Burger King sells gay pride Whopper

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vz71 said:
False dichotomy aside…can you simply answer the question?

Does morality change based on employment status?
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You’re the one only demanding a yes or no. Who’s creating the false dichotomy?

Hello Pot. Aren’t you getting tired of wearing black? 👍
 
ishii said:
There you go. Corporate Burger King would indeed come down hard on a White pride whopper, but not a gay Whopper. The secular left has been pushing the boundaries for decades. This is just another step. I imagine campaigns in the future against Burger Kings around the country to force them to have a “pride Whopper” in recognition of gay pride.

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Wow, you talking conspiracy already? Man I was really hoping this thread didn’t come to this. At least wait until BK releases the results of its Whopper sales, then you can make your prediction. Secular left or not, BK is just a business. And like any business, it goes where the money is. You don’t ‘push’ it with the absence of money but with being ye who gives the most of it. Maybe you all ought start patronizing BK more instead of boycotting. :rolleyes:
 
Thorns said:
That is still something that can be hidden. A person can never hide their race and they get judged for it. Gays have the luxury of leading a normal life if they so choose to by keeping their sexuality hidden. If I had the option of removing my skin to avoid being judged, Id do it in a heartbeat.
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The color of you skin is NOT a sin and should never be compared to sinful actions of any kind! Be proud of who you are and others will see that. Look at Ben Carson. Its what you are inside that really matters. God Bless, Memaw
 
Amazing. I couldn’t believe my post where all i said was, i shall never eat at BK’s again got deleted.
I’ll remember that the next time Catholic Answers asks for a donation.
 
vz71 said:
You are.
In refusing to answer the question directly, but instead making up circumstances.
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I refuse because your question makes just as silly a circumstance. There is no such thing as morality if it’s going to make you quit your job just because your company promotes a counter-Catholic ‘agenda.’
 
I cannot believe there are people obsessing over a hamburger wrapper. People need to find better things to do with their time.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
I cannot believe there are people obsessing over a hamburger wrapper. People need to find better things to do with their time.
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It was not of course a hamburger wrapper, but the social context and message and marker which worried some. A Pride whopper 20 years ago would have been simply unthinkable.
 
gianfranco said:
It was not of course a hamburger wrapper, but the social context and message and marker which worried some. A Pride whopper 20 years ago would have been simply unthinkable.
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The social context and message of…“we are all the same inside?” As in, “we all have equal human dignity?” That message? Or the one about LGBT kids getting to go to college?
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
I refuse because your question makes just as silly a circumstance. There is no such thing as morality if…
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‘if’
You are again making up stories instead of simply answering the question.

No one asked ‘if…’
It was a simple yes or no. Does morality change based on employment?
 
gracepoole said:
I never understand this sort of analogy. I often hear people complaining about BET, for example, and shouting, “Can you imagine if there were an all-white-people channel?!” The point, of course, is that nearly every other channel traditionally has been all-white, or close to it. And in terms of pride events, the point for the LGBT crowd seems to be that as a group, they’ve been traditionally minimized and marginalized while straight folks haven’t shared that experience. There hasn’t been a need for a “straight pride” event because most of the country is straight and most Americans have enjoyed the results of being part of that majority.
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Here! Here! This is a given. I wish people would consider being in another’s shoes.
 
SMGS127 said:
The social context and message of…“we are all the same inside?” As in, “we all have equal human dignity?” That message? Or the one about LGBT kids getting to go to college?
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If those are the intended messages - and they are not a smokescreen for something larger - then you are right. Those messages are not anything to be disturbed by.
 
gianfranco said:
If those are the intended messages - and they are not a smokescreen for something larger - then you are right. Those messages are not anything to be disturbed by.
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Well, let me put it this way:

We obviously can’t know the beliefs of that franchise owner. But let’s assume for a moment he supports gay marriage and everything else.

Does anyone here honestly think that this BK franchise is going to say “hey we did great with those sandwich wrappers; let’s hold a gay wedding here!” or “let’s raise money for a gay wedding!” or even “let’s congratulate a married gay couple!”?

No matter what his personal beliefs, it is incredibly unlikely that a [smart] BK franchise owner would actually involve himself into the deep fray of politics. It is even more unlikely that BK, as a corporation, would allow him to do so. He chose an inclusive message because it would (or should, anyway) resonate with everyone, because he owns a business and wants it to succeed.

In other words, there is no way this is a “stepping stone,” and as such, it should be looked at on its own merits. In which case, I commend him for doing such a beautiful act, and I am happy for those LGBT teens that will now get to attend college they wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford.
 
vz71 said:
It was a simple yes or no. Does morality change based on employment?
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Your silly question does beg that ‘if.’ Quit pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes, I know a moralist trap question when I see it.

If I say yes, you’re going to assume I’m some relativist sellout to the GLBT.

If I say no, you’re going to declare hypocrisy.

I’m not an idiot. I’ve seen your kind of argumentation before. It literally creates the scenario of morality being some higher value than employment.

Ironically, given that employment these days is a social justice in of itself, I ask you again in turn. What good is it when you sacrifice your only main source of income?
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
Your silly question does beg that ‘if.’ Quit pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes, I know a moralist trap question when I see it.
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The question does not beg for any conditions other then those proposed in the question itself.
It is your own untenable position that begs for excuses.
Lost_Wanderer said:
If I say yes, you’re going to assume I’m some relativist sellout to the GLBT.

If I say no, you’re going to declare hypocrisy.

I’m not an idiot. I’ve seen your kind of argumentation before. It literally creates the scenario of morality being some higher value than employment.
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The question did not create the condition.
It highlighted it.
No, you are not an idiot.
An idiot would not see the problem.
Lost_Wanderer said:
Ironically, given that employment these days is a social justice in of itself, I ask you again in turn. What good is it when you sacrifice your only main source of income?
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The real truth is the morality at play here does not change.
It does not matter if the person is homeless, or the owner of the company.
But, there are those that wish to believe it does.
And they are always on a fruitless search for special circumstances.
 
Memaw said:
It’s not the wrapper, it’s whats behind the wrapper!, God Bless, Memaw
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That reminds me of when people in the (non-US) Bible Belt area I grew up in said “It’s not the dance, it’s what comes with the dance!”

Seriously, Americans should stop fretting over cakes and burgers. These things are blown out of proportions.

In my town, city trams had rainbow flags mounted on them during Pride week last month. Did I care? No. It’s a festival. Some of the events I could agree to, some not. I went to neither.

There’s something about priorities that I just don’t get when it comes to the political-religious climate in the States. It’s like picking one’s battles is seen as an abomination.
 
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