British growing more liberal

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Kaninchen said:
I thought that the Irish all had to go back and work in ‘Software’ or something - so these must be roaming bands of recusant refugees doomed to roam the earth forever, refusing to conform with the demands of The Tiger Economy.
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anamchara said:
which parts? :ehh::tsktsk:😛
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In comparison with Ibiza? All but the ‘choicest’ parts of LA and San Francisco - even TJ! 😃

Seriously, an awful lot of California is, well, rather tame isn’t it?

It was pretty tame behind The Orange Curtain.
No we face something worse, Mexicans crossing our borders! Oh the horrors! 😛 The illegals are just coming over to get on welfare and get free medical and education!! They are forcing English out of our schools and goverment buildings next thing you know we will be taken over!
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You need to get into the importing Eastern European plumbers business.
 
:confused: I live in a state bordering Texas. I work for the state. You would not believe the mess it is trying to help all the children in custody whose parents are in the country without authorization.
Of course the American tax payers love to raise these children and attend to their medical ailments.
If the Brits like doing it, ok. We would love to send you these kiddoes. 🙂
 
Read this on pro-abortion site…

“British schools will introduce vending machines dispensing free condoms and pregnancy kits in an effort to boost contraception and cut unwanted pregnancies, the Daily Telegraph reported Feb. 7. Overall, the country estimates 400,000 unwanted pregnancies per year, including 38,804 pregnancies among women under 18. The effort is part of a $52 million health initiative that will also encourage long-term forms of contraception, such as implants and injections, over daily birth control pills.”

Any idea of what age, level of grade or will these vending machines be in most schools?:eek:
 
I am no so sure. This article talks about expanding “chemists.” Condoms in schools in a progressive policy. I would think they already have school based clinics so I just wonder if this would be an extension to lower grades…

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7212060.stm
The MP said free condoms should be available in “places where young people go, aimed at cutting STIs (sexually transmitted infections) and pregnancies”.
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He argued that clinics in schools and colleges would allow students to get hold of information, advice and contraception.
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Here is an article on Brazil also from the Telegraph.co.uk…
Over 25 million condoms will be distributed among the world’s largest catholic population during the Rio Carnival - Brazil’s five-day bacchanalian street party – which begins on Saturday…
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The government also plans to install condom machines in public schools from next year, attracting more criticism from Catholic bishops, who remain resolutely opposed to any form of birth control.
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The government is even launching a contest for schools to design the best condom-vending machine, with an award of $25,000 for the winning team.
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They have trying to do this for some time but maybe this is just another push for it and it will amount to nothing.
 
originally posted by Kaninchen
Could you explain that statement?
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Pharmacies are usually privately owned and run so why should they get involved in free condoms or free emergency contraception.

They are there to dispense medications, that is it.

The government takes it upon itself to fund population control through agencies such as family planning or abortion clinics but why should the government look to the private sector to promote its agenda?
 
gam197 said:
Pharmacies are usually privately owned and run so why should they get involved in free condoms or free emergency contraception.

They are there to dispense medications, that is it.

The government takes it upon itself to fund population control through agencies such as family planning or abortion clinics but why should the government look to the private sector to promote its agenda?
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Well seeing as we have socialised medicine here, rather than private, the chemists are at least in part working for the government. They dispense the medicines according to prescriptions written by NHS doctors.
 
gam197 said:
Pharmacies are usually privately owned and run so why should they get involved in free condoms or free emergency contraception.
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Pharmacies may be privately owned but they are an essential part of the UK’s National Health Service (it’s where people get their prescriptions etc) and provide all sorts of health advice supporting government health initiatives (for which they get funding).
They are there to dispense medications, that is it.
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Not in the UK.
The government takes it upon itself to fund population control through agencies such as family planning or abortion clinics but why should the government look to the private sector to promote its agenda?
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It’s a different health care system.

It’s all very well saying how you think it ‘ought’ to be but that’s not how it ‘is’. It was my guess when I asked you the question that you didn’t appreciate how different the health systems were - they already were government ‘agencies’ in a sense.
 
LDNCatholic said:
Well seeing as we have socialised medicine here, rather than private, the chemists are at least in part working for the government. They dispense the medicines according to prescriptions written by NHS doctors.
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Beat me to it! 🙂
 
originally posted by LDNCatholic
Well seeing as we have socialised medicine here, rather than private, the chemists are at least in part working for the government. They dispense the medicines according to prescriptions written by NHS doctors.
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I knew that. I wasn’t exactly sure how it worked in regard to pharmacies but I suspected they were controlled by the government. Planned Parenthood has been trying for years to get socialized health care in the USA for the same reason so their pills,potions and abortions will be free.

No Thanks!

Socialized medicine is just another arm of the population control gurus, sadly to say promoted by our own governments.
originally posted by Kaninchen
Pharmacies may be privately owned but they are an essential part of the UK’s National Health Service (it’s where people get their prescriptions etc) and provide all sorts of health advice supporting government health initiatives (for which they get funding).
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So they can’t refuse or they lose government funding! Sounds almost like communism.

The goverment in the US is funding our schools systems in many ways so our schools get a lot of propaganda but they haven’t gotten control of health care.
 
gam197 said:
I knew that. I wasn’t exactly sure how it worked in regard to pharmacies but I suspected they were controlled by the government. Planned Parenthood has been trying for years to get socialized health care in the USA for the same reason so their pills,potions and abortions will be free.
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The origins of European ‘social insurance’ systems actually lay in Imperial Germany (a bastion of Conservatism) well over a hundred years ago and a long time before such organizations.
No Thanks!
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What citizens of European countries think when contemplating the health system of the US.
Socialized medicine is just another arm of the population control gurus, sadly to say promoted by our own governments.
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Europe isn’t part of the US political battlefield.
So they can’t refuse or they lose government funding! Sounds almost like communism.
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Well, they’d have to pass through State ownership and control of the means of production, distribution and exchange and then move on to the withering away of the State in order to arrive at communism, so I’m afraid that your analysis is a little off there.
The goverment in the US is funding our schools systems in many ways so our schools get a lot of propaganda but they haven’t gotten control of health care.
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Different countries, different outlooks, different ways. When I lived in the US, I was often taken by its exotic charm. 🙂
 
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Well, they’d have to pass through State ownership and control of the means of production, distribution and exchange and then move on to the withering away of the State in order to arrive at communism, so I’m afraid that your analysis is a little off there.
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In the socialized medicine in the UK, what percentage are privately owned? It seems that if most are owned and regulated by the government, that would be close to communism.

When a government can put free condoms and free morning after pills in every pharmacy, what happens to the individual pharmacist’s right not to be involved? It has been taken away by the government.

If they can refuse the government money, can they actually survive as an independent pharmacy?
 
gam197 said:
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In the socialized medicine in the UK, what percentage are privately owned? It seems that if most are owned and regulated by the government, that would be close to communism.

When a government can put free condoms and free morning after pills in every pharmacy, what happens to the individual pharmacist’s right not to be involved? It has been taken away by the government.

If they can refuse the government money, can they actually survive as an independent pharmacy?
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Only the rich have private medicine, so most of their funding will come from dispensing medicine to the rest of us.
 
originally posted by LDNCatholic
Only the rich have private medicine, so most of their funding will come from dispensing medicine to the rest of us.
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So with only a few exceptions for the rich who get private medicine, everyone else has to put up whatever the government decides to do with the pharmacies. If they want free contraception including RU486 abortion drugs over the counter is all their pharmacies, they can do it. Sounds like Communism to me.

Pity on the poor Catholic pharmacists!
 
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