Are Mormons Protestant or their own thing?

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My only encounter with Mormons was when I had pretty rough day… my mobile was stolen so I spent entire day going around city tracking it (not by car), had one of hardest exams at university and then had to buy my kwn mobile because police wouldn’t help. So pretty stupid day for me.

As I was going home som people stopped by me to talk and I was sincerely tired but was grateful to God in that moment so I did my usual “ok, I’ll do this for You” and I talked to them with charity. They explained to me their theology and I explained ours. I didn’t know much about Mormons before this incident and I was intrigued by their beliefs, but could easily point out to Bible verses and Church Fathers. They explained their Great Apostasy theory and read me parts of Book of Mormon. I failed to see the logic behind it. Soon after conversation shifted from facts to feelings- apparently if I read Book of Mormon I will feel it to be correct. I responded with “adultery feels good, is it correct? Fasting feels bad, is it bad?”. They basically thanked me and wished me a nice day. It was somewhat refreshing because they were very charitable to me and it felt like I needed that at the time.

Based on this encounter I do not believe them to be Protestant. Are they Christian? Interesting, because historically Arians were Christians and so were binitarians. However those people say there is infinite number of Gods and so on…

However Protestantism seems Trinitarian by default.
 
You can actually view the witnesses signatures and see they are all in the same hand writing. The Bible also talks about seer stones and other things that should not be used. Yes, Smith claimed to have done more for the church the Jesus himself. Quite sad really. But did you notice how gazelam didn’t mention any of that?
 
You know exactly what he means when he posted it. Why just pick out 1 sentence? Why not answer the whole paragraph?
 
I read that they didn’t actually see it but saw only a bag that Joseph said contained it.
 
As a Protestant I would state as a fact Mormonism is not Christianity for a vast number of reasons.
 
I used to be a Member of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints, and Abortion can lead to ex-fellowmanship or excommunication. But we can trace our Baptism to Saint John the Baptist the Prophet. I am no longer a Member, but they asked my Mom if she had ever had an Abortion during her Baptismal Interview. But Tithing is never enforced. It is “required” but there is no Punishment for not tithing except not being able to go to a Temple.
 
Well, they are not washed once a Week, and it says about fifty Washings in a Year and there are … fifty-two Weeks in a Year …
 
ColonelRebel said:
Well, they are not washed once a Week, and it says about fifty Washings in a Year and there are … fifty-two Weeks in a Year …
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It says 50 washings. If you washed them every day, they would last about seven weeks, if they start wearing out after being washed 50 times — that’s a pretty flimsy garment. If you washed them once a week (keep in mind that these are underwear), that would be about a year.

I hope they’re not polyester. Wearing polyester right next to one’s skin for a solid week without washing… that’s pretty disgusting. At least cotton breathes and absorbs sweat.

Back in early Mormon days, washing clothes daily would not have been a thing. We have washers and dryers now.
 
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Yesterday I received a text from a nephew. Two years ago he was married to his wife in the Houston LDS temple. His text said that he has left the Mormon church and become a Christian. I’m not sure exactly what that means but I’m sure it means to him that Mormonism is not a protestant religion.
 
rIz0 said:
Please explain how Mormons can trace their baptism to St. John?
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The angel John the Baptist appeared to Joe and Oliver and gave them the keys of the lower priesthood which included the power to baptize. After that, Oliver dunked Joe and then Joe dunked Oliver and they became the first two members of God’s only true church. That was basically the beginning of the restoration of the Mormonite gospel.
 
Right. That hardly suffices as being able to trace their baptism to St. John in an empirical domain of discourse.
 
rIz0 said:
Right. That hardly suffices as being able to trace their baptism to St. John in an empirical domain of discourse.
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What exactly do you mean by “empirical domain of discourse” in this case. What “empirical domain of discourse” is there for Jesus walking on water (Matthew 14:22-33) or Jesus giving authority to his disciples (Luke 9:1)?
 
Oh they’re their own thing all right. I was reading a conversation between a Catholic and a Mormon, in which the Mormon said they were not some Christian denomination or even Christians, they were ‘Adventists’. They consider themselves as distant from us as any of the Abrahamic religions as a minimum.

The Church recognises Protestant baptisms as valid, but Mormons are one of the few groups that they do not recognise the baptism of due to their immensely different theology.
 
If your a Mormon then you know exactly what I am taking about - we are not talking about simple prayer as you tried to put it - the claim is an actual conversation back and forth with God. Why would you try to hide that if your a believer.
 
I mean a domain of discourse guided by fact not feeling. When did I bring up Jesus walking on water. Moving the goal posts much?

How can Mormons can trace their baptism to St. John? You have a way of never answering questions. It’s quite annoying.
 
BT3241 said:
If your a Mormon then you know exactly what I am taking about - we are not talking about simple prayer as you tried to put it - the claim is an actual conversation back and forth with God. Why would you try to hide that if your a believer.
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I’m not trying to hide anything. I’m simply responding to the comments of a fellow CAFer. You did use the words “speaks” and “answers” in your comment.

If you want to see what President Nelson himself says on the matter, please feel free to look here and here.
 
Also, I would expect you to never reference any source as evidence for any claim you make from here on out. You know because trying to establish truth in an intellectually honest way is silly.
 
Mishakel said:
As a Protestant I would state as a fact Mormonism is not Christianity for a vast number of reasons.
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As a Catholic and former Protestant and one who has spent significant time in downtown Salt Lake City, I would say that many Protestants do their own thing and the Mormons are just a particular and enduring variety of doing their own thing. The Mormon Church did its own thing. Brigham Young with his house with 20 bedrooms for 20 wives in downtown SLC did his own thing. But, Jim and Tammy Baker did their own thing. Jimmy Swaggart did his own thing. Every independent Protestant doing their own interpretation of the Bible and making up their own doctrines is doing their own thing. You can ask eight people at a Protestant bible study to interpret a Bible verse and get eight different meanings.
 
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