Boston St. Cecilia’s Parish Celebrates Gay Mass

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The focus of the Mass was respect for all, including those who are different.
As opposed to other Masses, whose focus is disrepect for some, including those who are different? 😉 🤷

To borrow a phrase from the Passover Seder:
How is this night different from all other nights?
^Except that in the case of Passover, there’s an answer; it’s not rhetorical. 😉
 
I don’t see how there is any way to have a Mass for people with same sex attraction without causing scandal and the implication that participating in the gay lifestyle is acceptable.

If you believe that SSA is a sinful inclination that must not be given in to, then, frankly, hanging out with other people with the same inclinations is like an alcoholic only hanging out with his/her former drinking buddies or people who actively drink. It doesn’t seem success oriented.

I certainly will never understand why a Mass is needed for people with a specific sinful inclination, unless they don’t think it’s sinful and are celebrating their condition.
 
Agree with those above ^^

I cannot believe Catholics and Christians are actually debating this.

It is so false to use the "let he who is without sin’ line as if Jesus attended the “sick” as a physician who didn’t mind leaving those who were ill, IN THEIR illness.

Until we have a Mass for every single kind of sin we Identify with so we can feel more "welcome" , no one who claims to follow the Lord can say this is anything but a false charity and a false “compassion”
It is affirming the homosexual afflictions as something to tolerate rather than a cross to bear. In fact, some of the parishes have gone in the opposite direction, the masses are probably even more indifferent and tolerant and inoffensive to ANY IN the congregation. THe Church in America hasnt’ addressed SIN enough throughout many homilies, throughout many watered down stuff, it’s always general and vague. This now in a time when Homosexuals aren’t really even singled out, let alone many. It’s more “positive” and No mention of HELL is brought up in many masses. Yes Gay Marriage is brought up, but only because the Church is on the defensive, they are not proactive in really calling individuals to REPENT. Or even more emphasis on the sanctity of marriage, transcendent from the current attack it is undergoing from gay politics.

If this really was a harmless Mass for all. We should have a prostitute Mass, and a social for them too. This isn’t some community outreach, Mass is intended for a communion between individual and God, where two or more gathers, there shall he be. This isn’t some sort of “feel good nonsense” ALL are welcome. It’s about the Vertical. NOT the horizontal.
Regardless of the holiness of the priest, it’s the actions of this week that are questionable – The fact that there WAS an INTENDED Gay Pride that had to be stopped and now they had to cover “a mass for all” which negates or subtly saying, that the other masses prior to this was not welcoming or FOR ALL because what? The possibility that Scripture and Truth on Faith & Morals might not feel welcoming? is an insult to every other diocese that does not set up some sort of MASS specific to make intention of the for All, and have socials afterwards possibly allowing homosexuals.

Unless the mass asked ACTIVE homosexuals to go to confession prior to the mass, then it is still scandalous regardless if they tried to put a Bow on it, and hide words.

It’s a false premise that negates the other masses as unwelcoming!
So we as fornicators and divorcees, and murderers through our word and actions, Should WE ALSO have specific masses offered because we don’t feel so welcome??

This is a sign of the times.

It’s opposite of what scripture says, this applies to the Boston’s Gay mass Erroneneous message by affirming the SIN as IF the Church has been wrong to stand up for truth, and the very contentions going on in this thread.

Acts 2
Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” 38Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39“For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.” 40And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!” 41So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. 42They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.
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  43Everyone kept feeling a sense of awe; and many wonders and signs were taking place through the apostles. 44**And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common**; 45and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. 46Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.
 
I am unable to verbally communicate my distress over the wholesale deception being allowed that promotes sin by and through acceptance and so distorts true charity of the marginalized. Why a “gay” Mass that would appear to do nothing but advance an immoral solidarity and encourage further disobedience against the Church through an unholy commonality that affirms a disorder that one needs to fight against?

Will individual conscience be further assuaged through the feelings of camaraderie that must have been present by so large a number of gays celebrating in tandem? Will the “I’m okay, you’re okay” message further obliterate the divine and natural law so that no one need be concerned about individual repentance and true sorrow for sin anymore? Is the message being clearly given that one no longer need struggle against an intrinsic disorder or fight against sinful inclinations in order to attain a life of holiness on this earth and eternal life in the next?

