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I thought we were hiring a leader, a commander in chief, not someone to teach Sunday School.

Carter was a fantastic choice to teach Sunday School, but not so much as leader of the USA.
No one is requesting a “saint”. One does expect nonetheless some public professionalism, decorum, respectability, poise, dignified speech, manners and much else besides in a statesman. Trump has none of that and moreover appears to delight in having such a crass public persona. It is unbecoming of a prospective POTUS to talk like a circus clown and flagrantly offend half the electorate.
 
I thought we were hiring a leader, a commander in chief, not someone to teach Sunday School.

Carter was a fantastic choice to teach Sunday School, but not so much as leader of the USA.
Who was the last POTUS who made public sexist comments?
 
I thought we were hiring a leader, a commander in chief, not someone to teach Sunday School.

Carter was a fantastic choice to teach Sunday School, but not so much as leader of the USA.
The reason we are in this mess is because so few people care about personal values. I don’t care if a person is male, female, white, black, green, yellow or orange–I care if they share my values.

This nation is founded in a way that if we lose our core values, the nation cannot stand.
 
Guess those folks that are not involved in voting here in America will just have to watch. They don’t have a crystal ball or maybe they do use that method of forecasting the future.
It will be a nice day when their foregone conclusions are just plain gone!

If the U.S.A. elects Donald Trump and I sincerely hope so - we can get going on ridding ourselves of the Clinton/Obama disaster years.
I agree, our republican caucus is this saturday and Im voting Trump. I think he will throw a wrench in the political machine that has been running far too ‘smoothly’ for many years now. Just seeing how certain people, groups are frightened by him being elected makes him my choice!

If he wins, our country will be completely different, major changes right away I assume and for the better. Probably be lots of angry and upset people who will no longer be able to take part in ‘business as usual’.
 
The reason we are in this mess is because so few people care about personal values. I don’t care if a person is male, female, white, black, green, yellow or orange–I care if they share my values.

This nation is founded in a way that if we lose our core values, the nation cannot stand.
I agree with this. Virtue seems to count for nothing these days. Trump is taking it to an even lower level. By electing Trump the electorate is exonerating him and holding him up as an exemplar to follow. For today’s youth, things are bad enough without having your President salivating near-lustily over his own daughter, insulting women and bullying people left-right-and-center. It sends a terrible message to the wider society that its good to be a total jackass.
 
I agree with this. Virtue seems to count for nothing these days. Trump is taking it to an even lower level.
Who is lowest is those who push killing a baby in the womb like Clinton and Obama and by the millions.

Trump looks like a saint in comparison.
 
Who is lowest is those who push killing a baby in the womb like Clinton and Obama and by the millions.

Trump looks like a saint in comparison.
I think the BUT/FOR test comes in here…

But for the fact that Trump is not and has never been a consistent pro-lifer. He was recorded making statements not too long ago that are more pro-choice than anything I’ve seen even Clinton utter. Even now he praises Planned Parenthood. Do you really think he will have a St. Paul-style Damascus road conversion before entering the Oval Office? Are we to have confidence that pro-life policies will be essential to his presidency? They are not and have never been an important element of his appeal.

There is nothing ‘Christian’ about his projected persona or worldview at all.
 
Actually, I’ll say that Mr. Trump underperformed what I expected and this is far from over. I think the projections from the AP show that the delegate breakdown from yesterday will be:

Trump 234
Cruz 209
Rubio 90
Kasich 19
Carson 3

So, Mr. Trump won the day, but he didn’t do as well as I expected he would (he won 42% of the delegates, whereas I expected close to 50%). That said, Senator Rubio still underperformed. The winner of the day was Senator Cruz, who was the only one to exceed expectations.

That said, I don’t expect Governor Kasich to drop out before Ohio (March 15th) where I expect he’ll get enough delegates to be a player at a brokered convention.

On the other hand, I think that Senator Rubio will continue to get money and will hang around. He definitely can gain enough delegates to be a player at the convention.

Mr. Carson is a non-entity at this point.

Personally, I think the odds of a brokered convention just went up a lot.

Yesterday’s winner was chaos in Cleveland in mid-July.
 
Who is lowest is those who push killing a baby in the womb like Clinton and Obama and by the millions.

Trump looks like a saint in comparison.
I disagree. Trump says he’s prolife, but he also states quite strongly that he is for the three typical exceptions (life of the mother, incest, rape). Anyone who has researched this topic knows that when ANYONE says they are for those three exceptions, that really means they are for abortion on demand–they just hide their real views under the three exceptions statement.
 
Actually, I’ll say that Mr. Trump underperformed what I expected and this is far from over. I think the projections from the AP show that the delegate breakdown from yesterday will be:

Trump 234
Cruz 209
Rubio 90
Kasich 19
Carson 3

So, Mr. Trump won the day, but he didn’t do as well as I expected he would (he won 42% of the delegates, whereas I expected close to 50%). That said, Senator Rubio still underperformed. The winner of the day was Senator Cruz, who was the only one to exceed expectations.

That said, I don’t expect Governor Kasich to drop out before Ohio (March 15th) where I expect he’ll get enough delegates to be a player at a brokered convention.

