A teen girl shot by Islamic Taliban

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A 14-year-old girl shot by Islamic Taliban in Pakistan, she was attacked because she is supporting the girls rights for education, but Taliban movement which represent the real Islamic dogma wants to implement Quran (33:33), they don’t want women to get educated which could lead to some of the women exposing the reality of Islam and abandon it.
 
A tree is known by it’s fruit.

The fruit of Islam is rape and murder.
 
May the Lord watch over that poor girl, give her and the others that were wounded in the attack a full recovery, give comfort and peace to her family and friends, and bring the perpetrators of this atrocity to true repentance.
 
May the Lord watch over that poor girl, give her and the others that were wounded in the attack a full recovery, give comfort and peace to her family and friends, and bring the perpetrators of this atrocity to true repentance.
Beautifully said.

In the week since the fourteen-year-old Pakistani girl, Malala Yousafzai, was dragged from her schoolbus and shot by a Taliban gang that “took credit” for it - women in Pakistan have been standing up publicly for the basic human rights Malala was shot for.

American Feminists have been silent about this reprehensible act thus far - seemingly
more concerned and vocal about issues like free artificial birth control at Catholic Colleges.

catholicexchange.com/the-silence-of-american-feminists-is-deafening/ < DATED TODAY

Will they speak up in Solidarity soon? Is their “silence” a signal of American feminist apathy to the Taliban that will embolden them?

They are THIS bold now apparently.

brisbanetimes.com.au/world/taliban-attempts-to-justify-shooting-14yearold-girl-in-the-head-20121017-27pzv.html

Get well Malala! Bless all the doctors.
 
American Feminists have been silent about this reprehensible act thus far - seemingly
more concerned and vocal about issues like free artificial birth control at Catholic Colleges.

Will they speak up in Solidarity soon? Is their “silence” a signal of American feminist apathy to the Taliban that will embolden them?
CaptFun, I realize that some feminist groups can be hypocritical at times, and certainly their priorities are sometimes skewed, however I’m not sure why you’re under the impression that American feminists say nothing over the plight of Afghan women.:confused:

webworkit.com/world/feminist.htm
nostatusquo.com/ACLU/terrorism/terrorism1.html
msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=13923
articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-10-22/news/9810220091_1_mavis-leno-taliban-feminist-majority-foundation
womenforafghanwomen.org/press/enews120101.html
opendemocracy.net/5050/meredith-tax/code-pink-taliban-and-malala-yousafzai
msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=4548
scribd.com/doc/87745740/Charles-Hirschkind-Saba-Mahmood-Feminism-the-Taliban-and-Politics-of-Counter-Insurgency
nytimes.com/2009/08/23/magazine/23FOB-medium-t.html?_r=0#
genders.org/g33/g33_kahn.html
sheikyermami.com/2012/08/03/uk-police-treats-ukrainian-feminists-protesting-sharia-far-worse-than-radical-islamic-headbangers/
feministpeacenetwork.org/category/sheroes/rawa/
rawa.org/28ap00re.htm
now.org/nnt/03-97/global.html
feministezine.com/feminist/international/Taliban-and-Afghan-Women.html
 
Radical feminism had inherited the most evil aspect of the American Know-Nothing Party - anti-Catholicism. Why? Let’s see. They do not even dare to condemn any wrongdoing done by Muslims but if the Catholic Church said something, they jump on it.
 
Red color below is CaptFun commenting on the large newspapers’ takes that lerapt posted
CaptFun, I realize that some feminist groups can be hypocritical at times, and certainly their priorities are sometimes skewed, however I’m not sure why you’re under the impression that American feminists say nothing over the plight of Afghan women.:confused:

