Burger King sells gay pride Whopper

[vz71]

And as a person with actual work experience with the topic at hand, I would say I have a stronger position than any moralist here who thinks they can just make judgment calls on marketing stunts.

Like I said, go run your own brand of fast food chains. Then you can ask me if one’s job position shouldn’t call for compromise. If I’m going to get lectured about that, I’d at least rather hear it from someone like the Catholic CEO of Eden Foods over a some internet stranger who may or may not even have a job.

Are you really trying to argue that you know the meaning of my own words better then I on the basis of your job?

 

[vz71]

And as a person with actual work experience with the topic at hand, I would say I have a stronger position than any moralist here who thinks they can just make judgment calls on marketing stunts.

Ad Hominum argument aside, their ‘marketing stunt’ has cost them business.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Ad Hominum argument aside, their ‘marketing stunt’ has cost them business.

Oh really? Because I think work experience in the field of marketing is highly relevant (and dare I say, a requirement) to making judgment calls on the strategies. Calling it an ad hom doesn’t make it so. (And no, I am not letting go of the fact that you don’t sound like you have any job to speak of.)

By the way, if by ‘business’ you mean your money? That’s an empty threat if you’re not part of those paying 80% of BK’s bottom line. Sure, you’ll feel better inside but I’m not sure the loss of a Christian buyer is going to worry higher-ups or the company’s investors.

You gotta try a lot harder than that.

 

[vz71]

Calling it an ad hom doesn’t make it so. (And no, I am not letting go of the fact that you don’t sound like you have any job to speak of.)

The proof is in your use of words.


I’m turning in for the night. I have better things to be doing then catering to this.

There are plenty on this forum that have read my posts for a long time and know better then the labels you have placed upon me.
And I stand confidently knowing this.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

There are plenty on this forum that have read my posts for a long time and know better then the labels you have placed upon me.
And I stand confidently knowing this.

And I stand confident knowing that what I say gets food on my table. Calling for your internet posse is cute but none of them are my employers.

Nor do I think they’ll do any real damage to BK.

 

[slapshotsaint]

Burger King was my favorite fast food place. I guess I won’t be eating there anymore. Thank God for Chik-Fil-A.

**Yes be fearful and hate those who don’t think what you do.

I personally don’t care. I don’t have anything to worry about.**

 

[slapshotsaint]

Haven’t eaten there in years. Yuck, yuck, yuck. But my daughter did just put an application in there. She WILL NOT be working there now.

**Be scared, fear, run for the pitch forks…lol Perhaps Burger Kings just excepts everyone’s beliefs?

No, cant be, you must hate everything and everyone who doesn’t think what you do.**

 

[latin_rite]

Odd that yo would call the faith you claim to ascribe to a joke.

God’s law is absolute.
Perhaps you missed that in Catechism?

It is a joke for him/her. When you cherry pick your faith you can’t be taking it serious.

 

[latin_rite]

Yes, exactly. I think it’s incredibly homophobic to suggest gays “recruit” children, to suggest gays are pedophiles, or to insult gays and lesbians. It’s so obnoxious to have someone call gay people pedophiles and then cry about you calling them a homophobe, suggesting that you did it only because of their stance on same-sex marriage. The Family Research Council is an expert at this, as they got listed as a hate group specifically for suggesting gays were preying on children, yet they lambast the listing in press releases as an attack on their view on marriage.

If people acted tolerant of gay people for the last 50 years, none of the current movement would even exist. The only reason it exists is because some conservatives thought it extremely important to spread as much hatred and bigotry and prejudice against gays as possible in the 60s-90s, continuing into modern day, and gays fought back. The modern LGBT movement sparked from an unprovoked police beating. Russia is currently in their Stonewall era, with misinformation (especially the false link of pedophilia) spread daily about gays and lesbians, “corrective” rapes seen as healthy for lesbians, beatings commonplace of gays and lesbians, police brutality commonplace, etc.

Remember: gays & lesbians used to be portrayed by the MSM, with the huge backing of conservatives, as filthy predators of children. It was through this lens that conservatives tried to ban gays & lesbians from becoming teachers. It was through this lens that people didn’t care about beatings or murders of gays & lesbians, least so if it was done at the hands of a police officer. It was through this lens that “PSAs” like this one got put out:

youtube.com/watch?v=r_NAl4AkmjU

At least modern-day false and prejudicial attacks on gays & lesbians have been relegated to an extremist position, only taken by the most hateful of groups, such as the FRC. But they still disgust me when they pop up their heads on message boards.

