Chaperones lead Catholic schoolgirls out from "Nutcracker Suite" performance with same-sex roles, causing criticism, agreement

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

Ive got no interest in what people do in private as long as they are old enough and they both agree.

Again, I ask. Why does age matter?

Maybe you think its ok for children to have sex?? Of course you dont. Should we teach children to think for themselves?? Of course we should. Should we let them do whatever they want when their young?? Of course we shouldnt. I dont know what your asking.

Barnesy:

But lots of people dont see any harm from having sex just the way they want it.

Of course… The Bible of full of examples of Sinners who don’t believe they’re Sinning

Regardless of what they think?

As we know, if they never repent - they stand a strong chance of going to Hell. .

If you think that some sex is a sin then you shouldnt do it.

Barnesy:

But lots of people dont see any harm from having sex just the way they want it.

Of course… The Bible of full of examples of Sinners who don’t believe they’re Sinning

Regardless of what they think?

As we know, if they never repent - they stand a strong chance of going to Hell.

You do not believe in the things that matter, the spiritual things.

Spiritual matters only matter if you believe in them so your right that they dont matter to me.

Barnesy:

Yes some knds of sex can be harmful and that is why i keep saying that if it doesnt cause harm then its ok.

So you are saying that sex inside the bounds of heterosexual marriage is ok and the rest is not?.

I keep saying the same thing and you keep ignoring it. I keep saying that if sex doesnt cause harm then its ok and I dont believe in spiritual harm. Your saying that because having sex can cause some problems then nobody should be doing it unless they are a man and a woman and married. I dont agree with you.

 

[Barnesy]

They are perverts.
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And you probably wonder why the church has a problem with people and gay rights? Its when a father reads that you think his son is a pervert. Its when a women hears you calling her sister a pervert. Its when you tell some one that their life long friend is a pervert. Its when a son hears you say that his mother is a pervert. Its when a young frightened boy is scared that every one he knows might think hes a pervert. Its when we reach a point where schoolgirls paint rainbow colors in their school and quote Jesus to show that they DONT consider them perverts.

 

[Annie]

I agree with almost all catholic teaching. Dont steal. Dont murder. Dont cheat. Dont lie. Be good to your parents. Treat everyone the same. It seems theres very little i disagree with. But one is the catholic attitilude to sex. We seem to have different ideas.

You do realize that the spiritual is an enormous part 9f Catholicism? What you are saying here is like if I said I think people should be allowed to vote, so I agree with everything about the Soviet Union because they held elections.

Did i say that indiscriminite sex doesnt have a bad affect on society? No i did not.

as it harms noone i have no interest in what people do in private

And you wondered why I was confused above?

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

I agree with almost all catholic teaching. Dont steal. Dont murder. Dont cheat. Dont lie. Be good to your parents. Treat everyone the same. It seems theres very little i disagree with. But one is the catholic attitilude to sex. We seem to have different ideas.

You do realize that the spiritual is an enormous part 9f Catholicism? What you are saying here is like if I said I think people should be allowed to vote, so I agree with everything about the Soviet Union because they held elections.

Did i say that indiscriminite sex doesnt have a bad affect on society? No i did not.

as it harms noone i have no interest in what people do in private

And you wondered why I was confused above?

You keep ignoring when i say if it harms noone. I agree with you that some sex can be harmful. I agree with you that sometimes its wrong. I agree with you that some people shouldnt have sex. But if it causes no harm then there isnt a problem. Your position is that if a man and a woman have been together for a long time then they cant have sex. And if two women have lived together for many years then they cant have sex. And if a couple have sex in a way that wont make a baby then they cant have sex. I thought that was easy to understand. Maybe im not explaining it very well.

 

[EndTimes]

If you think that some sex is a sin then you shouldnt do it.

If you think that illicit sex is OK then your thinking remains opposed to God

Anything else, Barnesy?

 

[CaptainPrudeman]

If you think that some sex is a sin then you shouldnt do it.

If you think that murder is a sin then you shouldn’t do it.

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

If you think that some sex is a sin then you shouldnt do it.

