Anti-Catholic Whoppers

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Oh ya, one guy told me that the Catholic Church funded the holocaust…

Bad historian. He’s confusing the Holocaust with the Inquisition.

Sizewise, like comparing elephants with ants. 😉
 
Here is one I have been trying to learn about. It is a whopper.

Catholics don’t want anyone to read the Bible! They killed the hero William Tyndale! All Tyndale wanted to do was translate the Bible into English so that everyday people could read the Bible! This made the Catholic Church so angry they killed Tyndale!
 
I think it goes beyond that. Its twists true events to say something entirely different. Its "bearing false witness".

Tyndale wanted to use the Bible to teach his own theology, which he did in the forward and footnotes. There ALREADY WERE English versions of the Bible for everyday people, put forth by the Catholic Church. So “getting a readable version to the people” could not have possibly been his sole motivation, since the people already had other choices for this same purpose. Apparently, he wanted to sell the people a little “something extra” - not just scripture!.

The Catholic Church - and apparently the Church of England as well, since it was the Church of England (or the English government - haven’t figured this out yet, but it was under Henry VIII) - wanted to protect people from heresy, from Tyndale’s false theology and anger rants (printed in his “Bible Translation”, in the Introduction) against the Catholic faith. And from a bad translation of the Bible.

And the Catholic Church did not kill Tyndale, and to say so bears false witness. So, its not only a reductionist and simplistic view - but also a LIE. Or, as we say, a “whopper”.
 
sedonaman said:
My father got this from his anti-Catholic co-workers:

“There is a TOP SECRET plan in the Vatican to ____________________.” [Fill in conspiracy theory.]

[If it is TOP SECRET, how did the conspiracy theorist know about it?]
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This is a good point. I’m going to hang on to that if you don’t mind. To the Good Quotes file, away!

Anyway, one of the silliest ones I’ve ever heard was that priests wear robes… wait for it… To hide their demon tails! :eek: :rolleyes:
sedonaman said:
So were other fictional stories. In 1981, there was a made-for-TV movie based on a fictional story, The Winds of War, but the claim can be made that it too was “based on fact”:
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You see? While the main story was fiction, we can say it was “based on fact”.
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Yeah, but on the first page of the book (before Chapter 1 starts) it says that all depictions of secret societies and artwork are accurate.

Oops. 🤷
 
105lynne said:
I live in the “bible belt”, so I’ve heard it ALL! The most bizarre thing I’ve EVER heard is that Catholics secretly sacrifice chickens and sheep during Mass. I have no idea where that particular person heard that one!
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I’ve got one even worse than that! While visiting a Baptist church with a friend, the preacher told the congregation of tunnels that join monasterys to abbeys where the priests and nuns meet to engage in sexual acts. Any infants conceived of these acts are then sacrificed.

I thought I was going to throw up.

How can people make up such ______ ? (I can’t even think of a word for what I want to say that isn’t likely to get me banned!)
 
He preached it as if it was some incredible scoop that had been discovered and was overlooked by mainstream media. Everyone present gasped and shook their heads and murmured in disgust. No one seemed to consider how utterly ridiculous such accusations were. No one seemed to think, “Hmmm, if this were true, wouldn’t someone be trying to expose it to the world?” I mean seriously, if any of them heard that some puppy farm was abusing dogs, they would call the investigative reporters to go undercover and expose the cruelty.

I just don’t understand how people can accept such things as true.
 
linebyline said:
This is a good point. I’m going to hang on to that if you don’t mind. To the Good Quotes file, away!
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File away!
Anyway, one of the silliest ones I’ve ever heard was that priests wear robes… wait for it… To hide their demon tails! :eek: :rolleyes:
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I vaguely remember hearing this when I was a kid.
Yeah, but on the first page of the book (before Chapter 1 starts) it says that all depictions of secret societies and artwork are accurate.
Oops. 🤷
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I’m going to pose the economist’s question here and ask, “Accurate compared to what?” Compared to what the artist and author are trying to say, or reality? Consider a picture drawn by a 3-year-old. It is “accurate” in his eyes.
 
cthulhubryan said:
I know, it is just that it also hurts the case of Pius XII who did in fact do so much during the war.
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It’s a little discouraging to have to explain what was going on so much.