webworkit.com/world/feminist.htm
nostatusquo.com/ACLU/terrorism/terrorism1.html
msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=13923
articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-10-22/news/9810220091_1_mavis-leno-taliban-feminist-majority-foundation - small story. Mostly about Jay Leno and wife. Fem group got $100,000 Taliban barely criticized. Nice of Lenos though.
womenforafghanwomen.org/press/enews120101.html
opendemocracy.net/5050/meredith-tax/code-pink-taliban-and-malala-yousafzai
msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=4548
scribd.com/doc/87745740/Charles-Hirschkind-Saba-Mahmood-Feminism-the-Taliban-and-Politics-of-Counter-Insurgency
nytimes.com/2009/08/23/magazine/23FOB-medium-t.html?_r=0# <Almost big time media. But relegated to the NYT Magazine. 2009 article too so not germane here in the strictest sense. It does mention the Taliban negatively, but rather dispassionately as it wonders about whether conservatives like David Horowitz were weighing in to seem more moderate. Today’s article in the Catholic Mag takes the Taliban to task directly and firmly. But wonders where American Feminist support is. In Pakistan they are marching. Any US event like that going on now with publicity from the mainstream media?
genders.org/g33/g33_kahn.html
sheikyermami.com/2012/08/03/uk-police-treats-ukrainian-feminists-protesting-sharia-far-worse-than-radical-islamic-headbangers/
feministpeacenetwork.org/category/sheroes/rawa/
rawa.org/28ap00re.htm
now.org/nnt/03-97/global.html
feministezine.com/feminist/international/Taliban-and-Afghan-Women.html
Hi lerapt. I was citing today’s article that I posted. And which I agreed with (to this point) because of the volume and force of what gets played in the mainstream media.


Haven’t clicked a link of these smaller magazines yet - but I commented on the ***big ones from major newspapers that you posted above. *** Which came up small or not at all DIRECTLY regarding this incident.

BUT thank you for answering a challenge with substance - very refreshing - I can learn that way. 👍

The problem could be the media itself. Even WAY back in my time as a student journalist
(before so-called “advocacy journalism” which could be openly biased or PC as opposed to “just reporting the facts”) our “J” teachers had a dictum.

“A dog biting a man is not news. A man biting a dog is news!” < This meant that the NEWS was really the*** STRANGE ***News. So Boy Scouts helping people played on page H-7 small - and delinquents torturing cats was played big on A-1.

So “women’s rights activists” protesting THIS … I hadn’t heard about until your hard work here. The big “Feminist Stories” of the day have been the HHS mandate, Ms. Fluke suing her Catholic school to help her sin more safely, nuns fighting with the Vatican and pro-life politicians, and Gay Marriage (L-style).

This (shooting story) is one most men are mad about - what cowards! So maybe - no need to convert anyone? Lower on the scale (for the mainstream media’s designated feminist spokespeople) than winning the election 20 days from now?

Today’s big Page 1 women’s story in the New York Times (really!)
nytimes.com/2012/10/19/us/appeals-court-rules-against-defense-of-marriage-act.html?hp - A woman is angry to be taxed on inheritance left her by “her wife”.

There are also page one links to three “women’s” opinion page pieces. All of them examining Mitt Romney, his bindersful of women’s resumes, and his appeals to women voters. No Malala. You must admit, I checked. And if I’d been wrong - I’d admit it.

Rather than spar with you (if we were sparring at all) I’ll say what I’d like to hear.

I call on our government to exercise its influence in Afghanistan and the Karzai government to cease any negotiations with the Taliban. Their coming to power will be a return to the dark ages for Afghan women and indeed all Afghans wishing to be free.
They have not repented of their terrorism and must never have power again.

(I feel so empowered now 😉 )

I now pass the baton to any similar minded woman who’d like to second my motion or even TOP it with better words and edgier attitude toward this despicable injustice. :sad_yes:
 
BUT THE MUSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL PEOPLE… (YAH RIGHT) :rolleyes:
Apparently not the Taliban anyhow. But …

Moral Relativism Man Sez: “Despicable? Yes. But not everyone needs to have western values. And one day Malala may realize that school can be pretty authoritarian too.”

Altogether: "Who are WE to say … ? " :bighanky:
 
In the week since the fourteen-year-old Pakistani girl, Malala Yousafzai, was dragged from her schoolbus and shot by a Taliban gang that “took credit” for it -

American Feminists have been silent about this reprehensible act thus far - seemingly
more concerned and vocal about issues like free artificial birth control at Catholic Colleges.

Will they speak up in Solidarity soon? Is their “silence” a signal of American feminist apathy to the Taliban that will embolden them?
There are so many different brands of feminism out there that blanket statements can be problematical. Some feminist do not support the provision of artificial birth control on Catholic campuses (or public campuses for that matter).🙂
I self-describe as a feminist, have U.S. citizenship, and stand in solidarity with my brothers and sisters who support Malala and other oppressed men and women in Pakistan, here at home, and in other parts of the world. 👍
We are all children of God; may God bless us all. Amen.
 
