Are there spiritual consequences for leaving Catholic Church?

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I don’t have an answer to that exactly, but… I would like to go back to the way it was. I felt a lot closer to God before I entered the Catholic Church.

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I hope that helps explain things.
Sounds to me like the work of Beelzebub.

As to the issue you mentioned,

In a nutshell, a woman can’t be a priest because a priest is married to the Church. The Church is a “she” – the Bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:25-33; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 21:9-14, 22:17). The priest is “in persona Christi” – in the person of Christ – when celebrating Mass and administering the sacraments. A woman married to the Bride of Christ? Never happen. A woman priest “in persona Christi” – not possible. The priest images Christ in His Church.

Peace be with you.
 
Thank you for your honest, heart felt answer. My heart is breaking for you. It’s sounds like you are so overwhelmed with trying to be a good Catholic. Take off the scapular and put it away until the day comes that you want to put it back on…if you ever do. I’ve seen posts here that Mary would never want you to do anything that would draw you away from Jesus. That would include praying the Rosary, Novenas, etc. Take a step back and just pray. You believe in the Church. Go to another parish if you need to. Don’t join any groups, just go to Mass. Talk to another Priest if you need to. Keep trying until you find someone who can answer your questions. Being in Boston I would think you would have any number of options. Try spending time in Adoration. Pray as you feel led. Just spend time with the Lord.

Remember God loves you. He wants you to be a part of His church. He is always here for you.

I’ll be praying for you.
I’m a convert too. The Church can be a little heavy-duty at times, and strange too, if you’re not used to it. This advice above is the best.

Just take a step back: Keep going to mass once a week on Sunday, and talk to God when you feel like it. But take off the scapular and forget what anybody thinks of that, Mary won’t mind one bit. Ignore anybody trying to lecture you about piety and all that. Easy does it for now until you see the sense in this again, which you will. Been there myself.
 
I’m a convert too. The Church can be a little heavy-duty at times, and strange too, if you’re not used to it. This advice above is the best.

Just take a step back: Keep going to mass once a week on Sunday, and talk to God when you feel like it. But take off the scapular and forget what anybody thinks of that, Mary won’t mind one bit. Ignore anybody trying to lecture you about piety and all that. Easy does it for now until you see the sense in this again, which you will. Been there myself.
IMHO the heavy lifting is keeping the commandments as Christ tells us we must do to be saved. It’s the simplest things that are so hard. In those commandments there are countless ways that the evil one try’s to tempt and deceive us. The beauty of being Catholic is Jesus knew we would fail and he gave us reconciliation to purify our soul, so that we could be with him forever. And he gave us the Eucharist to strengthen and purify us as a sign of his new covenant. As Paul says, we have to “persevere in running the race that lies before us.” It’s a good deal for us though, living in love for each and God and in return, receiving everlasting life. 👍
 
Long story short I’m a convert of a few short years, and with each passing year I become more miserable in relation to Catholicism. This past year and half has been particularly rough spiritually (everything else in life has been fine), and now I’m seriously considering leaving.

The thing is, I can’t find anywhere what the Church’s teaching is about formally leaving. Keep in mind, I don’t disagree with anything it teaches, so it’s not a matter of heresy, and I’m not denying Church authority, so it’s not schism. I can’t remember as I type what the CCC said about apostasy, but I do remember that I didn’t fit that category for some reason either, although I think it had to with the fact that I’d still remain Christian.

So what’s the official line? Because I am afraid of the possibility of ending up in Hell.
There are two issues here.
  1. Once a Catholic always a Catholic. No matter how you feel, what you think, what you do, even turning your back on the Church you remain a Catholic forever. You cannot formally leave the Church. Even in the past when a Catholic submitted a written paper informing the Church they were leaving the Church and no longer considered themselves Catholic all the Church did was acknowledge receipt of said document but considered the person still a Catholic.
    There are only two types of Catholic. Those in a state of grace and those in a state of mortal sin.
  2. What are the consequences of walking away from the Church? You put yourself in a state of mortal sin and if you die unrepentant you will go to Hell.
 
