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It is not only single women getting abortions, but married women as well. It is a question of convenience in many cases, not money.
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Genesis315
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I was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt. I guess there really are people out there who are that evil. That is so insidious.
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Not only surgical abortions, but chemical ones like contraceptive medications.I was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt. I guess there really are people out there who are that evil. That is so insidious.
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Tantum_ergo
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The “gospel of convenience” is preached more often in churches now than the Gospel of Christ, I fear.
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wabrams
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Tyler Smedley:
We’ve had those type of weapons since WWI, if not before. Maybe you’ve heard of the United States Army Nuclear and Chemical Agency.
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dbrown
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So what you are saying is that the only important thing is to stop abortion. It needs to be stoped but there are other serious issues that need to be addressed. I’m with yall on stoping abortion. I just don’t think we can turn or cheek to all the other problems in our society and just foucus on that one issue. and please dont label me. I didnt even vote last election because neither candidate deserved the office. P.S I’m a registered independent. NOT a Democrat. My ponit of this thread was to try to understand the thinking behind people who say democrats are evil. Because if you dive deep the republican party has done some very horrible things in our history. no one party can claim to be the only way. And my point on numbers was to say that one murder is to many. Acourse the holocoust was probably the worst thing in current history. Im leaving this thread now because its obvious that its going no where on both sides of this aurgument. I’ll leave saying peace to all and God bless you.
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“What evil could be so grave and widespread as to constitute a ‘proportionate reason’ to support candidates who would preserve and protect the abortion license and even extend it to publicly funded embryo killing in our nation’s labs?” the archbishop wrote.
“Certainly policies on welfare, national security, the war in Iraq, Social Security or taxes, taken singly or in any combination, do not provide a proportionate reason to vote for a pro-abortion candidate,” he added.
On the war in Iraq, Archbishop Myers said, Pope John Paul II “did not bind the conscience of Catholics to agree with his judgment on the matter, nor did he say that it would be morally wrong for Catholic soldiers to participate in the war.”
“Catholics may, in good conscience, support the use of force in Iraq or oppose it,” he said. “Abortion and embryo-destructive research are different. They are intrinsic and grave evils; no Catholic may legitimately support them.”
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0405185.htm
“Certainly policies on welfare, national security, the war in Iraq, Social Security or taxes, taken singly or in any combination, do not provide a proportionate reason to vote for a pro-abortion candidate,” he added.
On the war in Iraq, Archbishop Myers said, Pope John Paul II “did not bind the conscience of Catholics to agree with his judgment on the matter, nor did he say that it would be morally wrong for Catholic soldiers to participate in the war.”
“Catholics may, in good conscience, support the use of force in Iraq or oppose it,” he said. “Abortion and embryo-destructive research are different. They are intrinsic and grave evils; no Catholic may legitimately support them.”
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0405185.htm
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Tyler_Smedley
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I hadn’t, now I look stupid…thanks for the info…but we are responsible with them we are not going to unleash them on a subway to kill millions of people.
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Tyler_Smedley
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I am not sure why you made the thread in the first place if you would have looked in the others by the same name you would have found the same thing. We are unwiling to compormise our faith for our political feelings. That is where you are going to get alot of argument from people who are.
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dbrown
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Tyler Smedley:
No but we sure did on Japan. And lets not forget the weapons Saddam used on his people were from us.
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felra
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Before you leave, since "I’m with yall on stoping abortion", can yall explain how “I didnt even vote last election” intelligently furthered the preeminent cause to help stop abortion? Or, perhaps, you still are not convinced that as an registered Independent of the horrible cause of the Democratic party to promote and safeguard unlimited and accessible abortion through all the weeks of gestation? The integrity of your voting “rationale” (thinking) with your stated Catholic beliefs seriously eludes me.
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Point?
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Brad
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- I don’t think it is very Christian to call Bush a liar
- Do you care about the 500,000+ that were killed in Iraq by the regime of Hussein. Do you think this mass killing (to say nothing of the torture) should still be going on or should someone have done something to stop it?
- Sin is what separates us from God. Sin is personal. War and poverty are not sins in and of themselves. Abortion, euthanasia, killing embryos, cloning, contraception, and homosexual acts are sinful actions that, if not repented from, lead the unrepentant to hell.
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dbrown
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Bush wont stop abortion no president will its called political suicide. I felt that I could not vote for either person in good concious. Their both corrupt. I do my part I go to alot of pro life rallies, but also work for the poor and others who are in need of desperate help. Love and charity are the greatest gifts. Peace
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Brad
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You are not with us on stopping abortion if you vote for candidates that vote for funding and legalization of abortion on demand. This makes you a supporter of abortion, not an opponent.
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felra
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dbrown said:
**“Bush wont stop abortion no president will its called political suicide” **…really? This sounds more like despair (lack of faith), than hope that is rooted in Christ our savior who “overcame” the world.
**"…also work for the poor and others who are in need of desperate help." **…does this social justice agenda also include working for those most in need, those most vulnerable? (hint: they do not have a voice of their own to advoctae for themselves, and are hidden in the womb of their mother, and only strategic voting will eventually overturn the laws of the land that curreently have an open season on them).
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President Nixon signed an executive order to destroy all our chemical weapons. We are also signatories to treaties banning chemical weapons.
While the United States Army has protective equipment, decontamination equipment, and so on, we have no offensive chemical weapons.
Some weapons developed in the early '50s are still awaiting destruction – the environmental lawsuits have taken decades, and the facilities for destruction are limited.
But we couldn’t actually launch a single chemical warhead right now.
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Tyler_Smedley
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Where are you getting this? He gassed his own people with nerve gas…you offer these random statements like this and make no sense, offer proof, articles facts not random stuff…
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vern humphrey:
I was right!!!
YES!!!
I was right!!!
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felra said:
Have you noticed when you get the “I Hate Bush” types on TV, they speak very fast? And on the internet, they tend to not use punctuation ("Bush wont stop abortion no president will its called political suicide") and to omit aphostrophes (“wont”, “its”)?
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