Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

[AlNg]

Why would older families find younger families disruptive?

Percussion music blasting at all hours.

 

[Theo520]

Hmmm…I just saw this in the NY Times:

She doesn’t have charisma, she was mostly single digits during DNC Primary polling and had real trouble with fundraising.

I suspect the recent biden funding blip is a bit orchestrated, that people were encouraged to donate AFTER this milestone in the biden campaign. It would have happened with any pick, even HRC

 

[Ridgerunner]

I know you feel the need to add in other countries to make Trump not look as bad.

A terrible thing to say. I was remembering the number from the Johns Hopkins site. Looks like I missed it by two countries. But that’s not sufficient reason to call me a liar.

To anyone who wants to see the real numbers, here they are.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cor...i59j69i60l4.2943j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I didn’t say that you said McElroy is Protestant, but what he said you called Protestant.

No. Not that either. What I really said was that what YOU said expressed a protestant concept, not a Catholic one. You later disclosed that it was said by McElroy. Guess that was your “gotcha” of the day, assuming you quoted him correctly. But if that’s what he said and if the context is right, then it does express a protestant view of the primacy of conscience. Since the other bishops disagreed with him, then there’s a fair chance I was right.

 

[Ridgerunner]

It hasn’t been #13 a long time and you’ve posted on it many times, so it is reasonable to assume that you would remember it.

That’s twice now that you have said I’m lying. I’m not a flagger, but do it one more time and I’ll flag you. There’s no call for that.

It was quoted correctly and you said it was Protestant.

I never said it wasn’t, though you didn’t attribute the statement to McElroy at first. I stand by what I said and it appears the other bishops agree with what I said. Abp McElroy’s proffered statement was excluded from their statement on voting.

 

[RidgeSprinter]

It was quoted correctly and you said it was Protestant. The full article was posted that it was taken from Bishop McElroy on voting with faith and a conscience | National Catholic Reporter

That was a great read. Indepth and thought provoking

 

[WingedHussar]

Mandatory reminder that there is no evidence that Thomas Jefferson was the father of Hemming’s children is mandatory.

 

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And I got accused manipulating the graph.

 

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and the other graph
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[pnewton]

Yet we have a lot that claim racism is a thing of the past.

 

[pnewton]

Just going to vote for abortion because you think without any reason, that Trump is dishonest and incompetent.

A reminder, abortion is not listed on any ballot.

 

[TMC]

Mandatory reminder that there is no evidence that Thomas Jefferson was the father of Hemming’s children is mandatory.

No, first, it is not “mandatory,” nor is it true. There is plenty of historical evidence that Jefferson and Hemings had a sexual relationship that resulted in children. While there are still some people that dispute it, the weight of the evidence is that Jefferson fathered six children with her. Here is a short summary of the evidence:

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www.monticello.org

 

[Theo520]

good link but they are using an unusual/limited list of countries in their chart. The table further down the page seems far more comprehensive.

I prefer this site for comparing countries across the globe, but it doesn’t include case fatality rates.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[WingedHussar]

So no DNA evidence linking Thomas Jefferson, and the story was first raised by political enemies. Yeah, you are gonna have to do better than that.

 

[1cthlctrth]

That’s kind of nutty. Ranked by whom? Further left than Bernie?

It’s laughable that Harris would be ranked most liberal by anyone.

She’s pretty far left. I can’t think of too many positions that would be farther left than hers.

Come on now. Kamala Harris is more liberal than Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren?

• Harris’ 100% pro-abortion rating from NARAL; 0% pro-life rating from National Right To Life
• Kamala Harris co-sponsored the Green New Deal, which is estimated to cost each American household an average of $60,000 per year for the next 10 years ($94 trillion cost to America in total) with the lifestyle adjustments we’d have to make
• Harris wants BOTH open borders AND free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Are we supposed to fund the entire world’s healthcare? How are we and our children supposed to pay for all that?
• her exploits with Willie Brown, allegedly helping Harris to advance in her career, more than cancels out any complaints leftists may use against our great President
• instead, of prosecuting Planned Parenthood in 2016, as Attorney General of California, Harris was behind the raid of David Daleiden’s apartment, in which authorities seized a laptop and several hard drives that contained the videos he filmed as part of his expose of Planned Parenthood. Some of the confiscated drives contained “some very damning footage that has yet to be released to the public,” he said at the time.