If you think that illicit sex is OK then your thinking remains opposed to God

Anything else, Barnesy?

Its only illicit according to some christian laws. If your not a christian then its not illicit. Im against things that cause harm. If two people want to have sex and it doesnt cause harm then i have no problem with it.

 

[EndTimes]

And you probably wonder why the church has a problem with people and gay rights?

Because … Active Homosexual Sex is a potential ticket to Hell.

Even if one does not believe that …

Anything else, Barnesy?

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[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

If you think that some sex is a sin then you shouldnt do it.

If you think that murder is a sin then you shouldn’t do it.

No. You shouldnt murder because harm is obviously caused. There has to be a reason for something to be wrong as well as just being a sin.

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

And you probably wonder why the church has a problem with people and gay rights?

Because … Active Homosexual Sex is a potential ticket to Hell.

Even if one does not believe that …

Anything else, Barnesy?

_

I dont suppose that you might not get reincarnated worries you very much. It doesnt worry me either because neither of us believes in it. Hell must be a worry for you because you believe in it. It isnt a worry for me because i dont. If you are worried on my behalf then thank you.

 

[vz71]

Should we let them do whatever they want when their young?? Of course we shouldnt

So we should be telling children what to believe.

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

Should we let them do whatever they want when their young?? Of course we shouldnt

So we should be telling children what to believe.

Telling a small child that they cant do something like play on the railway is not telling them what they should believe. Nobody says that you should believe its dangerous. When you explain the reasons why they cant then theyll understand why they cant. I dont call that belief i call that knowledge but i guess you could say that they believe that its dangerous then. It sounds like you dont have any children because if you did i think youd understand it better.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

We’ve gotten your - never ending - repetitious

You do the exact same thing.

 

[Barnesy]

EndTimes:

We’ve gotten your - never ending - repetitious

You do the exact same thing.

So it appears.

Anything else, Barnesy?

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Anthing Else, Barnesy?

Anything else, Barnesy?

Nothing at the moment.

 

[vz71]

When you explain the reasons why they cant then theyll understand why they cant.

They are not little adults.
They are children.

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

When you explain the reasons why they cant then theyll understand why they cant.

They are not little adults.
They are children.

I dont know what you mean. Are you saying that you cant explain things to children?? You mustnt play on the railway because the trains run very fast and you might get hit by one and if you do youll be dead and me and your mom will be so sad. You mustnt play with knives because they are very sharp and you could cut yourself and have to go to hospital. You mustnt have ice cream for dinner because eating lots of ice cream is unhealthy and it will make you sick.

I dont think you have children otherwise youd know thats what you are supposed to do.

 

[CaptainPrudeman]

Being a sin means harm is caused. The whole point of that argument is that it’s not just a “Oh if you think it isn’t sinful then don’t do it” kind of thing. We were told to evangelize. We weren’t told to just sit through celebration of sin.

 

[vz71]

Are you saying that you cant explain things to children??

Every parent knows that there are many things that a child will not understand.
It is up to the parents, or in this case the chaperone, to understand and make sure the child does not fall into error.

 

[Barnesy]

Being a sin means harm is caused. The whole point of that argument is that it’s not just a “Oh if you think it isn’t sinful then don’t do it” kind of thing. We were told to evangelize. We weren’t told to just sit through celebration of sin.

If you believe some thing is a sin then you are free to ague against it. But you must show people that it causes harm not that it is just against a divine law because if they dont believe in god then breaking a divine law wont mean any thing to them. If hindus have a law that says you cant do some thing then youd want to know why. Hindus wont need a reason. Christians might not want a reason either. But if your not a christian then saying its a sin without a reason wont stop them doing it.

 

[Annie]

When no one litters:

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When just a few people litter:

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When a lot of people each litter:

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This is why sex outside of heterosexual marriage is bad; the harm caused by this individual act or that seems very small, but when you add them all up, you reap the ills sown by each act in the aggregate.

This is why we should not litter. And this is why we should not have sex outside the bounds of heterosexual marriage.