When you’re dragged to your death on the back of a pickup truck for being Christian in the United States, we can talk. Until then, you have nothing on the persecution of gays in this country. The US is one of the most intolerant societies for gays and lesbians in the West. It’s no wonder the LGBT suicide rate is so high.

More hysterical terminology. No wonder people find it hard to take you people seriously.
And when was this gay person drag behind a pickup truck, because he was gay?

 

[latin_rite]

**Yes be fearful and hate those who don’t think what you do.

I personally don’t care. I don’t have anything to worry about.**

They have every right to boycott Burger King. It has nothing to do with fear or hatred
. (Those hysterics,just makes you look childish. and indeed fearful.)
It has to do with standing up for ones rights and beliefs. And quite frankly your immature mocking just reenforces the fact that it is time people stood up for their rights. People have bullied by people like you long enough.

 

[SMGS127]

More hysterical terminology. No wonder people find it hard to take you people seriously.
And when was this gay person drag behind a pickup truck, because he was gay?

You keep using the phrase “you people.” I don’t think you realize how ridiculous it makes you look.

As for the gay person, his name was Matthew Shepard and he was killed for being gay. The two guys who killed him argued they panicked when they found out he was gay and thus weren’t in a proper state of mind to be culpable for dragging him by a truck and chaining him to a fence to die . This is known as the “gay panic defense.” LGBT people have historically been at a high risk of harm and death in the US as a result of their innate characteristics. Remind me at what point this happened to Christians in the US again? At what point have Christians been at high risk of drive-by hate crimes again?

 

[latin_rite]

Ah yes, the whole I’m spiritually-higher-than-you card that religious people play so that business matters seem beneath them.

People like you are the reason why I sucked at my first job.

So apparently obeying God and his Church makes one “holier than thou” now?
Well at risk of my "playing spiritually-higher-than-you card. I put God before business matters.

Now… Where did i hang my halo?

 

[latin_rite]

You keep using the phrase “you people.” I don’t think you realize how ridiculous it makes you look.

As for the gay person, his name was Matthew Shepard and he was killed for being gay. The two guys who killed him argued they panicked when they found out he was gay and thus weren’t in a proper state of mind to be culpable for dragging him by a truck and chaining him to a fence to die . This is known as the “gay panic defense.” LGBT people have historically been at a high risk of harm and death in the US as a result of their innate characteristics. Remind me at what point this happened to Christians in the US again? At what point have Christians been at high risk of drive-by hate crimes again?

First off. I say “You people” as in your part of the homosexual activists community.

Also Sam Shepard was not dragged to his death because he was gay. It was over drugs.
It is even now considered likely that McKinney (One of the murderers) was Sheppard gay lover. So tell me. How does one gay man killing another gay man = a hate crime? This is the second lie you have been caught out with.

 

[SMGS127]

First off. I say “You people” as in your part of the homosexual activists community.

Supporting the human dignity of LGBT people makes me part of the “homosexual activists community.” Got it. You do realize, that under your definition, the Catholic Church Herself would be part of the “homosexual activists community,” right?

Also Sam Shepard was not dragged to his death because he was gay. It was over drugs.
It is even now considered likely that McKinney (One of the murderers) was Sheppard gay lover. So tell me. How does one gay man killing another gay man = a hate crime? This is the second lie you have been caught out with.

Ahhh, I see you read the tabloid gossip, as opposed to the miles upon miles of court transcripts, interviews with the killers and their girlfriends, interviews with the police and prosecutors, interviews with the defense attorney, and all evidence from the actual crime scene/city. But hey, if someone writes a book, it must be true, right? Just like those books about Obama being gay and Bush/Cheney secretly funding Al Qaeda!

And by the way, his name is Matthew. If you’re going to spit on a dead man’s grave, at least get his name right. Sam Shepard was a playwright.

 

[Memaw]

It is concrete fact that gays are not pedophiles, do not deserve to be insulted whether directly or through calumny/detraction, and that gays do not recruit children.

What about the schools recruiting them? And why do they call the priests that were involved with young men as pedophiles? They were gay, right? What about that Man-Boy organization? It’s wrong, no matter who does it or why. Chastity is the rule for all. God Bless, Memaw

 

[SMGS127]

What about the schools recruiting them? And why do they call the priests that were involved with young men as pedophiles? They were gay, right? What about that Man-Boy organization? It’s wrong, no matter who does it or why. Chastity is the rule for all. God Bless, Memaw

A) Schools don’t recruit children. Name one example of a school “recruiting” a child into homosexuality.

