Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

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If one has to pick the mayor of a town of 4,000 people to find a Republican who made a racist comment, the Repubs sure must be a non-racists bunch! 🙂
 
You ever hear Ben Stein on Obama? He said that he was glad the nation had moved that far but said he would not vote for him. That’s a thought
It’s a fair position to take. I would have said the same for Britain’s first woman prime minister.
 
What is more subversive of American Institutions than:
  • the politicizing of the CIA and FBI to spy on a presidential campaign - using and paying foreign nationals [Steele and Russians] for material on that campaign - by the administration’s backed candidate [Hillary], the DNC and tax payer funds through the FBI?
  • using the FISA court fraudulently to continue the spying on an elected president including falsification of evidence?
  • Having members of congress [Schiff being primary] after being briefed - lying to the American people about ‘facts’ that were neither facts nor true?
  • CIA and FBI leaking information that was known to be untrue and false in order to make the candidate/then president look guilty of crimes they know he did not commit?
  • Using the FBI to spy, set them up, lie to them and entrap people in order to gain political gain and ruin their lives - threaten their families, force them into bankruptcy etc?
  • Needlessly spending $40 million for the Mueller Investigation of Trump Russian collusion they knew before it began was a lie, untrue and a fabrication spawned by Steele Dossier which was ‘foreign’ interference in our election that was bought and paid for Hillary, the DNC and our own government FBI?
It is not Trump that is subversive of American Institutions - that was accomplished years ago …

And look where many of those subversives [and or their significant others] work now … MSNBC, CNN - the are all in with the mainstream media that has perpetrated these false stories and participated in spreading the leaked disinformation
 
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If one has to pick the mayor of a town of 4,000 people to find a Republican who made a racist comment, the Repubs sure must be a non-racists bunch!
You haven’t seen the multiple threads here from questionable media about supposedly racist incidents in isolated small towns? Why don’t you reply in the same manner to those threads?

Are you saying this is the only outre remark made about Ms. Harris recently? Maybe you missed Trump reinvigorating birtherism as to her.
 
One has to note Key words and tricky phrases.
In this case "most affected"
You are making up your own definition of “most affected”, likely to rationalize a deceptive graph.

However you look at the comparative data, that graph has a queer selection of countries.

Whether you look at Cases/Mill pop or Deaths/Mill Pop, you a very different set of top countries.
UK isn’t even in the top 50
 
As a Californian, I have a poor opinion of Kamala. Her convictions shift like the wind. She is ambitious and unprincipled.
Is she more ambitious and unprincipled than most politicians? Is she more ambitious and unprincipled than Donald Trump? Almost all politicians are ambitious and have big egos. And most of them will change their positions on issues to win elections.
 
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Shame, shame on ANY woman who is ambitious. They should know their place in this world.
 
Yes, she is more ambitious than most politicians. She knowingly tried to destroy Brett Kavanaugh in his Senate confirmation hearings, and used those hearings and slandered a good man as her audition for the presidency… The accusations against him were completely baseless – and were proven so after the hearings were over. She used an adulterous affair as her entry into politics. And the list goes on. She is pro-choice and has exhibited prejudice against Catholics. Her position on abortion is anti-Catholic (i.e., “Thou shall not kill.”) She is boosting up a man with obvious dementia for her own ambitions. Even her own father has publicly denounced Kamala’s methods of self-promotion. Yes, she is a poor choice for Vice President.
 
the politicizing of the CIA and FBI to spy on a presidential campaign - using and paying foreign nationals [Steele and Russians] for material on that campaign - by the administration’s backed candidate [Hillary], the DNC and tax payer funds through the FBI?
The FBI doesn’t “spy”. They conduct investigations. it’s. In. Their. Name.
using the FISA court fraudulently to continue the spying on an elected president including falsification of evidence?
See above.
Needlessly spending $40 million for the Mueller Investigation of Trump Russian collusion they knew before it began was a lie, untrue and a fabrication spawned by Steele Dossier which was ‘foreign’ interference in our election that was bought and paid for Hillary, the DNC and our own government FBI?
Please take into account the money and property that was seized as part of the guilty pleas.

Oh, and nothing you listed has anything to do with the President trying to subvert the election.
 
Biden and Harris. Both supporters of abortion, supporters of same sex marriage, supporters of forcing Catholic nuns to pay for contraceptives. Not a Catholic values oriented ticket.
Thank you for getting back to the real issue, though the last one was never a single vote issue. Unfortunately, compromise is inherent in a pluralistic society. I hope we have a president again sometime that understands that we need more unity, even at the expense of everything being perfect.
No one has yet to provide and cogent reasons why JB would be preferable.
There have been good arguments for this, though not one you would consider reasonable. Your opinion does not mean that no such reasoning exists. No one who uses the Trump buzzwords as if they contained meaning would agree with them.
I know you keep saying that but you have never posted anything but support- not just for rightist politicians- but rightist positions.
Not completely true. He has not followed the GOP line completely.
You keep ignoring the crucial thing. Voting for abortion is morally tolerable only when there is a proportionate reason to do it.
And you keep ignoring that we do not vote “for abortion.” It is still not on the ballot. There is a premise that is implied in your syllogism that is not proven - that voting for a candidate must be equated to voting for abortion, or not. People are not issues. Above, you were characterized by your posts as a position, not a person. Likewise, it is most uncharitable to say, “But I do realize almost nothing will change Catholics who have decided to support abortion,” if you refer to anyone here. You are right for those who are a part of groups like Catholics for a free choice, but quite wrong if you are referring to anyone who will not support Trump, or any other particular Republican, for office. That is no more just that saying that nothing will change for the Catholics that keep supporting racism.
 