There are so many different brands of feminism out there that blanket statements can be problematical. Some feminist do not support the provision of artificial birth control on Catholic campuses (or public campuses for that matter).🙂
I self-describe as a feminist, have U.S. citizenship, and stand in solidarity with my brothers and sisters who support Malala and other oppressed men and women in Pakistan, here at home, and in other parts of the world. 👍
We are all children of God; may God bless us all. Amen.
You are quite an eloquent spokesperson jeannetherese. The ones the media picks for us to listen to probably get paid for it though. Bet you are volunteering. 😉

Your blanket statements can be problematical point is well taken. At least in the future I will try to keep the blanket smaller and specify (even when I do have a point - going too far is an error). Closing with prayer … the best ending of all.
 
There are so many different brands of feminism out there that blanket statements can be problematical. Some feminist do not support the provision of artificial birth control on Catholic campuses (or public campuses for that matter).🙂
I self-describe as a feminist, have U.S. citizenship, and stand in solidarity with my brothers and sisters who support Malala and other oppressed men and women in Pakistan, here at home, and in other parts of the world. 👍
We are all children of God; may God bless us all. Amen.
You, are a sane feminist and I salute you. 🙂

In my defense, I had used the words “radical feminism” rather than simply “feminism”.
 
So “women’s rights activists” protesting THIS … I hadn’t heard about until your hard work here. The big “Feminist Stories” of the day have been the HHS mandate, Ms. Fluke suing her Catholic school to help her sin more safely, nuns fighting with the Vatican and pro-life politicians, and Gay Marriage (L-style).

Hi CaptFun,

I can only presume, for all practical purposes, that the reason some feminist groups cry more loudly about the issues you mentioned above is because these are American issues which will naturally affect American feminists more directly than will a culture half a world away. It’s only natural to be more concerned and vocal about that which will influence you personally in your day-to-day life.

I agree that other concerns should replace their obsession with the HHS and the Catholic Church (which is why I stated that I find many of their priorities to be skewed), but at the same time it’s not as though they never pipe up or condemn unjust occurrences in other places. While some feminists can be guilty of turning a blind eye to grievances that do not affect them, it is not really the case here. Yet, while I did choose to negate the notion that feminists are silent, I wasn’t really trying to spar with you - at least not on any level of anger or indignation.👍 I personally have criticized many aspects of radical feminism myself in other posts.
 
Praying for this brave young woman, and for her attackers in the “Prayer Intentions” forum…all are invited.
 
Hi CaptFun,

I can only presume, for all practical purposes, that the reason some feminist groups cry more loudly about the issues you mentioned above is because these are American issues which will naturally affect American feminists more directly than will a culture half a world away. It’s only natural to be more concerned and vocal about that which will influence you personally in your day-to-day life.

I agree that other concerns should replace their obsession with the HHS and the Catholic Church (which is why I stated that I find many of their priorities to be skewed), but at the same time it’s not as though they never pipe up or condemn unjust occurrences in other places. While some feminists can be guilty of turning a blind eye to grievances that do not affect them, it is not really the case here. Yet, while I did choose to negate the notion that feminists are silent, I wasn’t really trying to spar with you - at least not on any level of anger or indignation.👍 I personally have criticized many aspects of radical feminism myself in other posts.
Thanks lerapt. Nice letter. I’ll bet the stuff in my condominium mailbox won’t top it.

May I say too that injustices against women infuriate good men. We don’t like to see our mothers, sisters, daughters, or wives cheated with artificially low pay (in fact even on a selfish level - higher women’s pay probably benefits men too … particularly when its a wife … but when a daughter earns her own money … 😉 that’s good too!).

The media gatekeepers either accidentally or deliberately seem to prioritize women’s news that somehow justifies breaking a commandment or attacking the Catholic Church as
priority ONE. Or is it my imagination? The word “feminist” may be tainted by now too -
as though a pro-life woman would be some sort of fifth column traitor to her gender and a mindless parrot for her church. <an impression I’ve had - put rather strongly but I’ll leave it.

A woman who is a feminist can look self-serving. A man who is (might be too – for different reasons but) can look less so in that he’d be defending another’s rights. Like abolitionists who were white. Or pro-lifers who have already been born! < couldn’t resist.

But standing up for oneself is perfectly fine if one “loves their neighbor” and keeps within the parameters of justice without wandering into the land of revenge, envy, violence or class warfare.

De-fusing the sexual nature and “loyalty” aspects of the argument - one can “hunger and thirst for justice …” and be ok even if the justice longed for is for oneself.

