Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

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Let’s see. No new wars. Economy better than it has been in generations, until interrupted by Covid. Stock market still up 10,000+.

I would add letting the Little Sisters off the Obama abortifacient mandate, reinstatement of the Mexico City policy, allowing states to defund Planned Parenthood, appointment of prolife justices, but I can see that those things are nothing in your view.
PaulinVA said:
To me, it is so obvious that Trump should not be President
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So obvious, I guess, that one does not need to actually have cogent reasons. It’s just true because it’s true and, after all, the MSM says it’s true.
tomarin said:
I don’t think the church would want us to support such a fundamentally dishonest and incompetent man;
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No reasons. Just going to vote for abortion because you think without any reason, that Trump is dishonest and incompetent. But it has to be admitted that the Church does not permit voting in support of abortion. It does not equate alleged dishonesty and incompetence with killing.
 
PaulinVA said:
You weren’t asking me, but…

I am voting for Biden/Harris despite their stand on abortion and other things.

To me, it is so obvious that Trump should not be President, should never have been President.

As to abortion, how much influence does the President/VP have over the issue? I am not in favor of packing the Supreme Court or Federal Courts with one political ideology, and we are close to that now. Abortion is down. Local efforts are having an effect.
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Ditto…
 
I could list lots of reasons (and have over the last few years) but I know you will never admit Trump to be anything less than a Trumanesque figure so I will not bother.
 
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tomarin said:
I could list lots of reasons (and have over the last few years) but I know you will never admit Trump to be anything less than a Trumanesque figure so I will not bother.
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PaulinVA said:
Ditto…
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That’s okay boys. When I die I’ll have to confess to the God of all Creation that I supported a politician whom his enemies accused of telling lies, some of which might have been accurate accusations and whom some said was incompetent and might have been in some ways I couldn’t tell but perhaps should have. And Lord, I further confess that I thought that politician might benefit me and my family and for that reason I voted for him despite the clear exaggerations and possible lies. Preserving the lives of unborn children Lord? Yes, that too.

When you die you can tell the Lord of Hosts that you believed a politician was a liar and an incompetent and for that reason voted for other politicians who supported killing a million children annually.

Life has its choices, and we make them and must accept the consequences.
 
Wow, @Ridgerunner, playing the “You’re going to hell” card.

I’m just going to set you to ignore and wish you a good day.
 
With regard to real estate values being driven down, at which time in your life was this the case, that is, how many years ago?

And concerning Biden’s opposition to Thomas, are we talking about the same Joe Biden who mercilessly grilled Anita Hill during her testimony about the sexual harassment of Thomas in the workplace? There is a reason why Biden is still looked at suspiciously by women’s groups and progressives even today.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
With regard to real estate values being driven down, at which time in your life was this the case, that is, how many years ago?
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Wow! Probably a good 30 years ago.

Regarding Thomas, I’m only saying what I read. Seems Biden is now trying to walk back anything offensive to Hill back when Biden conducted the hearing on Thomas. He more recently claims to regret that he “couldn’t come up with a way” to give Hill “the kind of hearing she deserved.”

But then, Biden promised to support Bork too, but then turned on him. So switching ponies isn’t new to Biden.
 
And isn’t new to Trump either, a former supporter of Hillary Clinton: so they’re even in this respect.

My point regarding real estate is that maybe times have changed from 30 years ago, but Trump is still living in the past, the era of Richard Nixon and George Wallace, when suburban Whites did fear Blacks moving into their neighborhood.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
My point regarding real estate is that maybe times have changed from 30 years ago, but Trump is still living in the past.
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I sure doubt it. By reason of what I do now, I see a lot of subdivisions created and see how they’re laid out. Even when they allow multifamily, those are separated from the single family pretty rigorously, oftentimes with visibility and/or space barriers. It’s not that strange. Multifamily homes in upscale neighborhoods are usually occupied by retirees or very young people. The very young families are the ones who can be disruptive to older families.
 
But not disruptive to retirees? Why would older families find younger families disruptive?
 
Thbolt said:
There is question about this? Seriously? 167,000 dead Americans from covid and 20000 lies and you don’t see incompetent and dishonest?
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You are wasting your time arguing with people on this issue. Abortion is a Tunnel Vision issue. Nothing else matters. Trump could declare himself the Vicar of Christ and people would still vote for him just on the Abortion issue alone.

And he is coming close to that proclamation.

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You were only practicing fraternal correction RR we as Catholics are called do so.👍
 
Thbolt said:
There is question about this? Seriously? 167,000 dead Americans from covid and 20000 lies and you don’t see incompetent and dishonest?
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So you’re blaming Trump for the deaths when the U.S. is 13th in that category (and has much better recordkeeping than most) and is not even in the top 20 when it comes to new cases?

But let’s talk about competence. He defeated ISIS. He kept us out of new wars. He is winding down our involvement in Af/Pak. He has increased EU contributions to NATO. He has reversed much of the trade deficit with China. He has engineered a new treaty between Israel and UAE. He has replaced NAFTA with a more advantageous agreement. He imposed the China travel ban when Biden was calling it “racist” to do that. He found a deflated pandemic program and got new production of treatment and equipment production going. He built several hundred miles of border wall and reduced illegal immigration dramatically. He improved employment to the point that black employment is the highest it has ever been and Hispanic employment is the highest since the 1970s. The U.S. has become energy independent. But you’re a Democrat so you want to think he’s incompetent. No surprise there.
Thbolt said:
I wouldn’t sweat it. I quoted Archbishop McElroy discussing using a well-formed conscience to make the decision when voting and Ridge here called it Protestant.
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I have looked at innumerable lists of “Trump’s lies” all assembled by Democrat organizations and most of them are simply disagreements. NYT disagrees with Trump’s implementation of the Ninth Circuit Flores decree, and it calls it a “lie”. Some are, indeed, hyperbole, and some are just plain wrong.

I didn’t say McElroy is “protestant”. You’re the one who said that. Yes, I know, you wanted me to say it, but I didn’t. What I did say, and I say it again, the concept of primacy of conscience is protestant, not Catholic. The Catholic Church claims to have teaching authority given it by Jesus Himself. Protestantism is relativistic; “If I think it’s right, it’s right”. That’s not Church teaching.
RidgeSprinter said:
Abortion is a Tunnel Vision issue.
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Oh not so. Prolife people are well aware of other defects in the Democrat position. It’s just that killing children is, as the U.S. Bishops have said, “the preeminent issue” in this election cycle.
 
meltzerboy2 said:
But not disruptive to retirees? Why would older families find younger families disruptive?
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Younger people are disruptive. They’re the ones who have the audible domestic disturbances. They engage in a lot more vehicular traffic. There is less space for their children to play in, so they concentrate. But there is also an aesthetic issue with multifamily. It’s difficult to retain the same “look” with multifamily. I got an exception for a lot I own and built a duplex on in a single family subdivision. I created a distinctly single-family appearance, which is easier with a duplex than with, say, an apartment building. But it still isn’t easy.
 
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