I have studied history at university (european, not american though). And I do know about the one drop-rule etc. But I was trying to make a point about that being nonsense.
 
Its not conducting lawful investigations when government lawyers are lying, falsifying documents and illegally leaking and paying foreign agents for information they know is false and originally bought by a political rival … Real investigations do not involve falsifying documents presented to a court - that is an illegal action and as such TAINTS all aspects and any information gathered from that ill gotten information … and that type of activity permeated the 2016 election - before and after

Subverting the election was what the Obama administration did in 2016 … and in my opinion are attempting to do again … we can discuss the various ways we might see the actors on the left and the right trying to gain a win in the election … but as for your claim of Trump being the person to subvert American Institutions - as I said … that happened long ago - before Trump
 
But I do realize almost nothing will change Catholics who have decided to support abortion. Probably it will require the passing of a generation and the formal loss of a lot of them to protestantism before Catholics have stopped excusing themselves for participating in the murder of children.
Two things I will never understand. One is the continued support by Catholics for a party which has embraced so many positions morally abhorrent to Catholic teaching. Second is the continued support of African Americans for a party which embraces the killing of their young; it’s just what Margaret Sanger had in mind when establishing the organization that became Planned Parenthood.
 
a Postmaster General who is dismantling the infrastructure the USPS needs to deliver mail.
This is nonsense, the standard changed years ago. Plants and small offices have been shutting down for a decade. The inept management didn’t use the new standard and caused the debt they are now in. It isn’t new but it is needed.

Ballots have always been an issue for the USPS. They give them special attention and still can’t get them delivered.

They are crying Covid but even when overstaffed they used excessive overtime. It is mismanaged and needs changing.
 
Yet, the bishops were not voting on this
They were voting on making abortion the pre-eminent issue and did
Archbishop McElroy has a very strong point that the disruption from climate change could results in a great deal more deaths than abortion
What strong point? Data is available on both sides that should make people follow the money trail. It doesn’t compare to 50 million a year aborted right now.
You’re welcome to use your prudential judgement to decide how to vote.
They didn’t suggest, they stated as teaching.
this is precisely what Archbishop McElroy spoke on when he said that declaring an issue pre-eminent would result in partisan demanding that Catholics vote a certain way.
It isn’t partisan to vote your beliefs. Both sides could follow church teaching on abortion, SSM, transgender Identity, contraception, etc yet they don’t.

The Democrats are pushing this and no one has said how they justify these anti catholic policies.

It isn’t just about abortion anymore, even though some try to limit it to just abortion. Remember the Democrats did remove God from their platform before the GOP used it against them and they put God back even though they didn’t have the vote. Watch the you tube of it. They aren’t calling themselves the party of the “nones” for squirts and giggles

the good archbishop has his own agenda, picking a candidate over the issues is nonsense, especially when the Democratic candidate is in direct opposition to the church on many if not most of the issues
 
Second is the continued support of African Americans for a party which embraces the killing of their young; it’s just what Margaret Sanger had in mind when establishing the organization that became Planned Parenthood.
Margaret Sanger was, as far as I can tell, against abortion. Granted, this may have been more for pragmatic reasons than actual moral ones (i.e. the fact abortion was rather unsafe at the time), but what she “had in mind” when establishing Planned Parenthood was an organization that would make it easier to get contraceptives so that people wouldn’t have unwanted pregnancies and thus wouldn’t get unsafe abortions. It was only after he death that Planned Parenthood became as vocal for “abortion rights” as it is nowadays. Maybe she would have changed her mind had she lived longer and seen abortion became more readily available in society, but abortion was not what she “had in mind” when establishing the organization.
 
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Real investigations…
No true Scotsman? If investigations need to be unbiased, then opinions about investigations this more, and yours clearly assumes a lot of conjecture as fact. Here are the actual convictions:


They all have one thing in common and their convictions are not conjecture. But this is a new election. It is not outside the realm of the impossible that the president will run a legal campaign this time.
 
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Yes, and so that we’re clear on that because it didn’t mean a rejection of all the points Archbishop McElroy made in his speech.
Just so we are clear the issue was abortion and his speech was rejected by a significant majority. Were any of his points included in the pre-eminent letter?
Please point to me specifically where it says that a Catholic cannot vote for a pro-choice politician with no exceptions.
Now you know that is impossible because what if you have 2 pro-choice candidates running? You would then choose based on other issues. That is the only time proportionate reason comes in to play. Otherwise vote against abortion, SSM, transgendered, contraception in healthcare, etc
based on your own prudential judgement.
So why did the Popes and bishops create a priority? Should they be ignored for a lone bishop who was voted down?
I would appreciate it if you could discuss the issue without false judgements on the intentions of Archbishop McElroy.
False judgments? Didn’t I use his own words? He said what he said. The bishops rejected his position. You are trying to give his speech the legs it doesn’t have.
Now I think most Catholics can use their prudential judgement as you seem to want to to decide who to vote for in support of those issues
I am simply stating what the bishops and popes have said and shown you their words. A person can choose to follow teaching or not,

I am still waiting for some to explain to me how they can justify voting against so many teachings of the church. This has nothing to do with trump. Don’t like him don’t vote for him but to vote for a Democrat and their anti-catholic policies makes me think they are just anti trump.

Some are claiming that the American Solidarity Party is the better choice
 
And neither is the conviction of an FBI Lawyer for forging a document to say someone was an agent for Russia when he was actually working for the CIA and FBI

And process crimes are not the same as a legally Bar certified lawyer and trained law enforcement officer who is falsifying documents and presenting them to a court to obtain warrants …

Just saying …
 
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