I don’t have an answer to that exactly, but… I would like to go back to the way it was. I felt a lot closer to God before I entered the Catholic Church.

I was brought up nominally Protestant, with no real formation so to speak, ended up an adult atheist. After a born again type of experience that happened outside of any church setting, I ended up regularly attending a quiet little Anglican church which in some ways was very Catholic actually, but still, in other ways had that New England Protestant quality that’s hard to describe, but very nice. I was settled into something like CS Lewis’ “mere Christianity” and quite happy, and day by day was becoming closer to God and less sinful and more happy.

Eventually it became clear that the Anglican community had it wrong on certain issues, and as I learned more and more about the RCC, intellectually I didn’t see any other choice but to convert. My heart seemed in it, too.

But I hate going Mass, confession feels like a bad therapy session, and I don’t for the life of me understand what’s appealing about fellowship. I’m frustrated by having to explain to cradle Catholics of all people why a woman can’t be a priest, and speaking of priests, of all I’ve talked to, not one has the clear, practical spiritual advice I expected Catholic priests to possess (I blame Chesterton for the expectation).

All of it has really been wearing me down over the past year in particular. I’m just tired, that’s all. I’d like to return to sneaking into the back a small church when I feel like I need a Sunday service, not because I’ll have to go to confession for mortal sin if I don’t. I’d like to be able to take off this brown scapular without worrying that I’m somehow thumbing my nose at Marian devotion and thereby increasing the likelihood of my heading south for eternity. I’d like to go one week without hearing about the Catechism, CYO, or Cursillo, one week without novenas, extra rosary intentions and worrying about how many dying souls will have to suffer longer because I didn’t feel like praying a Chaplet of Divine Mercy this Friday. I’d like to go one Sunday without having to pretend like I’m in deep prayer after communion when the fact of the matter is that although I acknowledge the divine truth of the Holy Eucharist, my heart’s never moved after receiving.

I hope that helps explain things.
I’m a convert too, and it’s a tough row to hoe. You have a classic case of culture shock, the same way you would if you moved to a foreign country. You feel lonely, frustrated, tired, burnt out, and “homesick.” If you were to go back to that little New England Church it wouldn’t be the same, because you’re not a citizen of that country anymore. You can’t go home again, because you already are home. It’s just that home isn’t exactly how you thought it would be, and what could be more disappointing that having your home not feel homey? It’s something you have to grieve.

You seem clear that the Catholic Church is Christ’s church, so like Peter you must say, “Where would we go, Lord? You alone have the words of eternal life.” I would just tell God your feelings, and ask the Holy Spirit for comfort and consolation.

I would take ZZ192 and maltmom’s advice. Catholicism is like drinking from a fire hose sometimes. Try to simplify, do the basics, and maybe you’ll find the Catholicism that’s a nice quiet stream. Ditch all the extra devotions. Their number one purpose is to help you grow spiritually. If they don’t, they’re not the right devotions for you. Are there devotions you had as an Anglican that helped your growth? Go back to those. I would also try to find some people in church who get where you’re coming from. Are there any converts in your parish? Personally I find reading the Bible very grounding. It seems to be Christianity in its elemental form, and it’s a comfort to see the humanness of Jesus in the gospels, and David in the Psalms.

Another thing I read in your post is that you’re not emotionally satisfied. Unfortunately, our feelings are what they are. I mean, you can manipulate them to a certain extent, but sometimes you feel it, sometimes you don’t-- no matter if you’re Catholic, Protestant or Hindu. If you have to just “go through the motions” for a while, so be it. God values your faithfulness when you’re in a spiritual desert so much more than when it’s easy. I would take great comfort that the Eucharist is completely outside our feelings. Think of it, no matter what frame of mind we are in, and no matter the degree of reverence and worship we come with, Jesus shows up. He gives himself Body and Blood; Soul and Divinity at every single Mass, on all the altars, in all the world. When you’re in line for communion and after, I would just thank him for that miracle.

