Anyone watching PresidentTrump Rally in Tulsa Oklahoma Live

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In fact, what is likely the single best way to control the pandemic? Wash your hands!
Washing your hands is probably not the best way to control the pandemic. As noted by the CDC website:
It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
The main way that the virus is thought to be spread is “through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.” So everyone practicing social distancing and wearing a face mask is probably more important than hand washing in preventing the spread of the virus.

 
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No. I do not think Trump acts uncharitably. I think he acts with strength.

What is “uncharitable” is the merciless attacks he and his supporters get on this board.
You lknow who else got mercilessly attacked - to the point of being killed by His enemies? And reapnded with 'blessed are you when men revile and persecute you" “turn.the other cheek” and “'Father forgive them”?

The extent to which any person - President.of the US or not- can be judged is the extent to which he or she conforms to the example.of Christ.

Trump strikes me.as being childish, not that others aren’t, but “they started it” is a pretty poor.rationale for any sort of behaviour.
 
I won’t comment on politics, but as someone who lives in a European country which is well past the first wave, the sanitary measures look really insufficient.

I would like to see protesters wear masks and respect social distancing too. That’s a debate we’re having here as well.

But for an official campaign event being organised indoors, with no mandatory masks and no provisions made for social distancing… it would never have been green-lighted even in zero-new-cases-nationwide-yesterday Switzerland.

So I’m surprised.
 
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The Lord has! The arena was packed, standing room only, and the overflow spilled onto the parking lot.
 
The Lord has! The arena was packed, standing room only, and the overflow spilled onto the parking lot.
It was packed, standing room only? According to Forbes:
While President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Saturday was pitched as an over-subscribed event, with Trump campaign staffers touting ticket registrations over a million, the final turnout came to a fraction of the venue’s overall capacity, confirming reports of low turnout that dogged what was meant to be Trump’s triumphant return to the campaign trail.

The Trump campaign set expectations high for the rally, announcing that they had received more than a million ticket requests, despite the venue, the BOK Center, seating just 19,200.

Anticipating high turnout that would exceed that capacity, the campaign planned a second, outdoor speech to address the crowd in the overflow section.

But those hopes quickly evaporated on the evening of the rally, with reporters tweeting photos of the rally showing huge swaths of empty seats in the stadium.

The campaign ended up cancelling the second speech to the overflow section, with Communications Director Tim Murtaugh blaming the low turnout on the media and protesters, who he claimed blocked access to the entrance despite reports that nobody was turned away from the rally.

Andrew Little, the Public Information Officer for the Tulsa Fire Department, confirmed to Forbes on Sunday that a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people, far fewer attendees than the campaign expected.
 
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Weird how all those “experts” (really just partisan activists) came out of how woodwork to condemn the rally after supporting the protesting!
 
Weird how all those “experts” (really just partisan activists) came out of how woodwork to condemn the rally after supporting the protesting!
Can you name one person who condemned the rally after supporting the protesting?
 
Weird how all those “experts” (really just partisan activists) came out of how woodwork to condemn the rally after supporting the protesting!
Did they really do that? According to USA Today:
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, expressed concern for people attending mass protests across the country, touched off by the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white Minnesota police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes. Fauci said that while he understands why people feel compelled to attend protests, spreading the contagious respiratory disease at such large-scale events poses a real threat.

“You know, it’s a danger to the people who are trying to control the demonstration,” he told ABC’s Jonathan Karl on the “Powerhouse Politics” podcast. “And it’s a danger to the people who are demonstrating. So at the end of the day, it is a risky procedure.”

When asked whether he extends that advice to Americans who want to attend one of Trump’s upcoming rallies, including next week’s planned rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Fauci said yes.

“I am consistent. I stick by what I say,” he said.

Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, reiterated guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on limiting the spread of COVID-19, adding that the safest practice is to “avoid crowded places, to wear a mask whenever you’re outside. And if you can do both, avoid the congregation of people and do the mask, that’s great.”

“When you start to chant and shout, even though the instinct is to pull the mask down, which you see, don’t do that because there is a risk there and it’s a real risk,” he said.
 
Earlier you said of politeness…
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VonDerTann:
Yes, it certainly is a deficiency – when your adversaries include “Vlad the Impaler” Putin; President Xi of China; and the vicious folks at NARAL; and when those folks take politeness as a sign of weakness - which too often is precisely how it presents.
So Trump should be acting without charity, according to this statement.
Politeness and charity are not synonymous.

What has been happening in politics is a veiled rudeness, such as denigrating the supporters of one’s opponents (bitterly clinging to guns and religion; basket of deplorables). But these things are said in measured tones, with those fake profound pauses as if every word had not been previously scripted if not market-tested :roll_eyes:

Didn’t Someone describe the Pharisees as vipers and whited sepulchers? Wow, I don’t think that was very polite…
 
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Earlier you said of politeness…
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VonDerTann:
Yes, it certainly is a deficiency – when your adversaries include “Vlad the Impaler” Putin; President Xi of China; and the vicious folks at NARAL; and when those folks take politeness as a sign of weakness - which too often is precisely how it presents.
So Trump should be acting without charity, according to this statement.
Politeness and charity are not synonymous.

What has been happening in politics is a veiled rudeness, such as denigrating the supporters of one’s opponents (bitterly clinging to guns and religion; basket of deplorables). But these things are said in measured tones, with those fake profound pauses as if every word had not been previously scripted if not market-tested :roll_eyes:

Didn’t Someone describe the Pharisees as vipers and whited sepulchers? Wow, I don’t think that was very polite…
As opoosed to Trumps very open rudeness-, labelling immigrants en masse as drug dealers and rapists, his disgusting comments about a female.reporter ‘bleeding out her whatever’, and grabbing women by the privates, and on and on.

How on earth is Trump even close to following Christ’s example, please.tell me, because I’m absolutely not seeing it.

Christ said ‘let.him who is without sin cast the first stone’. Trump.is NOT Christ!
 
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Or more recently, lowlifes and scum of the earth when referring to protestors or democrats.
 
Trump.is NOT Christ!
I agree with you here!

And Trump has often said things I did not like.

I am just enormously sick and tired of people who smile at your face while stabbing you in the back.
 
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Trump.is NOT Christ!
I agree with you here!

And Trump has often said things I did not like.

I am just enormously sick and tired of people who smile at your face while stabbing you in the back.
Is the only alternative really being stabbed to your face (and spat on for good measure)?

I cannot believe in 2020 we are acting as of people cannot learn to be (if they are.not already) genuinely civil and respectful. We have utterly failed as Christians if we cannot both practice and teach these things.
 
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Don’t forget when he called one of his own former black female staffers a “dog” on Twitter. His insults have been constant. And yet Catholics defend it. Disgusting. Truly disgusting. Yes, I fully support what his administration has done in regards to combatting abortion. That’s great. It truly is. But no good deeds give him a pass for his public shameful behaviour both before and since his election.
 
I assume nothing whatsoever: Trump has many haters, including in the Republican party.
Trump has many people who disagree with his positions and disapprove of his unethical actions, including in the Republican party.

There, fixed that for you.
You’re welcome.
 
In fact, what is likely the single best way to control the pandemic? Wash your hands!
No. It’s testing and contact tracing. We were left with washing hands after Trump’s abysmal early response to this: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
 
Do you think the protesters are?
Not sure “the protesters” you speak of are protesters in Tulsa (which is the subject of this thread), or the subject of the recent civil unrest (which is NOT the subject of this thread).

So, assuming we are discussing protesters in Tulsa targeting the rally, the number of protesters was a low, relatively, as the number of those in attendance at the rally.
 
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