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Who knows?And his reasoning was …?
Who knows?And his reasoning was …?
This is a good point. I’m going to hang on to that if you don’t mind. To the Good Quotes file, away!My father got this from his anti-Catholic co-workers:
“There is a TOP SECRET plan in the Vatican to ____________________.” [Fill in conspiracy theory.]
[If it is TOP SECRET, how did the conspiracy theorist know about it?]
Yeah, but on the first page of the book (before Chapter 1 starts) it says that all depictions of secret societies and artwork are accurate.So were other fictional stories. In 1981, there was a made-for-TV movie based on a fictional story, The Winds of War, but the claim can be made that it too was “based on fact”:
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You see? While the main story was fiction, we can say it was “based on fact”.
That’s hilarious and I’m taking it.
I’ve got one even worse than that! While visiting a Baptist church with a friend, the preacher told the congregation of tunnels that join monasterys to abbeys where the priests and nuns meet to engage in sexual acts. Any infants conceived of these acts are then sacrificed.I live in the “bible belt”, so I’ve heard it ALL! The most bizarre thing I’ve EVER heard is that Catholics secretly sacrifice chickens and sheep during Mass. I have no idea where that particular person heard that one!
File away!This is a good point. I’m going to hang on to that if you don’t mind. To the Good Quotes file, away!
I vaguely remember hearing this when I was a kid.Anyway, one of the silliest ones I’ve ever heard was that priests wear robes… wait for it… To hide their demon tails!![]()
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I’m going to pose the economist’s question here and ask, “Accurate compared to what?” Compared to what the artist and author are trying to say, or reality? Consider a picture drawn by a 3-year-old. It is “accurate” in his eyes.Yeah, but on the first page of the book (before Chapter 1 starts) it says that all depictions of secret societies and artwork are accurate.
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He’s probably the assassin. It explains the early “death”Why not Elvis too?
Because they’re the smart ones. We’re all sheeple.[If it is TOP SECRET, how did the conspiracy theorist know about it?][/INDENT]
I know, it is just that it also hurts the case of Pius XII who did in fact do so much during the war.That’s what a “whopper” is.
It’s a little discouraging to have to explain what was going on so much.I know, it is just that it also hurts the case of Pius XII who did in fact do so much during the war.
My point isn’t that people who aren’t uptight about leaving the Church would never come back. The point is that percentage-wise, I think people who are on the “fit” about leaving the Catholic Church would return in greater percentages than those who are out of the Church and contented about it.I don’t know…I was fine with my decision to leave the Church…good riddance I thought.
Now I’m back! Just finished full confirmation and my husband converted. Ironic to have all our misconceptions fall away at the right time…
Richard CoryMy point isn’t that people who aren’t uptight about leaving the Church would never come back. The point is that percentage-wise, I think people who are on the “fit” about leaving the Catholic Church would return in greater percentages than those who are out of the Church and contented about it.
I returned myself even though I was not uptight about leaving. In my case is was no more than wanting to go to Church twice a week instead of once and the closest church with the best schedule for that extra Church service happened to be Catholic. Once I was back in a Catholic Church I wanted to come back more and more often.
What does all this have to do with anti-Catholic whoppers?Richard Cory
by Edwin Arlington Robinson.
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.
And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good Morning!” and he glittered when he walked.
And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine – we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.
So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head.
The point. We have absolutely no way to judge another’s “contentment”.
If you truly think these people are “contented”, try being around them when a priest walks by; or worse, when a very Catholic family is involved.
The “comfort” factor is proportional to the distance from the Church.
If they seem contented, sorry friend, that only means that they are comfortable around you.
I spend all day every day talking to non-Catholics, (there simply aren’t any Catholics in this area), and I have to say that it is FAR easier to talk reasonably with a Catholic-hating foaming-at-the-mouth extreme evangelical, than it is to talk to a so-called “contented” ex-Catholic; despite all their protests of peace and happiness.
That’s because it’s like expecting a striker and a “scab” to sit down in harmony. To the ex-Catholic, we who remain faithful are either “deluded” or “stupid” and certainly not to be trusted.
I submit there’s no such thing as a “contented” ex-Catholic. Argue all you want, the bottom line is “contentment” is FAR too relative and subject to far too many external and internal influences to simplify it to anything useful.
The Common Cold, a secret Sacrament of the Catholic faith hahaha
-Prophesy
Except the presidency (at least until the 60s).Catholics get all the jobs.
Catholic schools get more money than Protestant schools 'cos the government gives them everything.
Richard Cory
by Edwin Arlington Robinson.
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.
And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good Morning!” and he glittered when he walked.
And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine – we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.
So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head.
The point. We have absolutely no way to judge another’s “contentment”.<–REALLY?!
If you truly think these people are “contented”, try being around them when a priest walks by; or worse, when a very Catholic family is involved.*** <—I’ve been in those situations and so have others. Ex Catholics aren’t being weird every time a priest walks by or even when a family member gets involved. Some do…others get weird even WITHOUT those things happening…but LOTS…MOST in my opinion don’t get weird about it at all. Honestly, you’re turning extremes into norms.***
The “comfort” factor is proportional to the distance from the Church.
If they seem contented, sorry friend, that only means that they are comfortable around you. ***<–So your ARE judging their contentment, even though you said we couldn’t. It appears you’re just judging it DIFFERENTLY than I am. ***
I spend all day every day talking to non-Catholics, (there simply aren’t any Catholics in this area), and I have to say that it is FAR easier to talk reasonably with a Catholic-hating foaming-at-the-mouth extreme evangelical, than it is to talk to a so-called “contented” ex-Catholic; despite all their protests of peace and happiness.**<— I wasn’t talking about those who are making “protests of peace and happiness”. I’m talking about folks who make no issue of their ex Catholicism, whom you wouldn’t even know are ex Catholic unless you ask them. **
That’s because it’s like expecting a striker and a “scab” to sit down in harmony. To the ex-Catholic, we who remain faithful are either “deluded” or “stupid” and certainly not to be trusted. ***No, to some ex Catholics that is true. For others it isn’t true. I never thought my family was deluded or stupid while I was out of the Church. In my area there were LOTS of Catholics and conversely lots of ex Catholics too…I don’t remember ANY of these people saying anything bad about their family’s or anyone else that remained Catholic. ***
I submit there’s no such thing as a “contented” ex-Catholic. ***And on another site I was told there is no such thing as a CONFLICTED ex Catholic. Neither statement is true. We have millions of ex Catholics, the idea that none are contented isn’t credible. ***Argue all you want, the bottom line is “contentment” is FAR too relative and subject to far too many external and internal influences to simplify it to anything useful.
We can make reasonable judgments about other peoples disposition based on their behavior…people have been doing that throughout history. Those judgments are imperfect and don’t bear the authority of God but we can still use out common sense.
If an ex catholic can’t stop going on about their former Church and if he’s got “Catholicism on the brain” even though he’s no longer Catholic, then he’s obviously conflicted and probably not too happy with his decision to leave the Church…especially since he can’t REALLY leave it in the past anyway.
If another ex Catholic behaves the opposite way, then it’s safe to assume they AREN’T conflicted and ARE content. It’s not safe to assume they are only pretending to be content…some people are content being out of the Church. I think it’s an ignorant, deluded kind of contentedness but that still doesn’t mean that they’re secretly uptight about leaving. I was fine being out of the Church for decades and only started returning because of logistical, geographical reasons. Once there, I returned fully because I finally started seeing what I’d been missing for three decades. I know lots of people who left the Church with no hostility.