Someone please help me here - what is it that I am not understanding?
LisaAnn posted a good video by Real Catholic TV

youtube.com/watch?v=jgnfpEY59XU
It’s about an email received from a Catholic who suffers from SSA is faithful to the Church and is chaste and rejects these notions of validation and affirming one’s sin through these false charitable acts; he is a Catholic under that Archdiocese.

We think that this only involves the homosexuals who cheer on these actions but what of the innocent and t he little ones in the pews that day. So do they think that if they oppose gay activism or call for repentance , after they go to this Mass won’t they be confused how to act, afraid to stand up because they are not welcoming to ALL.

This is all based on the morality of convenience than the expected difficulties that are expected in this life.
 
How does one become Catholic if that person is barred at the door? Are you actually saying that non-Catholics shouldn’t be allowed to attend Mass? I don’t think that is Church teaching.

Reception of the Eucharist is a separate issue from simply being welcomed to Mass. If people not properly disposed did actually receive Communion, then it would be a serious offense. But do we know if that happened?
non Catholics are welcome to attend mass they however are not welcome to receive communion in mass . Eucharistic minster lay catholics are instructed to cover the Euchairst wen someone comes to receive who is not Catholic(and they know they are not).
 
A regular Mass? humm…with a social for all…those who are different…hummm. what does that mean?
It’s means after the Cardinal put the Kibosh on the original Gay Pride intention. They had to work around it and be more clever.

The Gay Pride Initial intention, obviously causes some mistrust on my part.
 
Once again, the Mass was not a Gay Mass as RealCatholic TV states.

It was a regularly scheduled Mass with a social afterwards for all people, including those who are homosexual.

They followed the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.

Bold is my emphasis.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
Remember, homosexual orientation is not a sin, but the act is. These Catholics for all you know are living chaste, holy lives.

Let’s not be quick to judge from misleading zealous web sources.

Jim
 
Thank you, Jim. 👍

I remember an earlier post saying that the mass was more crowded than Easter.
Understandbly so, especially if it was a regularly scheduled Sunday liturgy where at least half of the attendees were parishioners. I believe it was at 11:00 A.M. What many will not realize, too, is that at least half (consisting of parishioners) would be receiving the Eucharist, so there is no way of telling who was who, and whether or not certain ones were in the state of grace.

Looks like another score for the media, getting everyone’s dander up.
 
Once again, the Mass was not a Gay Mass as RealCatholic TV states.

It was a regularly scheduled Mass with a social afterwards for all people, including those who are homosexual.

They followed the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.

Bold is my emphasis.

Remember, homosexual orientation is not a sin, but the act is. These Catholics for all you know are living chaste, holy lives.

Let’s not be quick to judge from misleading zealous web sources.

Jim
Are these quotes from teh Catechesis?

How are these comparatible with what happened in that Mass and with what the priest said?

Be aware of those who are turning the CC into an institution of social justice.
 
Wisdom Seeker:
How are these comparatible with what happened in that Mass and with what the priest said?
How about telling us what the priest said? Nothing was reported about his actual homily or whatever instructions he may have given prior to mass. Nothing but the media’s “selective” quotes/comments. Anything else would have been eliminated so as not to spoil the sensationalism. :rolleyes:
 
How about telling us what the priest said? Nothing was reported about his actual homily or whatever instructions he may have given prior to mass. Nothing but the media’s “selective” quotes/comments. Anything else would have been eliminated so as not to spoil the sensationalism. :rolleyes:
When are we going to stop making excuses for such a thing? The proof is everywhere, they had raimbow bands and more. Nothing will get better until we recognize the Truth of our sins and repent.

Social justice has dominated the Church today. Today, the readings, the priest never mention the word repentance instead he said, that we are not to judge no one and that our Lord will judge all in the end. I took is that we should accept everyone and need not to change anyone.

youtube.com/user/RealCatholicTV?feature=mhee#p/u/4/2lKF0Fz4nZQ
 
Wisdom Seeker,

You did not answer my question, “How about telling us what the priest said - at the actual mass?” (Not selective media quotes OUTSIDE of mass.) I’ll bet the farm nobody knows, which is why it is utterly wrong to enter into rash judgment.

All you did was post Voris’ video, which really tells us nothing at all, other than what he or anyone else may have seen in the media - which is never reliable!
 
