As a Catholic must I vote Trump?

[YADA]

Actually Trump is also for planned parenthood. He says he no longer likes the fact they do abortions, but he still thinks they do great work. Prior to all this he supported their cause outright, including abortion.

And as someone who works in the Pro-Life Movement - you know that moving from being Pro-Abortion to Pro-Life is not always a 18- degree shift … for many its a journey and takes incremental steps - each one to be celebrated …

Planned Parenthood is an evil organization - but like many organizations - they do some good things -

The Komen Foundation does good - but they donate to Planned Parenthood … and many people like me do not support the Komen Foundation … but I don’t get snippy with people who want to fight breast cancer -which is a good thing …

So … while Trumps support for some services like Cancer Screenings or other services may be misplaced with Planned Parenthood - that does not negate his change of heart on abortion nor the joy that should bring … It is certainly a far better stance than Hillary Clinton’s love affair with all things abortion and Planned Parenthood - even accepting the Margaret Sanger Award … the two are not equal - not even close

 

[adamhovey1988]

Just because he is pro-life or leans that way. There are many other aspects of him I honestly do not condone. I feel foolish voting for someone based on one issue.

I voted for Darrell Castle as he actually is pro-life, and I don’t think Trump is consistent enough. Now, that said, I can’t tell you who to vote for; vote your conscience. Don’t let people tell you’re “wasting your vote” or that “you must vote GOP, or abortion on demand will continue”.Or “you most vote Democrat, or poor people will starve” Look at everyone running (not just the Democrats or Republicans) and make an informed decision. I know who (and what) I was voting for before I cast that ballot. You still have a week to vote (if you hadn’t voted ahead of time like I did), and you have access to the Internet, so have at it. Your conscience may tell you to vote for Trump. Make sure that whomever you choose to vote for is on the ballot beforehand. We have write-in votes in South Carolina but they don’t count unless someone actively campaigns for them. Again though, ultimately whom you vote for is up to you.

 

[Beryllos]

Trump isn’t going to protect babies. He probably won’t make abortion any easier, that I’ll give him, but he’s far from intending to lessen or end it.

I was not satisfied with Trump’s answer in the debate to the question about whether he wished to overturn Roe vs. Wade. If I recall correctly, he dodged the question, saying he would appoint pro-life Supreme Court justices, and “if they overturned it, it’ll go back to the states,” and “it will go back to the states, and the states will then make a determination.”

I believe this is code for “I wish to secure the pro-life vote by promising to appoint pro-life justices, but I don’t wish to scare away pro-choice voters, so I remind them that they will still be able to get abortions by traveling to pro-choice states.”

So I will say that Trump would change the Supreme Court in a good way, but apart from that, he would not inspire and lead the nation to respect life.

What we really need is a courageous leader who can bring out the best in our country. I’m still looking…

 

[Convert_in_99]

I was not satisfied with Trump’s answer in the debate to the question about whether he wished to overturn Roe vs. Wade. If I recall correctly, he dodged the question, saying he would appoint pro-life Supreme Court justices, and “if they overturned it, it’ll go back to the states,” and “it will go back to the states, and the states will then make a determination.”

I believe this is code for “I wish to secure the pro-life vote by promising to appoint pro-life justices, but I don’t wish to scare away pro-choice voters, so I remind them that they will still be able to get abortions by traveling to pro-choice states.”

So I will say that Trump would change the Supreme Court in a good way, but apart from that, he would not inspire and lead the nation to respect life.

What we really need is a courageous leader who can bring out the best in our country. I’m still looking…

Yes! Well said!

 

[Michael68]

I agree with Post #110 completely! No message sent by a third party vote is ever received so its time to quit kidding yourselves!

 

[Giggly_Giraffe]

I agree with Post #110 completely! No message sent by a third party vote is ever received so its time to quit kidding yourselves!

Election after election, canidates get worse and worse. It’s time the electorials show how sick we are of the clowns getting to the top. After all, the Declaration of Independence does incourage us to change the system if it the will of the people.

Evan McMillian for President!

 

[Michael68]

Election after election, canidates get worse and worse. It’s time the electorials show how sick we are of the clowns getting to the top. After all, the Declaration of Independence does incourage us to change the system if it the will of the people.

Evan McMillian for President!

I’m sorry but he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance if you know what I mean.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I agree with Post #110 completely! No message sent by a third party vote is ever received so its time to quit kidding yourselves!

I’m not kidding!

Or am I? :ehh:

:whacky:

 

[Convert_in_99]

I’m sorry but he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance if you know what I mean.

Well it depends who’s throwing it.

 

[JSAD]

Yes! Well said!

