Any Black Lives Matter Catholics here?

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Now that’s a thoughtful article teasing out philanthropy for individual scorn.
 
You have watched the news over the past few mights of rioting, looting, and burning, right? Good proportion of that was instigated bt BLM/antifa
 
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How come nothing about Whites? Anti-White Racism?
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I don’t really understand statements like this. Someone points out blatant racism by majority group X against minority group Y then someone else chimes in with “what about racism by group Y against group X?”

Can you seriously point to a single instance in American history where whites were discrimated against by a black government? Or where whites were forced to use different facilities than blacks? Or where whites were enslaved and considered subhuman?

I don’t really think so. I would be perturbed if you tried. The issue here is a history of racism by a white majority against black Americans. ALL Catholics should stand up against ALL kinds of racism, but to insinuate that groups suffer from equal amounts of racism is dishonest. Whites do NOT and have never suffered from the same amount of racism as blacks in America, not by a long shot. It is honestly disturbing that instead of acknowledging the problem, some people would prefer instead to either (1) attack anti-racism groups because they would prefer racism issues be swept under the rug and continue to pretend to exist in a country where racism is not an issue, or (2) go on the defensive and feign (or genuinely feel) outrage at the lack of anti-racism activism for their own majority groups.

Whites have never suffered from the same history of discrimination that blacks have suffered from in America, hence, black anti-racist movements are more prominent than their white counterparts. One can’t be a member of a privileged majority then attempt to play down the suffering of minorities and continue to call themselves anti-racist. Pretending that White Americans have experienced the same suffering that Black Americans have and that black anti-racism groups are “divisive” and “of Satan” is insidious and indicative of a desire to put down anti-racist groups, perhaps to defend the status quo and the hegemony of the majority group.
 
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Whites have never suffered from the same history of discrimination that blacks have suffered from in America, hence, black anti-racist movements are more prominent than their white counterparts. One can’t be a member of a privileged majority then attempt to play down the suffering of minorities and continue to call themselves anti-racist. Pretending that White Americans have experienced the same suffering that Black Americans have and that black anti-racism groups are “divisive” and “of Satan” is insidious and indicative of a desire to put down anti-racist groups, perhaps to defend the status quo and the hegemony of the majority group.
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Eloquently stated, factual in nature as proven by what is playing out before our eyes in the U.S., and right here. 👍
 
I sympathize with the aims of BLM.

On the other hand, I also believe that most police are good people doing a good job so it’s hard for me to take a more globally condemning stance against law enforcement.

Certainly big changes need to be made in the criminal justice system.
 
Seems to me the most effective way to show that black lives matter is exactly what is going to happen. This officer will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. Some of the others will spend a very long time there, their careers ruined and with a target on the backs for the rest of their lives.
At least one of those “participant” cops will be murdered in prison. At least one.

I would say that’s going to be a lot more impressive than encouraging Catholics to give money to organizations about which they know nothing but have impressive-sounding names, or to (again and again) hold training sessions in which people are supposed to develop tolerant attitudes they probably already have or they wouldn’t attend in the first place.

As to racial fears, white people do have them. And they’re at least as justified as black fears of police. More so, in my judgment, because they’re more predictable. Ultimately, it seems to me, prosperity of the working class is the only good answer to that.
 
How nice. You think your fears outweigh that of a group of people who have been actively persecuted, enslaved, and at times even murdered. Silly black people. Don’t you see white Americans are victims, even more so than you?
 
I didn’t say they “outweigh” fears black people have of cops. I said they’re more predictable. A black man walking the street in Clayton, Mo is a lot less likely to be assaulted or killed by cops than a white man walking the street in East St. Louis is to be assaulted or killed by the gangs. And the former is going to be considerably less fearful than the latter.
 
From what little I know of the movement it seems like some sort of Anarchist group? My Twitter feed has been blowing up with anarchy accounts championing this cause anyway. Someone please tell me if I’m wrong haha.

I understand the protestor’s anger but I don’t support rioting,so if BLM is specifically advocating for rioting then I can’t say I support them.
 
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A black man walking the street in Clayton, Mo is a lot less likely to be assaulted or killed by cops than a white man walking the street in East St. Louis is to be assaulted or killed by the gangs. And the former is going to be considerably less fearful than the latter.
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Nice diversion. Terrorism by government officials is ALWAYS as a genre worse than street crime. An East St. Louis gang can’t arrest someone with official sanction.

You posted an irrelevancy. This is not an issue of comparative danger.
 
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Terrorism by government officials is ALWAYS as a genre worse than street crime.
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To a dead victim, it’s a distinction without difference. Dead is dead.
Nepperhan said:
An East St. Louis gang can’t arrest someone with official sanction.
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Since most people arrested are NOT harmed, being arrested is a much better outcome than being murdered by some gang.
 
Ridgerunner said:
To a dead victim, it’s a distinction without difference. Dead is dead.
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There is obviously a difference between a street mugging and an official apartheid system. Your comment makes no sense.
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Since most people arrested are NOT harmed, being arrested is a much better outcome than being murdered by some gang.
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We’re not comparing outcomes here but enforcement and subjugation power.
 
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