Wisdom Seeker,

You did not answer my question, “How about telling us what the priest said - at the actual mass?” (Not selective media quotes OUTSIDE of mass.) I’ll bet the farm nobody knows, which is why it is utterly wrong to enter into rash judgment.

All you did was post Voris’ video, which really tells us nothing at all, other than what he or anyone else may have seen in the media - which is never reliable!
It is not reliable? what is reliable to you?

Are you a reliable source on this?
 
You’re dancing, Wisdom. My question first, please.
Let me remind you that Voris is a journalist with integrity and he will not report anything without proof first. of course he is only for those who can face reality. How about you, what do you know? were you there? what did you see?
 
Enough of the games - I’m not playing. The reason neither you nor anyone else can anaswer the question is that the mass was not videotaped. Unless you or Voris were physically at that liturgy, the two of you send up just so much smoke - no fire.
 
JIm, could you lend a bit more support for this? The nayasayers didn’t quite believe you, preferring to run with the opinion of Voris, even though you live there and have an inside advantage. By any chance have you been in touch with the pastor? Are there more credible diocesan newspapers who reported truthfully, as opposed to Voris, the Boston Globe, bloggers, et al?
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JimR-OCDS:
Once again, the Mass was not a Gay Mass as RealCatholic TV states.

It was a regularly scheduled Mass with a social afterwards for all people, including those who are homosexual.

They followed the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.

Remember, homosexual orientation is not a sin, but the act is. These Catholics for all you know are living chaste, holy lives.

Let’s not be quick to judge from misleading zealous web sources.
 
Once again, the Mass was not a Gay Mass as RealCatholic TV states.
Thank you for the information. (For yours and Sirach’s beneift, I was not a “naysayer following Michael Voris,” but rather I am weighing on this, which you have not addressed relative to my earlier question):
It was a regularly scheduled Mass with a social afterwards for all people, including those who are homosexual.

They followed the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.
So does every other Mass in the universe, Jim. Do you show I.D. and a Sexual Orientation Card at your church? Is that required of your church’s Mass attendees? Or of those who attend any social (such as Coffee & Doughnuts) after Mass?
As opposed to other Masses, whose focus is disrepect for some, including those who are different? 😉 🤷
Are there some Masses and some post-Mass socials which do not follow
the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.?
I don’t know of a single segregated Mass in the Western World. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to why this Mass was different from every other Mass which repeats Christ’s message of unity and charity.
 
Once again, the Mass was not a Gay Mass as RealCatholic TV states.

It was a regularly scheduled Mass with a social afterwards for all people, including those who are homosexual.

They followed the teaching of the Catholic Church to the upmost.

Remember, homosexual orientation is not a sin, but the act is. These Catholics for all you know are living chaste, holy lives.

Let’s not be quick to judge from misleading zealous web sources.

Jim
So, here’s from the parish bulletin, which is online. Can one identify the LGBT community without giving the impression of endorsement of the lifestyle?

ALL ARE WELCOME!

PLEASE JOIN US FOR THIS SUNDAY’S
11:00 LITURGY

Please join the entire Saint Cecilia Parish
community for this Sunday’s eleven o’clock
liturgy where we will reaffirm that Saint
Cecilia is a place of welcome for all, including
the LGBT community. This liturgy is in keeping
with the parish’s Year of Celebration and
Rededication and underscores the welcome
we extend to all people.

In order to mark the occasion, Mass will be
followed by a reception and a bountiful table.
We are asking for your help to make the reception
festive, so if you are able to bring a contribution
for the feast, please contact …
 
So, here’s from the parish bulletin, which is online. Can one identify the LGBT community without giving the impression of endorsement of the lifestyle?

ALL ARE WELCOME!

PLEASE JOIN US FOR THIS SUNDAY’S
11:00 LITURGY

Please join the entire Saint Cecilia Parish
community for this Sunday’s eleven o’clock
liturgy where we will reaffirm that Saint
Cecilia is a place of welcome for all, including
the LGBT community. This liturgy is in keeping
with the parish’s Year of Celebration and
Rededication and underscores the welcome
we extend to all people.

In order to mark the occasion, Mass will be
followed by a reception and a bountiful table.
We are asking for your help to make the reception
festive, so if you are able to bring a contribution
for the feast, please contact …
It could not be more clear. Plus there was already a controversy envolving this Mass before anyway. you can close your eyes and pretend but the Truth cannot be hidden.
 
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