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_Abyssinia
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Checked the website here and it does say ‘Location: Malaysia’
hostadvice.com/tools/whois/#http://www.prolifeantiwoman.com/
Does that mean the country the website was created in?
An anonymous woman has sparked debate by asking pro-life advocates to donate $1.3 million to halt her abortion procedure
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hostadvice.com/tools/whois/#http://www.prolifeantiwoman.com/
Does that mean the country the website was created in?
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InNomineDomini
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Well said and Amen.
I also find the commentary from this woman quite fascinating, especially the parts about women being “controlled” by the “religious right”.
Ironcally enough, I see “her” whole gesture as nothing more than an attempt at (emotional) control.
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ComputerGeek25
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Web site can be created anywhere and uploaded to a machine on the other side of the world. This specific website looks like it is hosted on a machine in Malaysia. It also looks like their DNS servers are in CHINA.
For example, I developed a web page, and the machine it is on is in New York City. I host my DNS is San Francisco.
One has to wonder why someone in the US would host a website like that in Malaysia. There are plenty of more reputable, cheap options stateside. Amazon Web Services, Digital Ocean, Dreamhost ti name a few.
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Path_Finder
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That is truly interesting, Dylann Roof’s server actually was in Russia. I can’t tell the whole significance of such things.
renewamerica.com/columns/kincaid/150624
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lax16
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I’m in.
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Birdpreacher
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This is sickening, if true.
Having said that, kids cost money, we can’t get rid of abortion w/o expanding the welfare state.
Having said that, kids cost money, we can’t get rid of abortion w/o expanding the welfare state.
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Path_Finder
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Does that pertain to fatherless homes and out-of-wedlock births? It’s more like the welfare state created this as this was not as much of a problem before some of these social programs.
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Michael1978
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Yikes.
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pnewton
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While I agree that economic solutions to the problems people face can help in many situations, the idea that the poor cannot have children has never been an issue in any other society. What is broken is our set of priorities that demand a set standard of living for our comfort, not the care of children. Greed is the driving force of abortion, not some misplaced compassion.
This is the only think this sick woman has proven.
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Theo520
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But the FBI says to never pay a kidnapper. She should spend her days in jail.
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Havard
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Well it certainly looks like there is a disastrous correlation. For example…
France pays the most in ransoms:
nytimes.com/2014/07/30/world/africa/ransoming-citizens-europe-becomes-al-qaedas-patron.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
And has the most nationals kidnapped:
france24.com/en/20130220-france-hostages-world-cameroon-nigeria-hollande-terrorists/
If a group keeps paying, they may well be encouraging more hostage-taking.
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TarkanAttila
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Hmm… that is fascinating.
For a different reason, I still think we could/should raise, at least, $100,000 in response to this.
Phil’s GoFundMe campaign does say, after all, if we fail t make $1 million, it will still go to pro-life charity work.
An opportunity to shame someone jumping on the pro-choice bandwagon - even if only to make a quick buck - by showing we would actually give up our money for the sake of something better would still be a good moment for us, I think.
What do you think?
I would agree with this, but there’s one problem:
I don’t think she thinks the child in the womb is a child. Some of these pro-choicers are very ignorant, stupid, and/or crazy. They may not know that the old rhetoric “it’s only a blob of cells” has been disproved.
So, I’m thinking we can demonstrate - to her, and to the whole world - that pro-lifers really do believe it is an human life.
An act of will can be a conversion point for someone. If people would actually be willing to raise $1 million, not for this woman, but in response to this woman’s cry that we don’t put our money where our mouth is, we could prove her and the whole world wrong.
And as I learn more about the story, I don’t think we even have to give it to her to make the same impact. We can give our earnings to real mothers in need, at crisis pregnancy centers, or places like Bethelehem House in my city of Omaha. In other words, I think we just need to raise $1 million * in the name of children* in general. We don’t have to give any of it to her particularly.
[q]This is the same mindset that drives modern western left leaning democracies…[/q]
That being said, I do see you are coming from. And I do agree. If my purpose was simply to pay into an extortion racket, I would certainly be wrong. Some people do misuse social security and welfare as a sort of prepaid extortion racket. But that doesn’t mean it is a bad thing to pay taxes for the people who do actually benefit.
But my concerns are unrelated to this. I simply think this is a good opportunity to get some quick rebound from the past week, and perhaps demonstrate that Christians are really, at heart, willing to put up or shut up. We could do this at any time. We fundraise for pro-life causes now and again, anyway. But I think we could get the extra “aww”
factor from responding so generously to what would appear possibly to be a scam.It would show that selfish trollops really can bring the best out in us, rather than the bickering old person in us.
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stinkcat_14
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What law is she breaking? What outcome is better for her child, to pay her or not pay her?
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phil19034
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Then we don’t pay her… we offer the money to her child.
And note that we are calling her bluff. That we are doing this because we Pro-Lifers actually DO CARE about the born children.
I’m sick & tired of the left saying we don’t care about the children once they are born. This swine is tying to “prove” that we don’t care.
I say we call her evil bluff: gofundme.com/yb7yd5ng
I disagree with the premise of the question.
There is no evidence that there is a child’s life at stake.
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TarkanAttila
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Exactly! This is to prove we’re pro-life, not that we believe this person.
And besides, we don’t “fail” to prove it if we don’t make $1 million. We don’t “fail” to prove we’re pro-life if we don’t raise a single cent. It’d just be really, really cool if we could do it.
It’s analogous to CS Lewis. We cannot definitely prove he’s in Heaven, because he died an Anglican. That doesn’t mean he is in Hell, though; it just means we can’t prove it. Ah, but if he had converted to Catholicism, it just might have been possible to prove it!
It’s disappointing not to see a cent yet. Expect to see $10 from me tomorrow from me; I just need to get a greendot card. My current card isn’t working for some reason.
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Crown_of_Stars
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The anti-life/ pro-abortion side are hypocrites. They are anti-family, anti-life, anti-child, anti-woman all in one. They are incapable of knowing good from evil, and, in fact, get them turned around. If I hear the term “Anti-woman” in relation to pro-life ever again, I will scream. Which I am likely to do until the end of my days…
Just to add, that I wouldn’t believe whoever this creep is. Like one poster said, “she” could very well be a man, a group of teenagers, etc. You can’t know. Besides which, even if this is real, I still wouldn’t trust it. How would getting millions keep her from having her baby killed? She would take the money, and still get the abortion, I’m pretty certain.
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TarkanAttila
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Although I now ask the question… why is she starting on the 7th of July, if she made this site because of a three day waiting period?
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silver_moon
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Even if she is real, she could take the money, get the abortion, and then later announce she had a miscarriage. She does say if she gets the money, she’d have the baby, but there’s no guarantee of a live birth.
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