Feminists aside - we can all “strain at gnats” and “swallow camels” if we don’t keep our priorities straight. A local church in my area has had a big ol’ deal which looks to be using church property to discuss the upcoming ballot measure regarding “Capital Punishment.”

Didn’t go. But suspect it was less dialog than “oppose Capital Punishment.” Many good and high ranking Catholics feel that way. But “approving of it in some cases” is not even a sin necessarily per Church law (notwithstanding the counsels of folks like Pope John Paul II).

Here in California no one has been executed in years (gnat). UNLESS one considers abortion … then the Capital Punishment is the elephant in the living room knocking down the Christmas tree and setting fire to the house (or should I have said camel instead of elephant?).

Social Justice is a good thing. Boils down to loving our neighbor when done right. But since I sort of lectured “feminists” on their priorities - I may as well admit that my church (on a small level) can get priorities flipped a bit too.

All this fuss and Charles Manson and the death row gang are just safe as they were 🤷 - but innocent children … ah nevermind.

The only good that comes from this shooting of Malala is that its an opportunity for
MOST people to unify in loud protest - and maybe change the Taliban’s mind about the wisdom of such bullying. And other bullies might take note. Silence seems like assent. :mad:
 
Thanks lerapt. Nice letter. I’ll bet the stuff in my condominium mailbox won’t top it.

May I say too that injustices against women infuriate good men. We don’t like to see our mothers, sisters, daughters, or wives cheated with artificially low pay (in fact even on a selfish level - higher women’s pay probably benefits men too … particularly when its a wife … but when a daughter earns her own money … 😉 that’s good too!).

The media gatekeepers either accidentally or deliberately seem to prioritize women’s news that somehow justifies breaking a commandment or attacking the Catholic Church as
priority ONE. Or is it my imagination? The word “feminist” may be tainted by now too -
as though a pro-life woman would be some sort of fifth column traitor to her gender and a mindless parrot for her church. <an impression I’ve had - put rather strongly but I’ll leave it.

A woman who is a feminist can look self-serving. A man who is (might be too – for different reasons but) can look less so in that he’d be defending another’s rights. Like abolitionists who were white. Or pro-lifers who have already been born! < couldn’t resist.

But standing up for oneself is perfectly fine if one “loves their neighbor” and keeps within the parameters of justice without wandering into the land of revenge, envy, violence or class warfare.

De-fusing the sexual nature and “loyalty” aspects of the argument - one can “hunger and thirst for justice …” and be ok even if the justice longed for is for oneself.

Feminists aside - we can all “strain at gnats” and “swallow camels” if we don’t keep our priorities straight. A local church in my area has had a big ol’ deal which looks to be using church property to discuss the upcoming ballot measure regarding “Capital Punishment.”

Didn’t go. But suspect it was less dialog than “oppose Capital Punishment.” Many good and high ranking Catholics feel that way. But “approving of it in some cases” is not even a sin necessarily per Church law (notwithstanding the counsels of folks like Pope John Paul II).

Here in California no one has been executed in years (gnat). UNLESS one considers abortion … then the Capital Punishment is the elephant in the living room knocking down the Christmas tree and setting fire to the house (or should I have said camel instead of elephant?).

Social Justice is a good thing. Boils down to loving our neighbor when done right. But since I sort of lectured “feminists” on their priorities - I may as well admit that my church (on a small level) can get priorities flipped a bit too.

All this fuss and Charles Manson and the death row gang are just safe as they were 🤷 - but innocent children … ah nevermind.

The only good that comes from this shooting of Malala is that its an opportunity for
MOST people to unify in loud protest - and maybe change the Taliban’s mind about the wisdom of such bullying. And other bullies might take note. Silence seems like assent. :mad:
That was quite a rant. Might I suggest taking a breath and maybe count to ten? 😉
 
Member EmperorNapoleon, do you have any doubt about that…😉

Extremist Muslims = Orthodox Muslims, (i.e., following Islamic dogma 100%), (e.g., Clerics, Imams, Alqaida, Taliban, Muslims brotherhood movement, Hamas group, etc).

Majority Muslims = Nowadays Muslims, (i.e., following Islamic dogma 50%-80%), (e.g., Muslims living in Islamic countries or in western countries).
 
Her story was on the news again yesterday and she’s fortunate to be in stable condition.

“The militants have issued death threats against news organisations that report on Malala, blaming them for stirring up global interest in her cause.” Asia Pacific News
 
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