Chik-fil-A Stands Up for Traditional Marriage

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I’d have to caution people about Chik-fil-A, esp those prone to migraines. It seems they put a lot of MSG in their recipe, bec I ate their chicken a few times and got whop-dinger migraines that put me out of commission for the entire next day. (Migraines usually come about 6 to 24 hours after ingesting large doses of MSG, and can last many hours.)

The same goes for El Pollo Loco.

I’m not sure about the other chicken places, bec my husband has an aversion to all fowl, and I haven’t eaten at KFC and others for decades (but I don’t remember getting migraines from them).

MSG is a neuro-excito toxin (as are sulfides and aspertame) that excites brain cells so one thinks the food tastes better, tho it doesn’t really add any flavor to it, but then kills brain cells. Since MSG is also additive, it is then both a poison and a drug. They also spray it on potato crops to kill the insects. I figure those who get migraines are like the canaries in the coal mines, and that MSG is probably also adversely impacting non-migraine people, who can’t perceive the effects.

It is in most of the grocery store foods (health food stores being the worst since it is really high in meat substitutes), hidden under a plethora of names – like Nature Flavors (40% MSG). MSG is natural, since it occurs naturally in some foods, and is especially high in kidney beans and coconut, etc (which are easy to avoid, since they have to put those foods on the labels). Products with MSG include hydrolyzed so&so, autolyzed so&so, etc. See: truthinlabeling.org/ & truthinlabeling.org/MSG.Aliases.Exposed.htm )

The FDA is an evil org for many reasons (they have a dual mandate to protect consumers AND businesses…so you guess which one is protected more), one being they say they require labeling of MSG, but they really don’t if companies hide it under a different name, and are quite flippant about its harms.

Food companies love MSG since it is addictive and costs a lot less than real spices, like cumin and coriander, etc. In fact aspartame might even contribute to diabetes (rather than help prevent it) – see p. 12 of truthinlabeling.org/Aspartame_Truth_NaturalNewsInterview.Blaylock.pdf – and is a dangerous toxin in its own right – see defeatdiabetes.org/Articles/aspart020100.htm .

So, if Chik-fil-A is indeed putting MSG in its food, in my books it would be a dope-peddling, poison-pushing company that cares nothing about the harm it does to people – at least those prone to migranes (which can take the form of excruciating pain, or temporary blindless…fun while driving down the road).

If they indeed are putting MSG in their food, they are evil, like the bulk of food-producers in America, whatever else their policies might be.

Where are the Christian values in that?
 
Yes, but the mayor of Boston also admitted sending a letter to the landlord of the building CFA was consdering warning him about leasing to CFA. That’s a very troubling overreach of power. :mad:
I agree, but legally the land lord has no obligation to comply with the mayor’s wishes. It’s just a statement of his opinion.

I think it’s ridiculous that they made these threats and deserve any public scorn that they recieve over it, but in the end that’s all they are, threats, and empty ones at that. Legally they don’t have a leg to stand on.

I know a young man that identifies as homosexual who worked at Chik-Fil-A for years and didn’t hide his sexual preference. The Chicago CFA has gay employees. They aren’t guilty of discrimination in any form. The two mayors just don’t like Mr. Cathy’s views and choice of charities, tough luck.
 
Bloomberg Says Mayors ‘Are Wrong’ to Ban Chick-fil-A
“I disagree with them really strongly on this one,” Bloomberg said on the John Gambling radio show. ”You can’t have a test for what the owners’ personal views are before you decide to give a permit to do something in the city. You really don’t want to ask political beliefs or religious beliefs before you issue a permit. That’s just not government’s job”
“This is just a bad idea and it’s not going to happen in New York City,” Bloomberg added
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/bloomberg-says-mayors-are-wrong-to-ban-chick-fil-a

Chick-fil-A boycott? You’re doing it wrong: Reports, photos show it is a total fail

twitchy.com/2012/07/27/chick-fil-a-boycott-youre-doing-it-wrong-reports-photos-show-it-is-a-total-fail
 
If they indeed are putting MSG in their food, they are evil, like the bulk of food-producers in America, whatever else their policies might be.

Where are the Christian values in that?
What is your recommendation to get chicken from slaughter through processing and to the customers all over the country without the use of preservatives? What is “unChristian” about MSG? I don’t recall Jesus prohibiting us from using it. I don’t recall the Church ruling against it.
 
What is your recommendation to get chicken from slaughter through processing and to the customers all over the country without the use of preservatives? What is “unChristian” about MSG? I don’t recall Jesus prohibiting us from using it. I don’t recall the Church ruling against it.
Chickens are sent either frozen or packed on ice. I know nothing about putting them into preservatives prior to the trip. :confused:
 
What is your recommendation to get chicken from slaughter through processing and to the customers all over the country without the use of preservatives? What is “unChristian” about MSG? I don’t recall Jesus prohibiting us from using it. I don’t recall the Church ruling against it.
To my knowledge Jesus never went out of his way to cause pain to others (tho he was willing to suffer great pain for all of us). In fact he cured a lot of people.

