like this are not helpful! Our OP is struggling with her singleness, just like every Catholic who has ever been single. She needs coddling, she needs sympathy, not a lecture.

If she came on here every day making a similar post, and went on and on about it, then perhaps it’s time for a lecture like this. But this is not called for.

Okay, I’m going back to reading the thread now . . .
 
See, this is what I’m talking about! The constant anxiety because nothing is allowed, so any moment you might cross the line. The ONLY thing your sex drive provides the single person is an occasion to sin. It’s a terrifying urge, because it can send you to Hell.
Honestly, I don’t believe God is quite as hard on us regarding certain sexual sins (ie. impure thoughts, looking too long at a pretty woman, etc.) as the Church leads us to believe.

In the other thread you posted a response to me on, I mentioned that in confession, the priests spend most of their time talking about sexual sin. Why?

I will tell you this - another priest I have gone to confession for says there are a lot of sins worse than sexual sin, even though in the Church we make it out to be otherwise most of the time.

Yes, I struggle with sexual sin too, and when I do I tell God that hey, you gave me this profound desire, so I think it’s only right, Lord, if you be patient and understanding with me. And I think He is.

I tend to be brutally honest, upfront, and bold with God sometimes. I haven’t yet got struck by lightning, knock on wood. But when I feel like that, I unload. If he is supposed to be our Father, our Spouse, etc., if He is madly in love with us and wants us to express how we feel when we’re down and out, then how can He blame me for doing so? That’s the way I look at it.

Anyway, enough of a tangent; back to the thread . . .
 
Also, it wasn’t until I was able to “let go” about my being single that I met my husband. shrugs
Haha - I’ve heard that from so many people!

And if you let go and God doesn’t call you to marriage, you can pour yourself joyfully in to your single state and do wonders. Jason Evert says the happiest man he has ever met is a 50-something man who has never been married.
 
If you sat all day and said “Don’t think about chocolate cake! I’m not allowed to think about chocolate cake. My mean Creator told me I can never have chocolate cake. I’m deprived without chocolate cake” eventually that is ALL you’re thinking about… chocolate cake.
I have to say, that was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen on the Forum, especially the “mean creator” part. That makes me laugh every time! I’m so glad that you said that, not me. I’d be afraid to say that. I don’t think that’s true, but still, I wouldn’t want to joke about that.

And yes, I am deprived without chocolate cake. Especially the kind they make at Olive Garden. 🙂
 
Wow! Truer words were never spoken. 🙂 This thread really did go in another direction, which is not wholly unsurprising.

Anyway, I appreciate the advice, and that no one chewed me out for needing to rant. I’m usually ok with simply writing rants in my journal, but for some reason, I needed people to read this one.
  1. Yes, I was glad when I saw yet another thread degenerate and branch off into something largely unrelated to the original post, because I didn’t have time to read them all.
  2. I am sure that three days after you posted this, you felt better. I have days where I think my single state is a Cross so heavy that it is going to crush and squelch me out of existence. Then, a few days later, I don’t know what came over me. It comes and goes - the vicissitudes of life and of our faith.
 
Yes, I struggle with sexual sin too, and when I do I tell God that hey, you gave me this profound desire, so I think it’s only right, Lord, if you be patient and understanding with me. And I think He is.

I tend to be brutally honest, upfront, and bold with God sometimes. I haven’t yet got struck by lightning, knock on wood. But when I feel like that, I unload. If he is supposed to be our Father, our Spouse, etc., if He is madly in love with us and wants us to express how we feel when we’re down and out, then how can He blame me for doing so? That’s the way I look at it.

Anyway, enough of a tangent; back to the thread . . .
I wish I was that honest with God. But I’m working on it. As I said on another thread, I’ve been praying for a husband and children, and that God would give me the grace to be a good wife and mother, but I would feel guilty about that. I was afraid of admitting to God that that’s what I want, what I really want.
 
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