Never let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Of course no one can ‘force’ you to vote in a certain way. But voting 3rd party is essentially throwing away your vote. It would be better not to vote at all.After all the vote or no vote is between you and God.

At least Trump has said he’s pro-life. One can only go with that and the choice of supreme court nominees. What has Hillary done?

If you vote for an unknown third party, that is how it will be … Unknown.

A few years from now, when religious liberties are completely taken away know well the ‘great’ third party candidate you voted for will not do anything. He/ She is powerless. The system is such.

All your doing by voting third party is making yourself feel good.

 

[Michael68]

Never let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Of course no one can ‘force’ you to vote in a certain way. But voting 3rd party is essentially throwing away your vote. It would be better not to vote at all.After all the vote or no vote is between you and God.

At least Trump has said he’s pro-life. One can only go with that and the choice of supreme court nominees. What has Hillary done?

If you vote for an unknown third party, that is how it will be … Unknown.

A few years from now, when religious liberties are completely taken away know well the ‘great’ third party candidate you voted for will not do anything. He/ She is powerless. The system is such.

All your doing by voting third party is making yourself feel good.

And might I add, it seems to give them liberty to chastise us who are actually doing something with our vote!

 

[Convert_in_99]

Never let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Of course no one can ‘force’ you to vote in a certain way. But voting 3rd party is essentially throwing away your vote. It would be better not to vote at all.After all the vote or no vote is between you and God.

At least Trump has said he’s pro-life. One can only go with that and the choice of supreme court nominees. What has Hillary done?

If you vote for an unknown third party, that is how it will be … Unknown.

A few years from now, when religious liberties are completely taken away know well the ‘great’ third party candidate you voted for will not do anything. He/ She is powerless. The system is such.

All your doing by voting third party is making yourself feel good.

:yeah_me: :thankyou: :curtsey:

 

[Giggly_Giraffe]

I’m sorry but he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance if you know what I mean.

Chance or no chance, it’s what I feel is best for my nation. I hope many others will also vote for what is best for the nation rather than a broken system.

, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

Declaration of Independence- USA

 

[Michael68]

Chance or no chance, it’s what I feel is best for my nation. I hope many others will also vote for what is best for the nation rather than a broken system. Declaration of Independence- USA

AC/DC wrote a song about fence sitters if (God Forbid) Rock and Roll was ever considered and banned as Noise Pollution!

 

[Convert_in_99]

And might I add, it seems to give them liberty to chastise us who are actually doing something with our vote!

We have defended ourselves against hell-fire being spat in our faces. We have been called pro-choice and pro-Hillary, even given guilt trips about the millions of babies that will die because of us and our third party votes. We have never chastised you. We can start if you’d like…

 

[Michael68]

We have defended ourselves against hell-fire being spat in our faces. We have been called pro-choice and pro-Hillary, even given guilt trips about the millions of babies that will die because of us and our third party votes. We have never chastised you. We can start if you’d like…

I’m sorry but your rants against Trump and his supporters tell a different story. You have even chastised me for my enthusiastic support of Trump.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I’m sorry but your rants against Trump and his supporters tell a different story. You have even chastised me for my enthusiastic support of Trump.

I’m against Trump and make it crystal clear, but I don’t call you pro-choice or pro-Hillary. I don’t go on and on about the millions of refugees that will be displaced and starve or innocent lives killed in nuclear wars because of voting for him, but now I am.

 

[Michael68]

I’m against Trump and make it crystal clear, but I don’t call you pro-choice or pro-Hillary. I don’t go on and on about the millions of refugees that will be displaced and starve or innocent lives killed in nuclear wars because of voting for him, but now I am.

You did say you worried about me and my pro Trump stance. I would consider that chastisement just as I have chastised you for being a fence sitter. Yes, you did it, so I’m not sure why you ask if you should start.

 

[Convert_in_99]

You did say you worried about me and my pro Trump stance. I would consider that chastisement just as I have chastised you for being a fence sitter. Yes, you did it, so I’m not sure why you ask if you should start.

Yes I worried about your stance, until I realized you didn’t much care for the guy but were just trying to keep Clinton out of office. That I respected, don’t agree but respect it.

Don’t defend Trump. You can vote for him to oust Clinton but Trump deserves no praise. But you more or less agreed and we were fine, but tonight you started up again.

 

[Michael68]

Yes I worried about your stance, until I realized you didn’t much care for the guy but were just trying to keep Clinton out of office. That I respected, don’t agree but respect it.

Don’t defend Trump. You can vote for him to oust Clinton but Trump deserves no praise. But you more or less agreed and we were fine, but tonight you started up again.

I’m sorry, its getting so close and Hillary can’t be president!