On the other hand, I think that Senator Rubio will continue to get money and will hang around. He definitely can gain enough delegates to be a player at the convention.

Mr. Carson is a non-entity at this point.

Personally, I think the odds of a brokered convention just went up a lot.

Yesterday’s winner was chaos in Cleveland in mid-July.
I think we are seeing the only play the GOP has left. The candidates will all stay in with the hopes they will continue to peck away at Trump’s delegate count so that he does not go into the convention with decisive numbers.
 
I think the BUT/FOR test comes in here…

But for the fact that Trump is not and has never been a consistent pro-lifer. He was recorded making statements not too long ago that are more pro-choice than anything I’ve seen even Clinton utter. Even now he praises Planned Parenthood. Do you really think he will have a St. Paul-style Damascus road conversion before entering the Oval Office? Are we to have confidence that pro-life policies will be essential to his presidency? They are not and have never been an important element of his appeal.

There is nothing ‘Christian’ about his projected persona or worldview at all.
Trump never legislated any laws per abortion or funding planned parenthood, he had his opinions. He’s not perfect. He has not actively been pushing legislation or vetoing pro-life bills. These others have.
 
No one is requesting a “saint”. One does expect nonetheless some public professionalism, decorum, respectability, poise, dignified speech, manners and much else besides in a statesman. Trump has none of that and moreover appears to delight in having such a crass public persona. It is unbecoming of a prospective POTUS to talk like a circus clown and flagrantly offend half the electorate.
You are saying God cannot use anyone unless they fit a certain mold. Mind you, God used king David, an adulterer and a murderer. One of our lady’s ancestors slept with her father-in-law in order to conceive.

If you think those opposing trump are somehow pure and noble as they paint themselves to be, think again. They have called high profile conservative leaders who endorse trump rats and prostitutes.

Politicians are all talk no action. They can put on a veneer of dignity and talk you into a ditzy, but in action they are often no good at all. Trump mayb be crass but he has common sense and honesty, which resonate wih common folk on the street.
 
I disagree. Trump says he’s prolife, but he also states quite strongly that he is for the three typical exceptions (life of the mother, incest, rape). Anyone who has researched this topic knows that when ANYONE says they are for those three exceptions, that really means they are for abortion on demand–they just hide their real views under the three exceptions statement.
Rubio and Cruz sponsored a bill with those same exceptions, so they are the SAME.
 
Perhaps a long shot Cruz can still get in but I just don’t see it with Rubio as depressing as that might me. I really don’t think he can even win Fla. Nevertheless the plus is the Rep party understands its divided and appears to at least be attempting to work through the dilemma despite the rampant rhetoric. The Democratic party is much the same but is yet to even acknowledge the dilemma to contend with it. I think its indicative by voter turn out. This simply isn’t business as usual as we see. But the choice of Hillary or Trump to me is a no brainer. The idea of intentional division is unacceptable and a non vote is a vote for Hillary imho.
I’m not so sure voter turnout at this point in time means as much as you might think. Many people only vote in general elections and many others only vote in general elections in Presidential years. Lets not forget Republicans won in the last 2 midterms and yet Obama was reelected inbetween 2010 and 2014. And I wouldn’t dismiss the idea of Trump or Cruz for that matter being a unifying factor for Democrats and bringing out many of their voters and those who lean Democratic.
 
And I wouldn’t dismiss the idea of Trump or Cruz for that matter being a unifying factor for Democrats and bringing out many of their voters and those who lean Democratic.
Absolutely.
 
And I wouldn’t dismiss the idea of Trump or Cruz for that matter being a unifying factor for Democrats and bringing out many of their voters and those who lean Democratic.
Well I shall be hoping and praying for that outcome since, if the GOP establishment proves utterly incapable of putting the brakes on Trump (as is increasingly, if tragically, looking the case) then that will be the final hope for America and the world.

I look at the Declaration of Independence and its high ideals of liberty, equality and the pursuit of happiness. Trump represents the polar opposite of that ideal. He is not the heir of the Founding Fathers. If anything, he is the nemesis of those great men and their dreams. Its sad, really.

The Republic will have regressed mightily from 1776 to 2016 if Trump gets the presidency.
 
Rubio and Cruz sponsored a bill with those same exceptions, so they are the SAME.
No. Rubio has said many times that he is against all abortions, but he’s also said that as President, he will sign a bill that has a chance at reducing abortions, he will sign the bill if nothing better was available. In other words, he is against the exceptions, but he is pragmatic and knows he cannot force those in Congress do things his way.
 
Well I shall be hoping and praying for that outcome since, if the GOP establishment proves utterly incapable of putting the brakes on Trump (as is increasingly, if tragically, looking the case) then that will be the final hope for America and the world.

I look at the Declaration of Independence and its high ideals of liberty, equality and the pursuit of happiness. Trump represents the polar opposite of that ideal. He is not the heir of the Founding Fathers. If anything, he is the nemesis of those great men and their dreams. Its sad, really.

The Republic will have regressed mightily from 1776 to 2016 if Trump gets the presidency.
What exactly do you believe Hillary or Bernie bring to the table re LIFE!LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS?,Just wondering:eek:
 
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