Being gay, lesbian, transgender

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They should still dwindle if the descendants don’t produce children.
 
Considering that a lot of people with children have had attractions to the same sex…if there was a gay gene it would be passing down easily.

Also with our knowledge about genes, if you have a genetic marker of something it won’t mean that you would necessarily display the phenotype? So it’s possible that straight people with kids have the gene, assuming that it exists.
 
I have a friend who has SSA and he was abused when younger, don’t discredit victims.
 
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They should still dwindle if the descendants don’t produce children.
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So, why didn’t the number of gay people dwindle in the past? Are you suggesting that there used to be a lot more gay people in the past but now it’s down to the percentage that we have now, about 5%?
 
Probably because they married women so it was able to pass down better.
 
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boldlygo said:
Nonsense!!
Have you ever studied - really studied - genetics?
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I’m not a geneticist. But on this issue, I’m just taking the word of Edward O. Wilson, a professor emeritus in the Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University. He brings up the issue of homosexuality in his book On Human Nature, 2nd edition (Harvard University Press, 2004) and says that homosexuality may be “a distinctive beneficent behavior that evolved as an important element of early human social organization”. You’ll have to read his book for his full argument. But he’s the one that says that the genes of homosexual people would be passed down through their siblings.
 
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I have a friend who has SSA and he was abused when younger, don’t discredit victims.
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He’s not discrediting victims. He’s discrediting the notion that gay people become gay because they were sexuality abused or because they were “recruited” by other gay people.
 
Being gay has nothing to do with being abused. I am a lesbian but haven’t been abused? I will always believe I was born this way. if it’s a choice then I’m guessing all heterosexuals choose to be straight? So as someone else mentioned… if your straight then stop and try and be gay and like the same sex… you simply can’t can you? Why? Because it’s not a choice. We don’t wake up and say oh let’s like same sex people today just like straight people don’t wake up and say oh let’s like opposite sex People today.
 
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Why do you think being gay is a choice?
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People are born straight. God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve.
Christ makes it clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. Church doctrine (with the full authority of Christ behind it) clearly states that homosexuality is disordered.

By the way I did not say people become gay because it’s a choice. I said they become gay as a result of upbringing, environment, and choice (one or more of these things).

Gay people deserve the same rights as everyone else except the right to marry. There is no such thing as a marriage between same sexes and a civil authority making it legal is irrelevant. Making something legal does not make it moral.
 
Learner1969 said:
I have personality disorder, are you saying that disorder is by choice too?
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The science behind what is and is not considered to be a “personality disorder” is disputed. Much like medical or psychological opinions in regards to homosexuality, transexuality and other such issues.

This really isn’t hard science where there is agreement as to facts.
 
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thistle said:
I said they become gay as a result of upbringing, environment, and choice (one or more of these things).
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This is quite a simplistic statement to make. It’s most likely an interaction of biological and environmental factors
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The science behind what is and is not considered to be a “personality disorder” is disputed. Much like medical or psychological opinions in regards to homosexuality, transexuality and other such issues.
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Yeah, there’s very little information about the causes of a lot of personality disorders atm, there’s small pieces of evidence that support both nature/nurture theories.
 
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God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve.
Christ makes it clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. Church doctrine (with the full authority of Christ behind it) clearly states that homosexuality is disordered.
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Also, being born a particular way doesn’t necessarily contradict the view that it’s disordered or rather, against the original design.
 
At the same time you can’t exactly say that you can become gay due to your environment for example the people you are around. I have plenty of straight friends so if that was the case why am I not straight. Same goes for them if environment and the people you surround yourself with is what can contribute to being gay then why is my straight friend not gay? She can be with a group of 7/8 of us whom are gay and she’s straight and has had a bf for 5 years so I don’t agree with that at all. Also my brother and sister are straight I am gay so if it was a case of upbringing etc we would all be gay or I would be straight.
 
Like I said in a previous post the best person to ask is a SSA person as they would know if it is their choice or not.
 
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