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I can make a very good argument that Trump has done more to “solve our issues” than anyone else in the last 75 years.

Examples? Trump has called out a hostile China; stood up to them, and out-negotiated them on trade deals after they essentially abused both GWB and Obama; manufacturing jobs that had fled to China were (and are) largely returning. Trump was the only person on a nationwide stage who ever asked, “why are Japanese cars so frequent here and one never sees Fords in Tokyo?” (because of anti-US trade policies he’s rolled back). Trump continually advocates for the unborn (only president to address the March for Life); has largely listened to the middle class; and, till COVID hit, had gotten unemployment to historic lows in the black community.

As to “spreading the rhetoric we’ve seen,” are you suggesting that the democrats don’t say the same things, over and over again? Or don’t divide us? Obama was basically the largest divider-in-chief our nation has ever seen.
 
Assuming someone who dislikes Trump is automatically a Democrat is highly illogical. Trump hijacked the Republican Party with his personal agenda. Just because someone dislikes trump and won’t vote for him doesn’t mean they love Obama or Hillary or any other “leftist” politician.
 
I assume nothing whatsoever: Trump has many haters, including in the Republican party.

What you call a hijacking I call a return to its rightful owners. For too many years the Republican party had been dominated by the Mitt Romneys & John McCains of the world – in other words, people who were polite; who didn’t punch back when they were treated viciously by the dems; and who were ultimately losers on a nationwide stage (and don’t think those 2 losers didn’t hate Trump because he succeeded where they failed). Paul Ryan was that, too. I don’t know what was worse: Joe Biden’s nastiness when he debated Ryan; or Ryan effetely letting him act that way. I don’t like losers either.
 
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A sign of weakness in today’s media. We would rather rally round and cheer for a bully, right?
 
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Turn the other cheek. Being a servant to all. Humility in all things. Meekness. These are Catholic virtues.
 
Yes, it certainly is a deficiency – when your adversaries include “Vlad the Impaler” Putin; President Xi of China; and the vicious folks at NARAL; and when those folks take politeness as a sign of weakness - which too often is precisely how it presents.

Even on this board, and perhaps particularly here, there is a strong strain of effete, “I don’t like Trump because he’s so harsh!”-condescension, as if our enemies are moved by politeness (they are not).

For all their politeness, do you really think world leaders had any real respect for, say, Barack Obama (and his fawning apologies for essentially everything the US said or did and his “we should be more like Europe”-claptrap); Mitt Romney; Paul Ryan; or other smooth-talking lightweights? Those 3 together weighed like 6 pounds.

If you’ve not been listening to a lot of voters, the strains I heard in 2016 was a lot of Americans saying “Putin & Xi are junkyard dogs, I want one too!” --And thank God we’ve got one!
 
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But they’re not virtues in a US president. In a US political leader, they are vices; the qualities of losers; and the qualities of people who don’t win elections.
 
Are you Catholic? I ask because as Catholics, we are required to act with charity. How do you square this teaching with the views you’ve expressed here?
 
I think I am much more charitable than the effete, condescending folks on this board who trash Trump mercilessly and display not the slightest charity to him (or even to their own country, as they repeatedly bash the US).
 
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VonDerTann said:
I think I am much more charitable than the effete, condescending folks on this board who trash Trump mercilessly and display not the slightest charity to him (or even to their own country, as they repeatedly bash the US).
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Yet you’re championing the very tactics you dislike seeing others on the forums use. ?
 
No. I do not think Trump acts uncharitably. I think he acts with strength.

What is “uncharitable” is the merciless attacks he and his supporters get on this board.
 
VonDerTann said:
No. I do not think Trump acts uncharitably. I think he acts with strength.

What is “uncharitable” is the merciless attacks he and his supporters get on this board.
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Earlier you said of politeness…
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Yes, it certainly is a deficiency – when your adversaries include “Vlad the Impaler” Putin; President Xi of China; and the vicious folks at NARAL; and when those folks take politeness as a sign of weakness - which too often is precisely how it presents.
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So Trump should be acting without charity, according to this statement.
 
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We can’t all stay sequestered forever.
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Amen! However, we should reopen smartly. Oh, how I wish our President could lead well in this regard.

In my home state of Massachusetts, we’ve reopened and coronavirus cases continue to fall. I think it’s because the people here wear face masks in public places like stores, and other safe practices.

Massachusetts new cases daily
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Compare this, for example, to Texas. What accounts for the difference?

Texas new cases daily
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I’m all for reopening well.
 
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Frankly, I was more interested in what Mr. Trump had to say. He’s trying to get our country back on its feet. We can’t all stay sequestered forever.
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Were you impressed by this gem from Mr. Trump:
President Trump complained that coronavirus testing in the United States — which began later in the pandemic than it did in other countries — is driving up the numbers of confirmed infections, and he said he told his advisers to test people more slowly, even though experts agree that robust testing is the best way to control the pandemic.

“Here’s the bad part: When you do testing to that extent you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases,’’ he said. “So I said to my people, slow the testing down, please. They test and they test.’’
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Thorolfr said:
even though experts agree that robust testing is the best way to control the pandemic.
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Nope. I don’t think this is agreed upon by experts, at all!

In fact, what is likely the single best way to control the pandemic? Wash your hands!

(and I believe I’ve more than debunked the whole “do whatever experts tell you!” earlier).
 
No, and no. Politeness can and often does present as weakness. The US needs a strong president. We have one. Obama? Weak, and presented as such.

With due respect, you seem to have a fixation on “charity.” In my book, charity need not equal “apologizing all the time,” “being mindful of others’ feelings,” etc. Charity, as I see it, equals speaking the truth.
 
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It’s pretty obvious that Biden is past his sell-by date and the unexpected pandemic is actually helping him by reducing opportunities for him to make public gaffes.
There is still a chance for him to win if the economy goes deeper into the tank.
I strongly suspect that the recent unrest has picked up some votes for Trump.
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Biden doesn’t seem to be doing all that badly so far. According to a poll published by the Des Moines Register and Mediacom on Monday, Mr. Trump had only a one point lead over Biden in the state of Iowa which he carried by nine points in 2016. And Republican Senator Joni Ernst was trailing her Democratic challenger, Theresa Greenfield, 43% to 46%. In a reversal for Mr. Trump from 2016, white working class women preferred Mr. Biden by 18 points, 53% to 35%. In 2016, Mr. Trump carried this demographic by 2 percentage points. Mr. Trump must be a little worried because he spent $400,000 advertising in a state that he was expected a few months ago to carry easily.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowa Poll: Donald Trump leads Joe Biden by 1 point in tight contest for president

Four years after Donald Trump decisively won Iowa, the state appears to be in play this November.
www.desmoinesregister.com
 
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