Another man dies in police custody after disturbing video

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These riots lasted MONTHS — MONTHS! – and they worked. The Lees moved out in 1933.⁠
So, do you approve of that sort of demonstration, or is it only okay when accompanied by arson and robbery?

I guess you would know better than I. I was blessed to grow up in an area without all this racial tension, perhaps leaving me ignorant of what other parts of the country dealt with.
 
I’m confused. I thought the race-related problems we were experiencing were a product of Obama being president – he “stoked the racial fires.” Why, then, is this happening under Trump?
 
. And to be honest, I just don’t like people treating him as a hero. That’s why I brought it up.
Like all great men he had major flaws. His Gandi-esque method of protest proved to be effective in making necessary societal changes (unlike Kaepernick)
 
A more complete understanding of riots in these cases. It is just a killing in the end with no accountability
 
However long Black Americans have waited for equal justice and total liberty, they will have to wait that much longer if violence erupts. I can liken this waiting to Americans who are anxious to open up the economy which was shut down due to the pandemic. (Before you pounce, I realize that the waiting period is much shorter in this case, but it feels like an eternity to some.) But if the economy opens too soon, the virus will resurface in a second wave and the waiting period will be that much longer.

I know it is so easy to say wait a little longer if one is not a member of a group that is the target of oppression. Although I am not personally affected by discriminatory practices (that I know of), I do belong to a group of Americans that has had a long history of discrimination and persecution. True, Jews were not enslaved or lynched in the United States in the way African Americans have been, but we have had quite a troubled past overall due to the prejudices of other groups. Yet I do not advocate violence in any country to solve my group’s social problems. It has certainly not helped in making Israel more secure with any kind of lasting peace. Only by negotiation and compromise, and, yes, the ultimate liberation of the Palestinian people, can Israeli Jews ever feel secure in their own country. It is of course a daunting challenge, particularly since many feel that the Arab nations are bent on Israel’s annihilation. However, it is the ONLY way to achieving a lasting peace. Likewise, Blacks must work together with Whites to achieve a lasting peace and maybe even, in time, goodwill toward one another on a human level. Nothing of any lasting value is achieved by short-term quick fixes.
 
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Good news! The police office, Derek Chauvin, has been arrested for the murder of George Floyd. I hope this will calm the city a little. (It is my city.)
I have a feeling if he had been arrested right away, the riots might not have happened.
It was more importantly that he be arrested justly so as to not allow a procedural dismissal.
If people condemning these riots aren’t equally condemning the police violence…
If you read the first part of this thread, you will find that condemnation of the police involved was the very first thing to be condemned. No one is supporting that guy, nor the three with him that refused to intervene to protect one in need of protection. They are rightly fired and the one who killed Floyd is rightly facing murder.
Rioting gets results,
False correlation fallacy. That arrest was going to happen if no one said a word, once there was the video of the crime.
All of them, as a whole.
Racism at its worst.
“The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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and here we are, all over again.
And where are we? If the question is how long until black men never face an unjust death at the hands of a police officer, then the answer is forever, as it would be for all humanity in a fallen world with injustice. There is a lot of injustice and we all face this. However, to think we are back at the beginning is to ignore all the progress that has been made.

I do not find it surprising that in the protest videos we see so many young people. There is a perspective of historical trends that comes with age, or possibly study of history. @Phatmass posted a picture of white people taking to the street to protest a black family moving in. This week we have white people taking to the street to protest this death.
 
I think exactly the opposite; I bet you a paycheck the majority of the protestors didn’t vote for Trump. But why speculate? All we know is the protestors are endangering everyone by acting as COVD carriers, and the media doesn’t to care nearly as much about protestors not wearing masks or staying a safe distance a part.

Anything else is just you or me speculating.
 
And a month later when their newfound wealth is gone in most cases? Great idea.
 
Yes, it’s my and MLK’s view.
Lucyk for the rest of us, this is Catholic Answers, not Balto Answers, and as such, we can just stick to what God actually tells us, thanks.
 
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Anyone who takes a historical perspective knows that we as a nation have made progress in race relations. And that progress was made by non-violent protestations, boycotts, nondiscrimination legislation, and other social justice reforms. We still have a long way to go, but today’s universities are talking more about microaggressions and economic injustices than about discriminatory practices in housing and employment or segregation. The progress was made by Congress, the court justices, the executive branch of government. It was NOT made by rioting, looting, and the burning of businesses. The latter is the sure path to anarchy and destruction, nothing more.
 
And where are we? If the question is how long until black men never face an unjust death at the hands of a police officer, then the answer is forever, as it would be for all humanity in a fallen world with injustice. There is a lot of injustice and we all face this. However, to think we are back at the beginning is to ignore all the progress that has been made.
What if where we are now is actually worse? Overt racism including separate drinking fountains, exclusion from universities, etc. is one thing – and it’s the sort of thing where one knows the rules, corrupt as they might be. But with covert racism, there are no rules and it’s rarely openly acknowledged. Instead its targets live in a constant state of panic and terror, the existence of which many who don’t experience it regularly deny. They’re routinely told not to speak about it because we’re in a “post-racism society” and talking about it is “playing the victim.” While not openly embracing racism, many white people decry incidents like this one – and then do absolutely nothing to ensure the future will be different, safer, for people of color. Knowing your community views you as second-class and that its laws state this clearly is awful. Knowing your community views you as second-class and publicly pretends that’s not its view is a different kind of agony altogether.
 
Back to the topic, I heard on the radio a lawyer discuss this…

Floyd may have had some “pre-existing” conditions but it won’t affect the charges he said…

But the lawyer also said 3rd degree murder and 3rd degree manslaughter in his opinion, was not the best way to go.

Grand Jury would probably have a better outcome in selecting what charges can be made

BUT, the charges can be changed at trial, it sounds like he was saying.
 
What if where we are now is actually worse?
What if most of really ARE “post-racial”?

You think I dont talk about race because I’m a closet racist. And since there is no way for me to prove to you that you are wrong.

In reality I dont talk about race much because I actually LiVE MLKs dream of judging people by character rather than race.
 
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You think I dont talk about race because I’m a closet racist. And since there is no way for me to prove to you that you are wrong.
I never said anything like that – and I never specified that I was speaking of any one member here.

That said, any of us who do nothing to help those being crushed by racism are guilty of being bystanders. Myself included.
 
It was said as a joke. Although not wearing a mask is a Trump habit.
 
What if where we are now is actually worse?
I would ask for data showing that. I had one of the last true lynchings happen near here a couple of decades ago, but only three white men were involved. Two have been executed and a third is serving life for that murder. That is a change. In this latest incident, the officer’s actions have been condemned and is now charged with murder. That too is a change.

Oh, and I do take action. I evaluated this incident with about thirty people who might face this some day. I did not emphasis the officer with the knee to the neck, as that is obviously wrong, but rather the three who did not intervene, emphasizing instead the serious error in not having the guts to intervene. There is a duty to the suspect, the one in custody, to protect his life, even if it is your best friend that is violating his rights.
 
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