Stick around, so that when I’m going through what you’re going through, you can be there for me 😃 Seriously though, the Body of Christ needs you. God has placed you right where you are for his purpose and glory. When I go to Church this morning I will ask Mary to pray for you, and to comfort you as a mother. I will say a decade of the rosary for you. I will ask the Holy Spirit to comfort you in your affliction. I will pray to St. Michael for you too.
 
I’m a convert too, and it’s a tough row to hoe. You have a classic case of culture shock, the same way you would if you moved to a foreign country. You feel lonely, frustrated, tired, burnt out, and “homesick.” If you were to go back to that little New England Church it wouldn’t be the same, because you’re not a citizen of that country anymore. You can’t go home again, because you already are home. It’s just that home isn’t exactly how you thought it would be, and what could be more disappointing that having your home not feel homey? It’s something you have to grieve.
That’s exactly it. Truly, i could not have said it better myself. Thanks for the rest of the post, too… It was helpful.

But one thing I’m still unclear on is this: CCC 846
the Church… is necessary for salvation… He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

CCC seems clear that salvation is dependent on baptism and faith. Well I can’t undo my baptism (nor do I want to) and I still have faith (albeit imperfectly, obviously). So couldn’t I leave the Catholic Church without leaving the Christian faith and still be okay in God’s eyes? (with the contingency, of course, on doing my best to live virtuously and without sin… I’m not looking for excuses to live an immoral life. I have no interest in that)
 
What a wicked thing to say “you are in serious jeopardy of hell”
Who are you offer such advice ?
A Christian is a follower of CHRIST
You do not have to be a Catholic to be a Christian.
As already pointed out, I did not say what you quoted.

But Who am I to tell a poster who truly knew in their heart the truth already? Someone who cares deeply for them. Who does not want to see anyone perish.

Platitudes like “You don’t have to be a Catholic to be a Christian”, to a person who is Catholic is not showing Christ’s love. Showing someone love sometimes means giving them a harsh truth. Just because the truth is harsh, doesn’t mean they aren’t in fact the most loving thing that could actually be told to them.

God bless
 
That’s exactly it. Truly, i could not have said it better myself. Thanks for the rest of the post, too… It was helpful.

But one thing I’m still unclear on is this: CCC 846
the Church… is necessary for salvation… He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

CCC seems clear that salvation is dependent on baptism and faith. Well I can’t undo my baptism (nor do I want to) and I still have faith (albeit imperfectly, obviously). So couldn’t I leave the Catholic Church without leaving the Christian faith and still be okay in God’s eyes? (with the contingency, of course, on doing my best to live virtuously and without sin… I’m not looking for excuses to live an immoral life. I have no interest in that)
No you cannot leave the Church and be okay in God’s eyes. You would be in a state of mortal sin.
Salvation is not dependent only on baptism and faith. There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
 
I don’t have an answer to that exactly, but… I would like to go back to the way it was. I felt a lot closer to God before I entered the Catholic Church.
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My heart aches for you. It appears as if you are going through the Dark Night of the Soul. You would not be going through the “dark night of the soul” if God did not know that you have the faith to make it through. I believe it was Mother Teresa who went through the Dark Night of the soul for a very long time. Many great saints have.

While it is great when we “feel” good about God, sometimes He asks us to walk forward in faith. And while all those devotions you are doing are supposed to help us in our faith and I want to tell you to just get back to the basics, you need to seriously consider that you truly are just in a Dark Night of the Soul and you are going through this because these devotions have already increased your faith to a point where God is refining you mightily.

You will be in my prayers.

