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InJesusItrust
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Wouldn’t that be a circle?
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R_C
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Does this mean you have achieved a triangular look?I have lost 13 Lbs.
I am now the most perfect form.
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brb3
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Nope. The circle (halo) goes over Mary’s head.
The Triangle has more strength than a circle.
But, add in the 3rd dimension …and the Pyramid excels over the globe. What shape is Heaven, as described by St.John ?
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R_C
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A square?
(Revelation 21:16)Y’know, heaven is not a “place” per se
It has no physical shape, no constraints whatsoever We can only know that there is a hierarchy of grace.
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:extrahappy:
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PJM
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YES BUT
As the Son of God; NOT God the Son:thumbsup:
In His human nature; crediting the Divine
God Bless,
pat/PJM
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PJM
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No,
Not either or;…BUT BOTH.
The One Infallible rule in right understanding of the Bible is:
Never-Ever, can. will or does one teaching make void; invlaidate or conradict another theaching
were this even remotely possible the bible would be worthless to teach or learn The Faith of Christ.Here Christ Gives the World’s children [US] to His Mother whom He refers to as “Women” to the bleoved Apostle John whom He refers to [representing humanity] as “THE deciple.” This was done precisely that we would enter “the gate” having been shown “The Way” by His most beloved of all creatures; His Mother. Amen:thumbsup:
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. [John 19:25] [Latin]
John 19:25-28 ** When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother.** And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. **[Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished,[/COLOR] that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst."
Absolutey necessary? NO!
HIGHLY bneficial? OH YES
God Bless,
pat/PJM**
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inkaneer
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Hey, let’s get real here. I’m Trinitarian too so no use in preaching to the choir, is there? Now if you were to use that on a unitarian, they would tell you that the Son and the Father are different modes of the one God. Their idea of ‘modes’ is very different than our idea of ‘persons’.
But let’s get the conversation back on track. We were discussing Mariology.
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inkaneer
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How about a circle?
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InJesusItrust
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What is your criteria for describing a triangle as the strongest planar figure. And why is a sphere and not a tetrahedron the most perfect 3d figure then?
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inkaneer
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Simply because engineers make extensive use of triangles in constructing anything that needs to support heavy weight like a bridge. Look at the boom on a crane. A triangle cannot deform by merely changing the angles. A quadrangle can become a rhomboid and still have its angles add up to 360 degrees. A circle can become an oval and still have 360 degrees. But a triangle cannot have its angles add up to 180 degrees in any other shape. For a triangle to deform one of the linear structural elements must deform in which case the result is catatrophic destruction of the triangle.What is your criteria for describing a triangle as the strongest planar figure.
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PJM
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Using your terminolgy
Jesus Christ then would be both a “mode” and a “person”.
That is why and HOW Jesus the “person” was able to pray to the Father [the “mode.”].
I do agree let’s get back to Ma
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inkaneer
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Wrong, Okay, just totally wrong. Jesus is a person; the Father is a person; the Holy spirit is a person. No modes. Three persons in one God is the Trinity. There are no modes. In Unitarianism there are no persons, just one God who can take on different modes. They are not interchangeable.Using your terminolgy
Jesus Christ then would be both a “mode” and a “person”.
That is why and HOW Jesus the “person” was able to pray to the Father [the “mode.”].
I do agree let’s get back to Ma
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St_Stephen_1
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Do you know how to login to the Encyclopaedia? I’ve tried with no success so I must be doing something wrong. I want to be able to get a version of the article in your link that’s suitable for printing. As there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it when you visit the article I wondered if that option could be available if you login.
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richard78
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Originally Posted by iloveangels
This thread started out a question about a person who was having trouble with the excesses of Marian spirituality.
But then it turned into a complete pile of hysterical devotional STUFF. Marianists just barge in and take over, running over everyone else. Completely typical.
I am interested to hear about how deep Mary was involved at the first steps of the Church. I am always greatly moved when I think that she possessed the plenitude of the SPIRIT of her son.
What could have been her contribution in the building of the atmosphere around the sacraments. How lovely were she speaking of the 10 commandments, of the beatitudes, of the great commandment, of the ‘Our Father’ prayer…
I think that these aspects are missing in our Marian spirituality.
What do you think?
This thread started out a question about a person who was having trouble with the excesses of Marian spirituality.
But then it turned into a complete pile of hysterical devotional STUFF. Marianists just barge in and take over, running over everyone else. Completely typical.
I am interested to hear about how deep Mary was involved at the first steps of the Church. I am always greatly moved when I think that she possessed the plenitude of the SPIRIT of her son.
What could have been her contribution in the building of the atmosphere around the sacraments. How lovely were she speaking of the 10 commandments, of the beatitudes, of the great commandment, of the ‘Our Father’ prayer…
I think that these aspects are missing in our Marian spirituality.
What do you think?
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iloveangels
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Better be careful with this stuff…it’s very amateur and pretty dangerous. Your private interpretations are not Church doctrine. Far from it.No,
Not either or;…BUT BOTH.
The One Infallible rule in right understanding of the Bible is:
Never-Ever, can. will or does one teaching make void; invlaidate or conradict another theaching
pat/PJM
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richard78
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Better be careful with this stuff…it’s very amateur and pretty dangerous. Your private interpretations are not Church doctrine. Far from it.
Thank you for your warning. I do not see bad in the proposal of breaking the nut on what Mary was feeling in her life while learning a lot from Jesus’ SPIRITUALITY. What they lived together has been transmitted to the Apostles and now ew possess their wonderful CREED, I am not shy at all, at all. at all… to proclaim that we have it. we surely have it. Their spirituality is our and we cam proclaim this real life according to the WILL of our FATHER GOD.
Taking this reality at heart could transform our lives. Just TRY…
Thank you for your warning. I do not see bad in the proposal of breaking the nut on what Mary was feeling in her life while learning a lot from Jesus’ SPIRITUALITY. What they lived together has been transmitted to the Apostles and now ew possess their wonderful CREED, I am not shy at all, at all. at all… to proclaim that we have it. we surely have it. Their spirituality is our and we cam proclaim this real life according to the WILL of our FATHER GOD.
Taking this reality at heart could transform our lives. Just TRY…
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iloveangels
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“breaking the nut,” huh?
Again this is private interpretation. It’s not Church doctrine. BEWARE.
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