Why not call Catholic Answers Live? I’m sure they could explain far better than I can.
That is not true. You can be forgiven. There is no sin too great for God.
If the annulment was not granted, I would prefer to say.
There is. Repent, Confess, be absolved, do penance (which involves halting the state that caused the sin). As with any sin. There is just no room for both mortal sin and the reception of the Sacraments without repentance and Confession to co-exist. One cannot obstinately remain in sin and yet receive the Sacraments.
If you truly repent.
That is the concept of mortal sin, but there are also Last Rites.
I adhear to the churches teaching in my own life. I do however think that there should be some leeway as far as the Church is concerned on the matter. on a case by case basis of course. There should be a path forward and if a priest can absolve sin why is this one the only one he cant…I could murder someone and get off easier.
He CAN absolve the sin!
So do you think this practice brings people to christ or drives them away?
Also if the church teaches us that we will be sinners till the day we die but still allows us to partake in the sacraments why not this one?
A valid confession entails “Go and sin no more”, sincere repentance and the will to amend one’s life. Only then can Absolution be given.
I think I kept our friend in Germany up too late!Playing the devil’s advocate with you 8282!
Peace
Tim
Other than baptism, reconciliation or anointing of the sick, what sacraments does the Church allow us to participate in while in the state of mortal sin?
It isn’t more important than the other sins. Does the Church say it is ok to murder someone and then receive the Eucharist prior to confession? Does the Church say it is ok to embezzle money from your employer and then receive the Eucharist prior to confession?
Any instance of the sin can be absolved. Now, if you’re talking about a family with children where the mother and father remain in the same house for the children’s sake, but are trying to live as brother and sister and occasionally don’t manage it, then there is nothing to stop them simply confessing after they sin, then going back to trying not to, then confessing again should they fail again. Nor should there be.
I wanted to comment on this statement because it gets to a sore point for me.
Lets say you all had a daughter and she was married in the church. lets say she was married for some time and had childeren. One day her husband starts beating her and almost kills her…this goes on for some time with no outlook of him stopping…lets say your daughter was still young (20s) and seperated from this man…would you then instruct her to never have relations with anyone else and to live in chastity untill he died which could be 60 years? Those youngchilderent would grow up with out a father or father figure which we know is a bad thing…in most cases. How would you have that talk with your daugher? Honey I know you married with good intentions but if you ever i mean ever fall in love with another man you CAN NOT do anything about it because if you do its hell for you!!!
For instance, what happened after the eat my flesh remark in the gospels. Drawing people to Christ is the most important mission of the Church, of course, but Christ is Truth, and if we deny truth then we aren’t drawing people to Christ, but rather to someone else entirely.
I agree to a point but we are called to evangelize and to convert the masses. You cant deny that the churches stance on things hasnt caused people to turn away? Martin Luthor remember that guy and the millions that left? I cant say that they rejected the truth…what they rejected was some guy(s) interpretation of the truth that the church laid down in stone and considered unquestionable to refute. It was someone interpretation of what jesus said many years after he died. We hope and have faith that these things are correct ill give you that but we are human and falable and what was a oral tradition generally up to the 300s? seems a bit touch to me…lets not forget the few years of the “questionable” popes…
I know what happened he said a radical statement that turned the pheracies away. We know the isntitution that the jewish faith created to that point the question is has the catholic faith fallen into the same trap as the pheracies and the sagucies?
If an annulment wasn’t possible, yes of course that is what I would instruct her.
Why couldn’t YOU be the father figure?
Honestly and directly and with great faith that she would listen.
You and I have very different ways of talking to people if that is your approach.