God Bless
 
I am a recent convert as well…one of the things my RCIA teachers stressed so much was to PRAY in these times of distress. Just from the sound of your posts, my advice to you would be to start praying; not pre-written prayer, but spontaneous prayer that is a conversation between you and God.
Adoration has helped me more than ever…actually committing to the same hour every week with Our Lord is doing wonders for my faith. Whenever I have doubts or dark times, my soul is lifted up when I am with Him. Why dont you try to do the same? You won’t find the eucharist anywhere else but this Church…
 
There are two issues here.
  1. Once a Catholic always a Catholic. No matter how you feel, what you think, what you do, even turning your back on the Church you remain a Catholic forever. You cannot formally leave the Church. Even in the past when a Catholic submitted a written paper informing the Church they were leaving the Church and no longer considered themselves Catholic all the Church did was acknowledge receipt of said document but considered the person still a Catholic.
    There are only two types of Catholic. Those in a state of grace and those in a state of mortal sin.
  2. What are the consequences of walking away from the Church? You put yourself in a state of mortal sin and if you die unrepentant you will go to Hell.
Scaring people is the old way of doing this thistle. It simply doesn’t work on most people, and it doesn’t really work very well on converts either.
 
I am a recent convert as well…one of the things my RCIA teachers stressed so much was to PRAY in these times of distress. Just from the sound of your posts, my advice to you would be to start praying; not pre-written prayer, but spontaneous prayer that is a conversation between you and God.
Adoration has helped me more than ever…actually committing to the same hour every week with Our Lord is doing wonders for my faith. Whenever I have doubts or dark times, my soul is lifted up when I am with Him. Why dont you try to do the same? You won’t find the eucharist anywhere else but this Church…
This is true. I’m a convert too. I’ve been catholic now for more than 25 years, and when it all got to me, I thought of Holy Communion. I think that’s the only reason I’ve stayed Catholic sometimes. I wouldn’t ever want to leave Christ in the Eucharist.
 
That’s exactly it. Truly, i could not have said it better myself. Thanks for the rest of the post, too… It was helpful.

But one thing I’m still unclear on is this: CCC 846
the Church… is necessary for salvation… He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

CCC seems clear that salvation is dependent on baptism and faith. Well I can’t undo my baptism (nor do I want to) and I still have faith (albeit imperfectly, obviously). So couldn’t I leave the Catholic Church without leaving the Christian faith and still be okay in God’s eyes? (with the contingency, of course, on doing my best to live virtuously and without sin… I’m not looking for excuses to live an immoral life. I have no interest in that)
No, because Jesus Christ never established any Protestant Church - only the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Protestants who have never heard of the Catholic Church and don’t know that the Catholic Church is the source of their Sacraments and Scriptures cannot be damned for their lack of knowledge, but we cannot un-know what we know - we have to remain faithful to the Church - even when from the outside, it seems imperfect.

You mentioned that you are a fan of C. S. Lewis. There’s a section in The Screwtape Letters where the devil is given instructions on what to do to the man when he converts - make the priest seem foolish and incompetent; make the music be off-key; make the other parishioners seem ever so slightly daffy, if not downright scoundrels; etc. - your case sounds so similar to the illustration given, that I can’t help but think that the evil one is behind all this. You might find that rereading the story will help to arm you against other treachery that the devil may have in store for you, as well.
 
Scaring people is the old way of doing this thistle. It simply doesn’t work on most people, and it doesn’t really work very well on converts either.
Actually, that was part of the original question - he was asking “might I go to Hell?” He was just answering the question. It’s not a “threat” - it’s a reality, like, if you stand up in the ferris wheel, you are likely to fall out and be killed. If someone says, 'I’m going to stand up in the ferris wheel," do you say, “Oh, that’s nice, good luck” or do you say, “No, that’s a really bad idea, you could fall out and be killed”?

I guess it depends on whether you care what happens to the person, right?
 
But one thing I’m still unclear on is this: CCC 846
the Church… is necessary for salvation… He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
I bolded a different, more pertinent sentence for your answer.
 
I don’t have an answer to that exactly, but… I would like to go back to the way it was. I felt a lot closer to God before I entered the Catholic Church.