 

[RidgeSprinter]

go to the website itself. It explains why above the graphs

Then go to the bottom it has sortable data

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

 

[Ridgerunner]

A reminder, abortion is not listed on any ballot.

A vote for the supporter is a vote for the act.

 

[upant]

Of course it does. Catholicism is pro-life.

how is abortion, euthanasia, destruction of the family, ssm, etc. pro-life?

they all end life or stop its creation…

an OPPORTUNIST with no moral or ethical code, and plays on the fears and prejudices of Americans

sounds like Kamala

We do not live in a Catholic theocracy … or any other theocracy for that matter. Thank the Lord! … and the Founding Fathers.

that doesn’t allow Catholics to support policies that go against Catholic teaching

As to abortion, how much influence does the President/VP have over the issue?

so you agree with the rest of the DNC agenda? transgender, SSM, euthanasia, contraceptive healthcare, etc. do you agree with the current push to have catholic hospitals perform operations that go against its teachings?

I could list lots of reasons

Ditto…

I would like to see how you justify the policies that go against church teaching that Biden supports.

Seriously? 167,000 dead Americans from covid and 20000 lies and you don’t see incompetent and dishonest?

50 million a year are dead because of abortion worldwide. 600,000 a year in the US. no comparison

how many of the dead covid were the result of the incompetent democratic state and local leaders?

I quoted Archbishop McElroy discussing using a well-formed conscience to make the decision when voting

did you miss where the catholic bishops prioritized abortion as the number 1 issue? McElroy didn’t get his way with the bishops.

Most of your accomplishments disregard the lowering standard of America in the world or accomplishments that took place before the economy crashed because of the inept response to coronavirus.

you mean we stopped kissing up to other countries and made them pay their fair share instead of paying them off with billions of tax-payers doctors for their supposedly favored view, which really didn’t change their views or actions towards us

Why would older families find younger families disruptive?

why are their 55+ communities?

 

[upant]

A reminder, abortion is not listed on any ballot.

60 million Americans can’t vote because of abortion since roe. v wade

600,000 a year sacrificed in the US, 50 million a year worldwide (2014), 60 million in the US since RvW.

staggering numbers but abortion isn’t an issue, yet, democratic politicians keep expanding it and Biden will federally fund it,

yes, it is a current political issue that has consequences based on this election.

besides, what about the rest of the anti-catholic policies? why do they get a free pass?

Now, where do you get the idea that the conscience isn’t primary in making a decision on how to vote.

because there are non-negotiables.

“Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the -application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia” = Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion, General Principles

 

[Abrosz]

that doesn’t allow Catholics to support policies that go against Catholic teaching

The Catholic voters are STILL free agents, and they answer only to God for the selections they make.

 

[upant]

There are those that are saying proportional reasons exist for voting based on other moral reasons defined by Church teaching instead of just abortion.

what is proportionate to abortion and euthanasia? Cardinal Ratzinger didn’t allow an exception for these. proportionate would only be if both were pro-abortion

The idea of a ‘non-negotiable’ as applied to voting is made by Catholic laypersons and not by the leaders in the Church.

Cardinal Ratzinger listed 2 and St. Pope John Paul II is clear on it (bold mine). these are obviously not laypeople. notice social issues don’t hold a candle to the right to life.

The inviolability of the person which is a reflection of the absolute inviolability of God, fínds its primary and fundamental expression in the inviolability of human life. Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights-for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture- is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with maximum determination.

Biden says he will federally fund abortion, what do you think this will do the number of abortions? how many more abortions will there be worldwide over Biden’s stand on the Mexico City policy?

why doesn’t someone explain how they can defend the SSM, LGBT, euthanasia, transgenderism, etc policies of Biden and the DNC. these go against church teaching.

it isn’t just abortion folks.

The Catholic voters are STILL free agents, and they answer only to God for the selections they make.

yes, they will!