I am a Traditionalist. When I converted from the Lutheran church I converted into the New Order. I couldn’t believe how much The New Mass was like the Lutheran services I grew up in. Everyone said that it was because Luther broke away from the Catholic Churc and took the Liturgy with him. Then I found out later that the Mass was nothing like that until Vatican II.
If you do your homework you will find out role of Archbishop Bugninni(A Freemason) and the six Protestant onlookers. More Rad Trad propaganda. I would love to tell you all day how I feel about the New Mass but if you have no idea what the True Mass is the arguement is useless.*** If what you “feel” is a denial of the validity of the “New Mass,” then it makes you a heretic.
I would encourage all Catholics to campare the New Mass with the True Mass. Vatican II WAS NOT a dogmatic counsil. Still infallible. Do not look at just what Vatican II says. Look at the Church History and that thing that Newchurch ignores called Tradition. No, it doesn’t ignore it, it expands upon it. The theology of the Mass is dogma, which cannot change. The order of the Mass is discipline, and no pope may bind his successor in matters of discipline. *** Discipline can change. Study past heresies. Study how the Modernism that infests the Church today was shot down many times by many popes. See how numerous saints, like Augustine, and laypeople took defiant stances against the pope. You can accuse us of being arrogant all you want. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I don’t like these forums. I am by no means a teacher and I do not have the authority to do so. If you have questions, ask a priest. Both Traditional and Newchurch. Laypeople, traditional and novus ordo, that do bible studies and doctrine Q & A’s are nothing more than the blind leading the blind. I am not telling you to be a Traditionalist. Do your homework. Then form an opinion. Go to a Tridentine Mass. Remember St. Pius X said "the Mass is not for the instruction of the faithful,"it is for the worship of Almighty God. Look at the stats since Vatican II. I would love to tell you them but you won’t believe me so look them up yourself. Look at the great Arian heresy. It infected the church, bishops and even popes for centuries. Our church and clergy are not exempt from the work of The Evil One. Christ said the gates of hell would not prevail, He did not say they wouldn’t attack it. Please do your homework on both sides. If the Newchurch still claims Tradition then why have they abandon it? ***See above. ***I would love to tell you how old the Latin Mass was but you find out. It was old enough to be considered Tradition. If the church claims Tradition then why are the Sacraments done different today? I would love to tell you how old the Traditional Sacraments are but you find out. They were old enough to be considered Tradition. I said only one Hail Mary in a New Mess in the 6 years I attended it. The Traditional Mass says it every Mass. If she is the Mother of God and does intercede for us, then why does the New Mess almost completely ignore her? Please do some research. Start at
traditio.com this is a sedevacantist site and go to “commentaries from the mailbox”. That’s a great place to start.
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