B) The priests were pedophiles and ephebophiles; very few of them actually went after post-pubsescent men. They were attracted to the Church by the close proximity within which they could get to male children. Were priests to have the same access to young women, you would’ve seen a much different distribution of victims by gender. So no, they were not gay.

C) NAMBLA might not even exist anymore, and besides, it wasn’t a homosexual organization to begin with. It was a pedophile organization oriented towards male victims.

 

[Monkey1976]

B) The priests were pedophiles and ephebophiles; very few of them actually went after post-pubsescent men. They were attracted to the Church by the close proximity within which they could get to male children. Were priests to have the same access to young women, you would’ve seen a much different distribution of victims by gender. So no, they were not gay.

I’m going to concentrate on males, because female pedophiles are even less common than female serial killers.

Read some of the chat logs on Perverted Justice where the “child” was male. These men wanted to perform acts that would be anatomically impossible for a female victim. Then look at the prevalence of the “Twink” in gay male culture. Biologically, men are attracted to youth as a positive marker in a potential mate for breeding purposes. Even when the attraction is disordered by being directed toward one’s own sex, it seems that certain things are more universal.

C) NAMBLA might not even exist anymore, and besides, it wasn’t a homosexual organization to begin with. It was a pedophile organization oriented towards male victims.

Their website is still being updated as of this year. As men whose sexual interest is other males, that makes them homosexual.

It’s more correct to say that there are pedophiles/ephebeophiles among both heterosexuals and homosexuals. Most offenders exhibit a strong “preference” for one sex or the other in their victims. If we - as heterosexual men- have to own the “Barely Legal” pornography, the “Dirty Old Man” stereotype, and the “Lolita”, then gay men have to own up the the skeletons in their own closet. Not all gay men are pedophiles, just as not all straight men are. But it’s ridiculous to say that there’s no such thing as a gay pedophile.

 

[SMGS127]

It’s more correct to say that there are pedophiles/ephebeophiles among both heterosexuals and homosexuals. Most offenders exhibit a strong “preference” for one sex or the other in their victims. If we - as heterosexual men- have to own the “Barely Legal” pornography, the “Dirty Old Man” stereotype, and the “Lolita”, then gay men have to own up the the skeletons in their own closet. Not all gay men are pedophiles, just as not all straight men are. But it’s ridiculous to say that there’s no such thing as a gay pedophile.

I apologize, I didn’t mean to suggest that gays cannot be pedophiles. They just are not pedophiles at greater rates than heterosexual men.

You reference “twinks;” do you not see the parallel between them and “barely legal” porn? Men of different persuasions are more alike than you think.

 

[latin_rite]

Supporting the human dignity of LGBT people makes me part of the “homosexual activists community.” Got it. You do realize, that under your definition, the Catholic Church Herself would be part of the “homosexual activists community,” right?

When the Church goes into hysterics because someone says homosexuality is a sin. Then it will be part of it.
OOOOO Right. You’re playing the “You think its a sin, So therefore you think they are undeserving of respect and dignity etc etc” card.

Ahhh, I see you read the tabloid gossip, as opposed to the miles upon miles of court transcripts, interviews with the killers and their girlfriends, interviews with the police and prosecutors, interviews with the defense attorney, and all evidence from the actual crime scene/city. But hey, if someone writes a book, it must be true, right? Just like those books about Obama being gay and Bush/Cheney secretly funding Al Qaeda!

And by the way, his name is Matthew. If you’re going to spit on a dead man’s grave, at least get his name right. Sam Shepard was a playwright.

No. I’ve quoted the facts. McKinney and Shepard were lovers. Shepard was a drug dealer.
His two killers sought hm out for drugs. And like drug deals are known to do. Things went pear shape. And why you say girlfriends? You think putting things in italics will somehow void the fact that Shepard and McKinney were lovers?

It’s these false hoods that makes it hard for society to take you people seriously.

 

[slapshotsaint]

They have every right to boycott Burger King. It has nothing to do with fear or hatred
. (Those hysterics,just makes you look childish. and indeed fearful.)
It has to do with standing up for ones rights and beliefs. And quite frankly your immature mocking just reenforces the fact that it is time people stood up for their rights. People have bullied by people like you long enough.

To not eat somewhere because of a gay cheesburger? Yes very scared and closed minded. But most religious people are and have low tolerance for learning.

Burger King is more excepting than you are.