British growing more liberal

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British people’s attitudes to sex and marriage have grown increasingly liberal over the last two decades, according to a study released Wednesday. But behavior has changed less than opinions.

The annual British Social Attitudes Survey said 70 percent of people think premarital sex is acceptable, while less than a third believe homosexuality is wrong.

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Nice to hear their becoming more liberal, but it’s sad to see such a high percentage believe premarital sex is acceptable.
 
Migueliones said:
I don’t have a problem with pre-marital sex.
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Well, you’re an atheist so you can adopt any moral position which suits you! Of course, us Catholics are forbidden to even contemplate pre-marital sex.

As far as the British becoming more liberal, I guess I am not surprised. Europe seems well into that direction already.
 
Teen4Christ said:
Nice to hear their becoming more liberal, but it’s sad to see such a high percentage believe premarital sex is acceptable.
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Your thought seems to me to be contradictory, with all due respect. A high percentage of liberals endorse almost everything the Church teaches is wrong. I do admit that being young (I assume you are) and anything but liberal might be uncomfortable but the truth is not relative to anything.:confused:
 
Teen4Christ said:
Nice to hear their becoming more liberal, but it’s sad to see such a high percentage believe premarital sex is acceptable.
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It would be nice to hear your definition of what liberal is. Perhaps you have a different definition of the word then I do.
 
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
 
mschrank said:
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
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So, in your view, non-religious people aren’t human?
 
mschrank said:
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
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You live in Europe?
 
pismopal said:
Your thought seems to me to be contradictory, with all due respect. A high percentage of liberals endorse almost everything the Church teaches is wrong. I do admit that being young (I assume you are) and anything but liberal might be uncomfortable but the truth is not relative to anything.:confused:
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Where have you heard this? That would be a stereotypical application of the term liberal. The same could be said if you say the Church is only conservative and nothing else, which is also not true.
 
Dale_M said:
Well, you’re an atheist so you can adopt any moral position which suits you! Of course, us Catholics are forbidden to even contemplate pre-marital sex.
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Well, to an extent. I don’t have morals ‘dictated’ - for lack of a better term - by an institution to me, yes. But just because you don’t believe in God doesn’t mean you don’t have morals. 🙂
mschrank said:
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
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Utter rubbish I’m afraid. You obviously don’t live in Europe.
 
mschrank said:
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
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You think that?

I honestly believed that there godlessness would lead to another Hitler, or Stalin in the next 50 fifty years.
 
NewUlm1976_2000 said:
Where have you heard this? That would be a stereotypical application of the term liberal. The same could be said if you say the Church is only conservative and nothing else, which is also not true.
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I don’t need to hear anything as I have been on the planet for 67 years and have observed and taken notes. The term " liberal" as it is used popularly and contemporarilly, means to me a person who is "liberal’ about social issues. If you want to go into semantics go ahead but you and I know what a “liberal”, generally, considers good or bad. The Church is the Church and not to be described as liberal or conservative. If the term liberal cannot be used stereotypically then there is no point in using the descriptor.
Example: Most liberals believe in big government and wealth redistribution. Yes or no? Notice I said most not all.🤷
 
pismopal said:
I don’t need to hear anything as I have been on the planet for 67 years and have observed and taken notes. The term " liberal" as it is used popularly and contemporarilly, means to me a person who is "liberal’ about social issues. If you want to go into semantics go ahead but you and I know what a “liberal”, generally, considers good or bad. The Church is the Church and not to be described as liberal or conservative. If the term liberal cannot be used stereotypically then there is no point in using the descriptor.
Example: Most liberals believe in big government and wealth redistribution. Yes or no? Notice I said most not all.🤷
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Have your 67 years been spent in the UK? Notice that the article is about the Brits growing more liberal - ‘liberal’ in the context of the UK (where there actually used to be a ‘Liberal Party’, now the ‘Liberal Democrats’).

So, if you are to use the term ‘stereotypically’, then you should do so within the appropriate context - a country where, traditionally, ‘liberal’ lies between ‘conservative’ and ‘socialist’ (‘social democrat’ really) so ‘liberal on the issues’ is somewhat more complex than in the US - remembering also that the political center of gravity in the UK is far to the left of that of the US.
 
mschrank said:
Don’t worry, in 50 years Europe will be a Muslim continent. To be honest, I’m glad. Rather see God fearing decent human beings rather than post-human wraiths which only resemble humans on the outside but are totally devoid of anything sacred or even noble on the inside.
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I’ll be honest with you…that is the most hatefull, thoughtless post I have seen on any blog that was not muslim oriented. I am going to close with that as I already have hypertension.
 
Kaninchen said:
Have your 67 years been spent in the UK? Notice that the article is about the Brits growing more liberal - ‘liberal’ in the context of the UK (where there actually used to be a ‘Liberal Party’, now the ‘Liberal Democrats’).

So, if you are to use the term ‘stereotypically’, then you should do so within the appropriate context - a country where, traditionally, ‘liberal’ lies between ‘conservative’ and ‘socialist’ (‘social democrat’ really) so ‘liberal on the issues’ is somewhat more complex than in the US - remembering also that the political center of gravity in the UK is far to the left of that of the US.
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I also confess that I am American and use the term liberal as it applies here but it sounds very similar to the UK definition using the little bit of info you provided. I gave a small example…ie; big government…yes or no? Liberal on issues can have nuances here too but I don’t see an earth shaking difference myself.
 
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