Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

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Yet the fact that the whole Russian collusion has been verifiably disproven,yet continues to be pushed via the leftist Dems ,is largely ignored and denied by those who so desperately need to getvTrump out of office. is ok huh?
Why are you talking about Russian collusion when we’re talking about Trump subverting American institutions and possibly our democracy?

I never mentioned Russian collusion. I just gave you examples from this week.
 
Nice deflection,given this hoax has dominated every aspect of Tump’s presidency since before he took office.The fact that he has very valid concerns re voter fraud is due to the underhanded efforts by the ,left/ Dems to do any and everything to wrest back control. I’m very worried that they will cheat their way into office,everybody should be concerned.Its diabolical what going on.The Russian hoax is part of the voter fraud issue
 
@ Jeanne_S , it’s Trump who appointed a mega-donor to be Postmaster General , a Postmaster General who is dismantling the infrastructure the USPS needs to deliver mail. Trump has tweeted this strategy.

That is something you can’t ignore if you are concerned about the integrity of the election. Right out in the open, your President is announcing that he is sabotaging the mail-in vote.

Be concerned about that, not some imagined voter fraud issue.
 
It’s not imagined, Dr Fauchi everybody expert has said there is no reason one cannot vote safely in person.Trump is justified in wanting this option.Its the Dems pushing for all mail in voting,which the postal service has already warned will be problematic. At any rate,I just got a message that you and I are dominating this thread,so unless somebody else jumps in,no point in going any further.
 
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I realize his policies are favorable to myself and my family and to unborn children. If he’s a hypocrite in those things, well, so was JFK. But in truth, you really don’t know what his moral code is.

But no matter what, and no matter whether he’s a hypocrite or not, I will not support the killing of children with my vote. That’s why I left the party. I realized I could no longer be faithful to the teachings of the Church and the party. No Catholic can be.
 
Different times. The Evangelicals are firmly in the pocket of the right.

Their religious convictions- rugged individualism, protestant work ethic, homey American sensibilities- all align them to the right.
 
This graph does seem to be missing a lot of places (Spain, Italy, Andorra, Belgium, France)
Yes I noticed that too:
But read the part above the graphs:

Mortality in the most affected countries​

For the twenty countries currently most affected by COVID-19 worldwide, the bars in the chart below show the number of deaths either per 100 confirmed cases (observed case-fatality ratio) or per 100,000 population (this represents a country’s general population, with both confirmed cases and healthy people). Countries at the top of this figure have the most deaths proportionally to their COVID-19 cases or population, not necessarily the most deaths overall.
One has to note Key words and tricky phrases.
In this case "most affected"

So why
did they omit a lot of places a lot of places (Spain, Italy, Andorra, Belgium, France)

Well it boils down to general fact that none of the websites that give you data on Corona Data are going to give you everything you need.

So if you go to bottom of the screen and sort by DEATHS/100K POP in the descending direction ( not sure you can sort this on a phone, I work strictly from a laptop with 3 monitors at my disposal ) US is 10th on the list compared to 4th on the graph.

So why is Italy missing? Well I found this by accident months ago when I got sent home to work from home.

I was on “Bing” by default and typed in “corona data” and some nice data popped up.
So let’s look at Italy.
Go to “Bing” type in “corona data italy”
https://www.bing.com/search?q=coron...s=n&sk=&cvid=0f4fdcc4fd09430ba7271535737cfd08
and you get this: ( which pulls data from the WHO, ECDC, etc. )
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Then I was curious and clicked on the graph on the right and you get this
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They for all intentional purposes have flattened the curve, which takes them out of “Most Affected” consideration. ( of course I am second guessing John Hopkins, but it does make sense )

then click on the “deaths” next to “confirmed” and you see that the death curve is flat:
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That’s why I left the party. I realized I could no longer be faithful to the teachings of the Church and the party. No Catholic can be.
I know you keep saying that but you have never posted anything but support- not just for rightist politicians- but rightist positions.

Were you a Democrat who just fundamentally disagreed with every position they took?
 
As a Californian, I have a poor opinion of Kamala. Her convictions shift like the wind. She is ambitious and unprincipled.
 
Kamala Harris co-sponsored the Green New Deal, which is estimated to cost each American household an average of $60,000 per year for the next 10 years ($94 trillion cost to America in total) with the lifestyle adjustments we’d have to make
Says who?
her exploits with Willie Brown, allegedly helping Harris to advance in her career, more than cancels out any complaints leftists may use against our great President
That’s just pure nonsense! Has Ms. Harris (who was single) bragged about grabbing men? Consider the hijinks of the thrice-married Trump.
instead, of prosecuting Planned Parenthood in 2016,
Why don’t you say “Instead of prosecuting Catholic prelates …”

I thought your remark (and what was being discussed) was about Harris’ voting record – you’re off the topic.
 
We’re still waiting for the Church teaching that says
Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:

by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
by protecting evil-doers

Formal cooperation refers to agreement in the will regarding the evil act. We may never assist another person in an external sinful act, and intend its sinfulness. Such formal cooperation is always sinful, a sin against charity (scandal), as well as of the same kind as the act in which one cooperates. For example, to willingly drive someone to get an abortion, to pay for it, encourage it (if it determines their will to do it), defend the doing of it etc. is gravely sinful, both against charity and against life.

Any direct close cooperation in the sinful act of another, while claiming not to embrace the evil intention, is tantamount to formal cooperation. For example, lending the money for an abortion out of a motive of friendship, is inseparable from the allow abortion.

Cooperation in the sinful act of another by material support which is remote, that is, not intimately connected to the evil act is sinful. However, under certain conditions it can be tolerated.

