You really need to think about where that Bible you hold comes from and why you accept 27 books in your New Testament and not 22 or 30 or whatever. The early church up until about 350 AD had no Bible as we know it today, they had the teachings and letters of the church and the gospels, but mainly a living faith handed down from generation to generation.
Thank you for not putting as much pressure as some on me as some on this thread have done. I understand tough questions, but I’m not here to convert or argue with people. Only to inform and assure.
Brother, I know the position you placed yourself in. I visited a forum of Pentecostal pastors and started a thread entitled, ‘Ask a Catholic.’ I know how overwhelming it can be. Maybe you should read a bit before starting such a thread. It seems you might have some misconceptions about the Catholic faith. Catholics are taught, we cannot know who will go to heaven, and who will not.
Is this an attempt to convert me?
Point taken…many Catholics including myself are so used to protestants presenting falsehoods about the Catholic Church. Many believe that Catholicism wasn’t founded on the Bible and we worship the Pope. Thought you could possibly be heading that direction
I’m prepared for the poistion I put myself in. I just am not in the mood to be converted or to debate, unless it is intellucal and is on a question about my particular Religion.Brother, I know the position you placed yourself in. I visited a forum of Pentecostal pastors and started a thread entitled, ‘Ask a Catholic.’ I know how overwhelming it can be. Maybe you should read a bit before starting such a thread. It seems you might have some misconceptions about the Catholic faith. Catholics are taught, we cannot know who will go to heaven, and who will not.
The authority of Christ building His Church on Peter a thread in itself. As I said, ‘I converted in 1985.’ I’d be glad to answer as many questions as possible. I had the same questions at one time myself.
Welcome to CAF.
No, but a book you put so much faith in, you should know the history of, the context of, the audience of etc…
Only the Holy Spirit can convert. We are all where He wants us to be at this time.
The ask a question type thread opens too many topics at once, to discuss intellectually. It’s probably be better to hit topics one at a time.
I am pretty sure most everyone has asked questions which led to more questions which led to some potential for discussion. It’s nice of you to answer our questions, but you have to understand that these questions can run pretty deep.
I was in a Pentecostal church for several years and I know what pressure is! I had to leave for the sake of my sanity. Those who are glad to be charismatics or Pentecostals, “go knock yourselves out” but is just not my cup of tea.
You’re very welcome, KingJohn.
Okay, I’ll try to stay within the limits of asking you questions about your faith.
You’re very welcome, KingJohn.
It’s a sure thing that you and I aren’t going to agree on everything.
The first gift of tongues given to the apostles at Pentecost was meant to unite, not divide.
Because we’re human, even Catholics can put pressure on each other due to different styles and preferences of praying. I’ve had pressure placed on me because I also immensely enjoy Latin.
In this kind of thread, you invite people with all kinds of motives to jump in. Some will want to debate … and not for any bad motive, but just for the enjoyment of intellectual discussion. Others will in fact want to be ornery for whatever reason. And some will be enthusiastic as Catholics about sharing the Catholic Faith on the Catholic Answers Forum … these people are providing you with Catholic Answers, and many times it’s because they genuinely care about you.
My role in this thread? To hopefully show both yourself and my fellow Catholics that in my experience we should not simply dismiss the gifts and graces of the Holy Spirit out of hand … we should at least first learn about them.
Okay, I’ll try to stay within the limits of asking you questions about your faith.
Do Pentecostals believe that people can go to heaven outside the Pentecostal Church? Is tongues a necessary sign of salvation? What is the Pentecostal view of a Catholic’s having salvation in their faith in Christ?
Absoloutly. We believe if you give your life to Christ you are born again. However, you can lose Salvation if you fall too deep into sin and don’t repent. We believe Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and that no one can come through any other valley accept him.
Absoloutly not. It is an optional practice, as is Baptism.
Clarifiy. We believe you can have faith that Christ exists, but those who confess with their mouths that Jesus is Lord and admits their a sinner in need of help, they have salvation.
Hi LegoGE1947,I was in a Pentecostal church for several years and I know what pressure is! I had to leave for the sake of my sanity. Those who are glad to be charismatics or Pentecostals, “go knock yourselves out” but is just not my cup of tea.
Okay, now back on topic.What good does speaking in “tongues,” which simply means languages, do when millions claim to speak it yet not one can interpret another.
Thanks for the response!
Peter was specific with instructions about Baptism.