And Jesus does say, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” which one hopes would include – don’t cause others pain and medical problems, as you would not want others to cause pain and medical problem for you. But, of course, if one really does wish others to cause such to themselves, then you are completely right – there’s nothing in Christianity that says we shouldn’t cause pain and medical problems to other people. And it’s a free country to do whatever harm we wish…as long as it is not against the law or our religion.

So migraine sufferers are really pretty much on their own without any help whatsoever, & “buyer beware.”

What I’d suggest for migraine sufferers (the rest of you can stop reading at this point) is to avoid Chik-fil-A and El Pollo Loco, and give the other fast-food chicken companies a one or two time try, and see if you do or don’t get a migraine within 24 hours of eating there.

Of course, if few other good souls so choose to stand up for their migraine-suffering brethren, they might also consider boycotting companies that load in MSG.

I would hope companies would get the message and take it out.

BTW, there are ramifications to migraines – like taking meds for migraines that are also harmful. I know NSAIDs are bad for the health, esp the bladder/kidneys, but I often end up taking 3 Avil for migraines, tho it makes my bladder/kidney problems worse, for which I then have to take bladder meds. Also, I read somewhere that migraine sufferers die earlier than non-sufferers, but I’ve lived a pretty full life, so, hey, I’m ready to check out anytime God calls.

And since we are a pro-death culture, MSG issues shouldn’t really disburb anyone much at all.
 
I think this thread should focus on the topic at hand… Traditional marriage.
 
To my knowledge Jesus never went out of his way to cause pain to others (tho he was willing to suffer great pain for all of us). In fact he cured a lot of people.
I think there were some merchants in a temple that might not agree with you.
 
Chickens are sent either frozen or packed on ice. I know nothing about putting them into preservatives prior to the trip. :confused:
As to the MSG…
It is a naturally occurring amino acid.
It is simply an extraction of the salts in glutamic acid.
And anecdotal evidence supports that there are people sensitive to it, and associate headaches with it.

That being said, my wife is one that is sensitive to it.
MSG on Chinese food has been known to give her a migraine that would lay her out for days at a time.
The same food, prepared without MSG does not yield the same result.
And we have been able to repeat this experience even when she does not know if there is MSG on the food or not.

She has never had a headache from eating at Chick-Fil-A.
Perhaps there was something local to that restaurant.
Perhaps something in the preperation of the food.

Either way, Chick-Fil-A is one of her favorite eateries.
 
As to the MSG…
It is a naturally occurring amino acid.
It is simply an extraction of the salts in glutamic acid.
And anecdotal evidence supports that there are people sensitive to it, and associate headaches with it.

That being said, my wife is one that is sensitive to it.
MSG on Chinese food has been known to give her a migraine that would lay her out for days at a time.
The same food, prepared without MSG does not yield the same result.
And we have been able to repeat this experience even when she does not know if there is MSG on the food or not.

She has never had a headache from eating at Chick-Fil-A.
Perhaps there was something local to that restaurant.
Perhaps something in the preperation of the food.

Either way, Chick-Fil-A is one of her favorite eateries.
My recommendation for people who get migraines from eating Chick-Fil-A.

Don’t.

To call something “evil” because it gives you migraines is a bit on the silly side.
 
Anybody who stands in the path of the pendulum of change is going to get crushed.
 
To my knowledge Jesus never went out of his way to cause pain to others (tho he was willing to suffer great pain for all of us). In fact he cured a lot of people.

And Jesus does say, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” which one hopes would include – don’t cause others pain and medical problems, as you would not want others to cause pain and medical problem for you. But, of course, if one really does wish others to cause such to themselves, then you are completely right – there’s nothing in Christianity that says we shouldn’t cause pain and medical problems to other people. And it’s a free country to do whatever harm we wish…as long as it is not against the law or our religion.

So migraine sufferers are really pretty much on their own without any help whatsoever, & “buyer beware.”

What I’d suggest for migraine sufferers (the rest of you can stop reading at this point) is to avoid Chik-fil-A and El Pollo Loco, and give the other fast-food chicken companies a one or two time try, and see if you do or don’t get a migraine within 24 hours of eating there.

Of course, if few other good souls so choose to stand up for their migraine-suffering brethren, they might also consider boycotting companies that load in MSG.

I would hope companies would get the message and take it out.

BTW, there are ramifications to migraines – like taking meds for migraines that are also harmful. I know NSAIDs are bad for the health, esp the bladder/kidneys, but I often end up taking 3 Avil for migraines, tho it makes my bladder/kidney problems worse, for which I then have to take bladder meds. Also, I read somewhere that migraine sufferers die earlier than non-sufferers, but I’ve lived a pretty full life, so, hey, I’m ready to check out anytime God calls.

