Being gay, lesbian, transgender

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jtwp5 said:
You act like the abuse has no factor into it.
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I don’t think that people have SSA because they were sexually abused. Most gay men I know weren’t sexually abused. I’m gay and I wasn’t sexually abused in any way.
 
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You might not have been but some were. Does a great disgrace to them saying it had no factor into it.
 
The state making civil marriage legal for same-sex couples certainly isn’t irrelevant to them because of the many legal protections and rights attached to marriage.
 
jtwp5 said:
You act like the abuse has no factor into it.
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Abuse has not factor in it. You only need to find one example of a gay person that has never been abused. I personally know of several.
 
It’s not a one size fit all. Just because it had no factor in yours doesn’t mean it had no factor in theirs.
 
jtwp5 said:
I have a friend who has SSA and he was abused when younger, don’t discredit victims.
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It’s not about that. If I pointed out a person that was abused in Ireland as a child, and then that person shows an affinity to redheads, you are saying it would be because of the abuse?
 
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You might not have been but some were. Does a great disgrace to them saying it had no factor into it.
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No one’s disputing that some homosexuals were sexually abused just like some heterosexuals were sexually abused. But people wouldn’t usually claim, for example, that a heterosexual woman who was sexually abused by a man as a child became heterosexual because of that abuse.
 
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thistle said:
People are born straight.
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Completely untrue and refuted dozens of times.
thistle said:
God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve.
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Are you a Creationist? Genesis is an allegorical myth. You’re basing your treatment of other people on that?
thistle said:
Gay people deserve the same rights as everyone else except the right to marry. There is no such thing as a marriage between same sexes and a civil authority making it legal is irrelevant. Making something legal does not make it moral.
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Are you OK with secular same sex marriage? Why do you want to infringe on someone else’s rights when your only reason for doing so is your personal religion and morality. Why should we all adhere to your morality. Most of us think your wrong.
Keep Catholic marriage as man/woman if you want. But why is the Church sticking it’s nose in secular marriage? Go away, it’s none of your business.
 
Okay maybe in some people’s eyes same sex marriage isn’t moral but I don’t see an issue with same sex marriage. It may not be moral but what about the rights of homosexuals we deserve the right to be happy just as much as heterosexuals. If we can marry and be happy, have children wether it’s through surrogacy or any other sort then should that not be what matters. Yes I understand it’s not what god wants for us or sees right for us but what about our lives what about what we feel is right for us. We have gay pride marches every year all over the globe just to be accepted and to fight for what we believe in and to be accepted and have the same rights and privileges as heterosexuals. It’s the 21st century things need to change… for the better!
 
Creating human beings out of the womb is selfish and immoral. Not to mention how many die in the process of in vitro fertilization.
 
So giving a child the chance to live and embrace the world is selfish? Regardless of how they are brought into the world? … just …wow!
 
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Denial of the recognition of human rights for any group of individuals is a denial of their humanity, which has a profound impact on health. For LGBT people, it may result in discrimination in housing and jobs (affecting the ability to purchase food, shelter, and health care); lack of benefits (affecting the ability to pay for health care and financial security); harassment and stress (affecting mental health) to say the least. Some companies won’t employ certain people because they are transgender or gay or lesbian
 
Supersam said:
Denial of the recognition of human rights for any group of individuals is a denial of their humanity, which has a profound impact on health. For LGBT people, it may result in discrimination in housing and jobs (affecting the ability to purchase food, shelter, and health care); lack of benefits (affecting the ability to pay for health care and financial security); harassment and stress (affecting mental health) to say the least. Some companies won’t employ certain people because they are transgender or gay or lesbian
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I agree. Just wanted a clarification 🙂
 
LateCatholic said:
People are born straight.
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Show me one legitimate refutation. You seem to think that a genetic cause for SSA [‘gay’ and ‘straight’ are your terms, not mine…] legitimizes everything because “We were born this way!”
Genes have been located that are responsible for many things, but SSA is not one of them. The overwhelming evidence is that it’s ‘nurture’ rather than ‘nature’.
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