Any thoughts on the debates?

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Thoughts? Just another group of communists who hate their own country. Except Tulsi, hope she does well.
 
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Facebook just does advertising? I think not. Thus advertising not “same product or service”
 
That’s how they get their revenue. They sell adds, use user data to target users, and sell user data to other marketing companies. That is by far their major source of revenue.
 
Umm that’s tax dodging not capital cronyism in cahoots with congress. the Tax breaks the artcle also refers to are foreign taxes from other countries, not the US.

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No, they get their revenue by offering a full service which generates traffic and the traffic combined w the advertising generates their revenue. Without the whole service that generates the traffic, the advertising is worthless. You can’t separate the advertising from their full service.
 
The traffic is a tool to brings people who will see the ads and hopefully click on them.
 
Your flawed logic suggests my website I just created w zero traffic and advertising is a Facebook competitor, even though I don’t offer users any features of FB service. No monopoly can ever exist per this logic. Same logic that says 7-11 is competitor of a steak restaurant since both sell water
 
No, but there are many other ways for advertisers to market their product.
Look at Microsoft and the antitrust action the European Union took against them. Windows became the primary OS for businesses in Europe. A product the businesses paid for. Microsoft then started creating other products to sell to be used with the Windows OS. They preloaded these products on their Windows platform and refused to allow other products to be preloaded, and in some cases not even compatible. Competition was put at an unfair advantage, hence the antitrust fines.
Standard Oil had a monopoly on the Kerosene market until it was broken up via antitrust actions. AT&T also levied too much power in the communications world allowing too much pricing power without competition, and the company was broken up into a lot of Baby Bell companies.
Facebook and Google both have great tools to attract consumers for advertisers, but are not monopolies. That’s not to say someday things might not change, and the Feds are you watching.
 
Ok but seriously what competitor can offer advertisers a network of user data even in same ball park as Facebook? Just seems like 2nd biggest competitor would have user database fraction the size
 
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Tulsi Gabbard is possibly the least objectionable of all the candidates, in that she has just a tiny bit of conservative credibility, but I didn’t see much out of her. I really wanted to like her.
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I wonder if it’s Hawaii, her home base. They are very socially liberal, but the isolation might introduce some common sense practicality.
 
Google for one, Amazon for another.
The biggest threat to Facebook and Google are privacy issues. European laws are much more strict regarding privacy, but I expect the US will follow suit.
I’m done, good night and God Bless!
 
Agreed, speaking as conservative she has best chance to beat Trump but I doubt she’s far left enough to win primary
 
I didn’t realize Amazon/Google collected user data to level of FB. I’ve never entered my favorite books, tv shows, city I was born , religion, etc etc into Google or Amazon but have FB.

Irony is we have “right to privacy” in USA, but sadly only as far as sexual (abortion, contraception, etc), which Court extended from 4th amendment which is about being free from unlawful searches. Wacked logic
 
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I think no matter what the health care plan is, there will be some who benefit and others who do not. But even an imperfect plan is probably better than nothing. It is also probably better to work from what we have, the ACA, than to begin all over again, which the GOP prefers to do and, it seems, so does Bernie Sanders, because, as we know, the Congress is slow to pass any kind of legislation and there are people without health insurance who need some sort of help as soon as possible.
 
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Aquinas11 said:
I didn’t realize Amazon/Google collected user data to level of FB. I’ve never entered my favorite books, tv shows, city I was born , religion, etc etc into Google or Amazon but have FB.

Irony is we have “right to privacy” in USA, but sadly only as far as sexual (abortion, contraception, etc), which Court extended from 4th amendment which is about being free from unlawful searches. Wacked logic
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Nobody is forced to use Google, to buy from Amazon, or to post material to Facebook. When you hand over your data, it can be used in ways you don’t foresee. I cannot fathom why people post personal information, pictures, and what have you, on Facebook. They just want to put things out there for their friends and relatives to see, but the flip side is that it is very easy for stalkers to find you. Same with LinkedIn. I know everyone wants a better job, but your personal data is out there for the world to see. I don’t fool with things like that.
 
Aquinas11 said:
Agreed, speaking as conservative she has best chance to beat Trump but I doubt she’s far left enough to win primary
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I think the campaign is morphing towards Tulsi being the least objectionable candidate in the eyes of conservatives. Maybe in states where you are allowed to vote in the primary of your choice, conservatives could vote in the Democratic primary and cast a ballot for Tulsi. I may do that myself. Time will tell.
 
I’m a bit more hopeful… But I’m still going to cleanse my palate with a nice video replay of a Reagan / Carter or Reagan/Mondale debate. Maybe with a “This Week with David Brinkley” chaser…
 
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