Also, how did the Tiber swim meet go? Still testing the waters?

-Prophesy
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
I don’t know…I was fine with my decision to leave the Church…good riddance I thought.

Now I’m back! Just finished full confirmation and my husband converted. Ironic to have all our misconceptions fall away at the right time…
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My point isn’t that people who aren’t uptight about leaving the Church would never come back. The point is that percentage-wise, I think people who are on the “fit” about leaving the Catholic Church would return in greater percentages than those who are out of the Church and contented about it.

I returned myself even though I was not uptight about leaving. In my case is was no more than wanting to go to Church twice a week instead of once and the closest church with the best schedule for that extra Church service happened to be Catholic. Once I was back in a Catholic Church I wanted to come back more and more often.
 
babylonsfalling said:
My point isn’t that people who aren’t uptight about leaving the Church would never come back. The point is that percentage-wise, I think people who are on the “fit” about leaving the Catholic Church would return in greater percentages than those who are out of the Church and contented about it.

I returned myself even though I was not uptight about leaving. In my case is was no more than wanting to go to Church twice a week instead of once and the closest church with the best schedule for that extra Church service happened to be Catholic. Once I was back in a Catholic Church I wanted to come back more and more often.
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Richard Cory
by Edwin Arlington Robinson.

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good Morning!” and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine – we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head.
The point. We have absolutely no way to judge another’s “contentment”.
If you truly think these people are “contented”, try being around them when a priest walks by; or worse, when a very Catholic family is involved.
The “comfort” factor is proportional to the distance from the Church.
If they seem contented, sorry friend, that only means that they are comfortable around you.

I spend all day every day talking to non-Catholics, (there simply aren’t any Catholics in this area), and I have to say that it is FAR easier to talk reasonably with a Catholic-hating foaming-at-the-mouth extreme evangelical, than it is to talk to a so-called “contented” ex-Catholic; despite all their protests of peace and happiness.

That’s because it’s like expecting a striker and a “scab” to sit down in harmony. To the ex-Catholic, we who remain faithful are either “deluded” or “stupid” and certainly not to be trusted.

I submit there’s no such thing as a “contented” ex-Catholic. Argue all you want, the bottom line is “contentment” is FAR too relative and subject to far too many external and internal influences to simplify it to anything useful.
 
InspiritCarol said:
Richard Cory
by Edwin Arlington Robinson.

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good Morning!” and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine – we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head.
The point. We have absolutely no way to judge another’s “contentment”.
If you truly think these people are “contented”, try being around them when a priest walks by; or worse, when a very Catholic family is involved.
The “comfort” factor is proportional to the distance from the Church.
If they seem contented, sorry friend, that only means that they are comfortable around you.

I spend all day every day talking to non-Catholics, (there simply aren’t any Catholics in this area), and I have to say that it is FAR easier to talk reasonably with a Catholic-hating foaming-at-the-mouth extreme evangelical, than it is to talk to a so-called “contented” ex-Catholic; despite all their protests of peace and happiness.

That’s because it’s like expecting a striker and a “scab” to sit down in harmony. To the ex-Catholic, we who remain faithful are either “deluded” or “stupid” and certainly not to be trusted.

I submit there’s no such thing as a “contented” ex-Catholic. Argue all you want, the bottom line is “contentment” is FAR too relative and subject to far too many external and internal influences to simplify it to anything useful.
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What does all this have to do with anti-Catholic whoppers? 🤷
 
A Catholics eyes are closer together than a Protestant’s.

Catholics smell different to Protestants.