And since we are a pro-death culture, MSG issues shouldn’t really disburb anyone much at all.
Do I want to get a headache, or do I want to die from AIDS? Hmmm :hmmm:
 
Do I want to get a headache, or do I want to die from AIDS? Hmmm :hmmm:
Luckily it is not a dilemma – you can avoid AIDS & migraines by becoming informed and avoiding things that cause them 🙂

And BTW, just because a person get migraines doesn’t mean they are homosexual…

Or that being homosexual causes them migraines (altho I have heard of the migraines occuring after (and perhaps bec of) sex…but it didn’t specify whether it was only homo sex or also sex in a trad marriage) 🙂
 
As to the MSG…
It is a naturally occurring amino acid.
It is simply an extraction of the salts in glutamic acid.
And anecdotal evidence supports that there are people sensitive to it, and associate headaches with it.

That being said, my wife is one that is sensitive to it.
MSG on Chinese food has been known to give her a migraine that would lay her out for days at a time.
The same food, prepared without MSG does not yield the same result.
And we have been able to repeat this experience even when she does not know if there is MSG on the food or not.

She has never had a headache from eating at Chick-Fil-A.
Perhaps there was something local to that restaurant.
Perhaps something in the preperation of the food.

Either way, Chick-Fil-A is one of her favorite eateries.
I could be wrong. I give a place one or 2 tries and if I get a migraine, I stop going there. (Tho there is always the possibility that something else caused the migraine.)

Or maybe CFA stopped putting MSG in their chicken bec they are Christain and realized it was a wrong thing to do so. It was about 5 or 6 years ago that I ate there.

So, if I’m wrong, just disregard everything I said … but I hope some of my links re MSG help your wife.
 
Luckily it is not a dilemma – you can avoid AIDS & migraines by becoming informed and avoiding things that cause them 🙂

And BTW, just because a person get migraines doesn’t mean they are homosexual…

Or that being homosexual causes them migraines (altho I have heard of the migraines occuring after (and perhaps bec of) sex…but it didn’t specify whether it was only homo sex or also sex in a trad marriage) 🙂
But traditional marriage is a great way to reduce the likelihood of AIDS. So before lecturing everyone on the dangers of eating at Chick-fil-A, wouldn’t it be more productive to warn us of the massive risks of non traditional marriage?
My recommendation for people who get migraines from eating Chick-Fil-A.

Don’t.

To call something “evil” because it gives you migraines is a bit on the silly side.
They do serve water, for those who want to show their support for some genuine Christian morality. Unless, of course, the people here who are phobic about the food at CfA are just hate mongers toward genuine Christian morality.
 
How do you know?
As a faithful Catholic, I recognize real faith in Christ when I see it. I would not expect the unfaithful to do so.
How many?
I don’t think anyone would even know how many souls Christ Himself has lead to Himself, let alone the people at CfA. .
Does it post the statistics on its website or in the stores?
Their website contains information on what they do to lead people to Christ. There is a lot of real faith in Christ there.
And, to what faith are people led? Fundamentalism? Catholicism?
They are led to Christianity. The Vatican 2 teachings in “Lumen Gentium” tell us that there are non Catholics who are entitled to be called Christian. My faith in Christ was strengthened by a fundamentalist Christian some 33 years ago, when he showed to me the error of my l-----l Catholicism, which led me to a commitment to faithful Catholicism.
The numbers would be interesting to see.
I wrote, “Chick-fil-A has been bringing people to Christ for well over 60 years.” The only number I see there is 60. You can view their important dates in history on their website, or on Wikipedia.
 
Just as people who agree have the right to voice their support, people who disagree have the right to express their displeasure. Welcome to America. It’s messy, but it’s still the greatest country in the world.

Chick Fil A is a franchise business and it is run as a tight ship. In Forbes magazine I found this:

Franchise owners are likely to be of the same mindset as Mr Cathy because they are chosen that way. Which is perfectly fine, but don’t moan and cry when people don’t agree with your values. Everyone here complains vociferously about gay people who protest, who complain about not having equal rights and so on-so don’t imitate them! Don’t adopt a victim mentality everytime someone disagrees with your position. Stand firmly and proudly and exhibit BETTER behavior than those you condemn.
Seeker,

Most of us understand, as Catholics, that the world disagrees with us on most issues (are you aware of the recent contraception controversy?).

You have trivialized the matter in an effort to make us feel small - as if this is much ado about nothing and we should just crawl back into our parishes and get over it already. If you would like to live up to your username, I suggest that you truly seek what this controversy is about, and please try to avoid trivializing your brothers’ and sisters’ points of view.
 
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