I was brought up nominally Protestant, with no real formation so to speak, ended up an adult atheist. After a born again type of experience that happened outside of any church setting, I ended up regularly attending a quiet little Anglican church which in some ways was very Catholic actually, but still, in other ways had that New England Protestant quality that’s hard to describe, but very nice. I was settled into something like CS Lewis’ “mere Christianity” and quite happy, and day by day was becoming closer to God and less sinful and more happy.

Eventually it became clear that the Anglican community had it wrong on certain issues, and as I learned more and more about the RCC, intellectually I didn’t see any other choice but to convert. My heart seemed in it, too.

But I hate going Mass, confession feels like a bad therapy session, and I don’t for the life of me understand what’s appealing about fellowship. I’m frustrated by having to explain to cradle Catholics of all people why a woman can’t be a priest, and speaking of priests, of all I’ve talked to, not one has the clear, practical spiritual advice I expected Catholic priests to possess (I blame Chesterton for the expectation).

All of it has really been wearing me down over the past year in particular. I’m just tired, that’s all. I’d like to return to sneaking into the back a small church when I feel like I need a Sunday service, not because I’ll have to go to confession for mortal sin if I don’t. I’d like to be able to take off this brown scapular without worrying that I’m somehow thumbing my nose at Marian devotion and thereby increasing the likelihood of my heading south for eternity. I’d like to go one week without hearing about the Catechism, CYO, or Cursillo, one week without novenas, extra rosary intentions and worrying about how many dying souls will have to suffer longer because I didn’t feel like praying a Chaplet of Divine Mercy this Friday. I’d like to go one Sunday without having to pretend like I’m in deep prayer after communion when the fact of the matter is that although I acknowledge the divine truth of the Holy Eucharist, my heart’s never moved after receiving.

I hope that helps explain things.
Have you tried attending a Tridentine Latin Mass? Or visited an Eastern Catholic Liturgy?
 
Long story short I’m a convert of a few short years, and with each passing year I become more miserable in relation to Catholicism. …and now I’m seriously considering leaving.

The thing is, I can’t find anywhere what the Church’s teaching is about formally leaving. Keep in mind, I don’t disagree with anything it teaches, so it’s not a matter of heresy, and I’m not denying Church authority, so it’s not schism. I can’t remember as I type what the CCC said about apostasy, but I do remember that I didn’t fit that category for some reason either, although I think it had to with the fact that I’d still remain Christian.

So what’s the official line? Because I am afraid of the possibility of ending up in Hell.
Merlin, please ignore for the moment a lot of the non-connecting nonsense you have been advised upon above - especially the hell part. I am gob-smacked that people roll our the fire and brimstone without bothering to really understand your position or what you are saying to get context.

I am not sure that you really quite mean all that you seem to be saying because I feel more pain between the lines than any disciplined, proud intellectual position (which would be necessary bewfore we start smelling the brimstone 😉 ).

May I ask a couple of questions:
(1) Why the great formality of leaving? Why not just quietly give up on the dry arid outward Catholic practices/liturgy etc (most of which I and other intelligent non-card-carrying Catholics suffer as well)? Why the song and dance?
This suggests a little anger is in the mix as well (nothing wrong with that, it just needs to be owned if it is there).

(2) With maturity and understanding comes grief (Thomas Aquinas). This is an axiom of the spiritual life. I believe this is what is “cutting” you at the moment (I call it God purifying you of juvenile attachments so that he might more deeply give Himself to you). Does this scenario adequately describe what you may be feeling?

(3) Where do you plan on going to fill the vacuum in religious practice?

Chin up, we are here to help if we can and what you say is perfectly normal 👍
 
Huh, who knew that telling a Catholic that they could go to hell if they walked away from the Church was wicked, uncharitable and trying to scare them with fire and brimstone.
 
Huh, who knew that telling a Catholic that they could go to hell if they walked away from the Church was wicked, uncharitable and trying to scare them with fire and brimstone.
Especially when they asked to know. 🤷
 
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