Catholics believe the first sin was sex.

Catholics get all the jobs.

The reason they re-named streets in Catholic areas in Belfast ‘Dale,’ and ‘Mews’ when they were re-developed instead of the original name ‘street’ is to help Catholics get jobs.

Catholics get everything from the state and Protestants get nothing.

Catholic schools get more money than Protestant schools 'cos the government gives them everything.

Catholics have to have a baby every time they have sex.

Catholic guys just want sex. I had a conversation with a friend of mine about this. She was told when she was growing up it was Protestant guys who just wanted sex. We came to the conclusion that all guys just want sex.

In discussion with a friend about how many heretics were burned by Catholics and Protestants alike, after much denial Protestants ever did anything wrong and much discussion to the contrary she said, ‘Well, the Catholic Church did it first.’
 
InspiritCarol said:
Richard Cory
by Edwin Arlington Robinson.

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good Morning!” and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine – we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head.
The point. We have absolutely no way to judge another’s “contentment”.<–REALLY?!
If you truly think these people are “contented”, try being around them when a priest walks by; or worse, when a very Catholic family is involved.*** <—I’ve been in those situations and so have others. Ex Catholics aren’t being weird every time a priest walks by or even when a family member gets involved. Some do…others get weird even WITHOUT those things happening…but LOTS…MOST in my opinion don’t get weird about it at all. Honestly, you’re turning extremes into norms.***
The “comfort” factor is proportional to the distance from the Church.
If they seem contented, sorry friend, that only means that they are comfortable around you. ***<–So your ARE judging their contentment, even though you said we couldn’t. It appears you’re just judging it DIFFERENTLY than I am. ***

I spend all day every day talking to non-Catholics, (there simply aren’t any Catholics in this area), and I have to say that it is FAR easier to talk reasonably with a Catholic-hating foaming-at-the-mouth extreme evangelical, than it is to talk to a so-called “contented” ex-Catholic; despite all their protests of peace and happiness.**<— I wasn’t talking about those who are making “protests of peace and happiness”. I’m talking about folks who make no issue of their ex Catholicism, whom you wouldn’t even know are ex Catholic unless you ask them. **

That’s because it’s like expecting a striker and a “scab” to sit down in harmony. To the ex-Catholic, we who remain faithful are either “deluded” or “stupid” and certainly not to be trusted. ***No, to some ex Catholics that is true. For others it isn’t true. I never thought my family was deluded or stupid while I was out of the Church. In my area there were LOTS of Catholics and conversely lots of ex Catholics too…I don’t remember ANY of these people saying anything bad about their family’s or anyone else that remained Catholic. ***

I submit there’s no such thing as a “contented” ex-Catholic. ***And on another site I was told there is no such thing as a CONFLICTED ex Catholic. Neither statement is true. We have millions of ex Catholics, the idea that none are contented isn’t credible. ***Argue all you want, the bottom line is “contentment” is FAR too relative and subject to far too many external and internal influences to simplify it to anything useful.

We can make reasonable judgments about other peoples disposition based on their behavior…people have been doing that throughout history. Those judgments are imperfect and don’t bear the authority of God but we can still use out common sense.

If an ex catholic can’t stop going on about their former Church and if he’s got “Catholicism on the brain” even though he’s no longer Catholic, then he’s obviously conflicted and probably not too happy with his decision to leave the Church…especially since he can’t REALLY leave it in the past anyway.

If another ex Catholic behaves the opposite way, then it’s safe to assume they AREN’T conflicted and ARE content. It’s not safe to assume they are only pretending to be content…some people are content being out of the Church. I think it’s an ignorant, deluded kind of contentedness but that still doesn’t mean that they’re secretly uptight about leaving. I was fine being out of the Church for decades and only started returning because of logistical, geographical reasons. Once there, I returned fully because I finally started seeing what I’d been missing for three decades. I know lots of people who left the Church with no hostility.
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