The act by which cooperation is rendered is not itself sinful; that is, it has two effects; the good one is chosen, the bad one is tolerated.
There is a proportionately serious reason to justify tolerating the evil of another.
The danger of scandal is avoided, by protest, explanation, or some other means
https://www.ewtn.com/vote/moral-cooperation-in-evil.asp
 
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So all members of that sorority have to march in lockstep because they’re black? None of them are allowed to be Repubs or prolife?
You probably have not heard what those members have been saying. Their president stated:

"On behalf of over 300,000 members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., I congratulate U.S. Senator Kamala Harris on being selected as running mate for Joe Biden. This is a great day for our country, a great day African Africans and for women.

Senator Harris’ selection is a full-circle moment for HBCUs and African-American Greek organizations that worked tirelessly to give the Black community a voice from the turn of the century, through Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement, to the present day.

As the president of Tennessee State University, a premiere HBCU, and as international president of AKA, of which Senator Harris is a member, I am doubly proud of this selection. I also commend Joe Biden for his insight to bring someone of Senator Harris’ stature to the ticket. She is intelligent, experienced, charismatic and above all qualified for the job.

African-American women have been the backbone of this country, and now an African-American woman has the opportunity to ascend to the second-highest office in the nation, with the opportunity to create policies that will impact us for generations to come. While AKA does not endorse any particular candidate or party, we are extremely proud of Senator Harris."
 
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I know you keep saying that but you have never posted anything but support- not just for rightist politicians- but rightist positions.

Were you a Democrat who just fundamentally disagreed with every position they took?
Oh no. I was a “true believer”. The thing is that the Dem party has changed so much over the years that it no longer resembles its former self. Weirdly, the parties have changed positions over the years, at least in part. The Repubs of today are closer to what the Dem party used to be than the Dem party now is. The Dems of today most resemble the “Rockefeller Repubs” of long ago, with the admixture of a heavy dose of gender politics.
 
I get it. No black woman who used to belong to AKA is anything other than a left Democrat. Do they all look alike too? :roll_eyes: I have my doubts.
 
Voting for a pro-choice candidate for reasons other than their position on abortion is, at worst, remote cooperation with evil and not a sinful act and can be tolerated.
Incorrect according to the text I quoted. Incorrect according to Pope Benedict. Incorrect according to the U.S. bishops.
 
I get it. No black woman who used to belong to AKA is anything other than a left Democrat. Do they all look alike too? :roll_eyes: I have my doubts.
You should ask an AKA. I have. They certainly do not all look alike.

“Used to belong”? That shows an unfamiliarity with that sorority and the Divine 9.
 
No, you did demonstrate it to be anything other than remote cooperation with evil in the text you quoted. It said nothing about voting and is not intimately connected with the evil act. You need to expand on that if you are making an argument that it is more than remote cooperation with evil.

If you claim that the bishops or the Pope says otherwise, please provide the full text.
I see. No matter what is cited, you will just deny that it means what it says.
There is a proportionately serious reason to justify tolerating the evil of another.
You keep ignoring the crucial thing. Voting for abortion is morally tolerable only when there is a proportionate reason to do it. Both Pope Benedict and the above citation say that. Again:

Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:

by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
by protecting evil-doers

Formal cooperation refers to agreement in the will regarding the evil act. We may never assist another person in an external sinful act, and intend its sinfulness. Such formal cooperation is always sinful, a sin against charity (scandal), as well as of the same kind as the act in which one cooperates. For example, to willingly drive someone to get an abortion, to pay for it, encourage it (if it determines their will to do it), defend the doing of it etc. is gravely sinful, both against charity and against life.

Any direct close cooperation in the sinful act of another, while claiming not to embrace the evil intention, is tantamount to formal cooperation. For example, lending the money for an abortion out of a motive of friendship, is inseparable from the allow abortion.

Cooperation in the sinful act of another by material support which is remote, that is, not intimately connected to the evil act is sinful. However, under certain conditions it can be tolerated.

“The act by which cooperation is rendered is not itself sinful; that is, it has two effects; the good one is chosen, the bad one is tolerated.
There is a proportionately serious reason to justify tolerating the evil of another.
The danger of scandal is avoided, by protest, explanation, or some other means”

Now, what’s your reason that’s truly proportionate to the murder of a million children per year?
 
You ever hear Ben Stein on Obama? He said that he was glad the nation had moved that far but said he would not vote for him. That’s a thought.
 
which is why the bishops rejected Abp McElroy’s proposition 143-69. But as I quoted above, even McElroy condemned the Democrat embrace of abortion.

His reason, he said, for not joining with the majority is saying abortion is the preeminent issue in this election cycle, was, he averred, fear that political forces would “hijack” the issue, and then went on to ignore the “hijacking” of other issues like climate change.

But I do realize almost nothing will change Catholics who have decided to support abortion. Probably it will require the passing of a generation and the formal loss of a lot of them to protestantism before Catholics have stopped excusing themselves for participating in the murder of children.
 
Some folks are just tone deaf:

"A Virginia mayor apologized for his comments that he said were “offensive and unbecoming” about presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s vice president pick. Despite his apologies, several people have called for his resignation for the racially insensitive Facebook post.

Luray, Virginia, Mayor Barry Presgraves apologized a little over a week after posting on his Facebook page a facetious announcement that Biden “just announced Aunt Jemima” as his running mate. According to news station WTOP, Presgraves said he thought the post, accompanied by a meme, was humorous. By the time he met with his town council Monday, he said he realized his misjudgment."

 
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