Clinton Up 6 on Trump in Two-Way Race in Bloomberg National Poll

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I didn’t say it was a problem for ME I said it was a problem for immigrants if they fail to assimilate to our culture by not becoming proficient in our predominate language.Do you disagree with this? Are we to be part of the same country but live and function in separate worlds through lack of a common language? Doesn’t seem very practical.:cool:
I hear your concerns, but I do think that in todays society, they are overblown. As I said in my early post, this has been going on among immigrants since the dawn of immigration.

I can show you a study about a flood of German immigrants to Wisconsin in the early 1800’s, what is interesting about their immigration history, is that like Mexican immigrants they participated and thrived in American society. However, what is different is that it took those German immigrants up to 3 generations before they became proficient in English compared to Mexican immigrants today who are actually becoming proficient in English at a much faster rate.
news.wisc.edu/study-debunks-myth-that-early-immigrants-quickly-learned-english/

“Today, 92 percent of the Latino second generation (children of immigrants) speak English “very well,” and by the third generation nearly one hundred percent of Latinos are either English dominant or fully bilingual, according to a Pew study from last year.
In the late nineteenth century, in contrast, more than a third of all residents of Wisconsin were native German speakers, and in some counties, like Hustisford, Wisconsin, 35 percent of American-born (second generation) immigrants spoke only German.”
abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/study-latinos-learn-english-faster-german-immigrants/story?id=19428225

As I’ve been saying earlier, your concerns are not new, but I don’t think that they are founded in fact.
Benjamin Franklin said in 1753:
“Few of their children in the country learn English… The signs in our streets have inscriptions in both languages … Unless the stream of their importation could be turned they will soon so outnumber us that all the advantages we have will not be able to preserve our language, and even our government will become precarious,” Franklin wrote in 1753.
abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/fear-immigrants-america/story?id=19177944

Ben Franklin wrote that 263 years ago, and I see your position as being nearly identical to his. And yet we still have a country and an English language, and our immigrants today are learning English at a faster rate than immigrants did in Ben Franklins generation.
Your argument, is still almost identical to the argument Ben Franklin made, and yet disaster did not happen because of the fact that we continued to welcome non-english speaking immigrants throughout the history of our nation. What I don’t understand is what has changed now, in that we now need to deny non-english speaking immigrants admission into our nation? And I also don’t understand why we need to make this a key election issue today.
 
It looks like Mr. Trump’s immigration speech didn’t go over very well. According to an ABC News poll:
Donald Trump has made his promise that Mexico would pay to build a wall along the U.S. border a centerpiece of his proposed immigration policy. But only 13 percent of voters believe the Republican presidential candidate could deliver on that promise if elected.
ABC News together with our partners at SSRS survey research firm asked our online opinion panel if they believed Trump would be able to get Mexico to pay for building a wall along the U.S. southern border.
Seventy-eight percent said they believed Trump could not deliver on this promise, while 13 percent said he could.
Asked to give a one-word response to a video of one part of Trump’s highly anticipated immigration speech last week, **67 percent reacted with a negative word, such as “ridiculous” and “disgusting.” **Just 27 percent responded with a positive word, such as “great” and “agree.”
abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-voters-trump-mexico-pay-wall/story?id=41849627
 
We may be the only country in the civilized world that only speaks one language. I wish I would have continued in my Spanish studies when I had the chance. I have many friends who spoke more than one language and I chastised them for not speaking dual languages at home. Their kids could be speaking 3 languages now with little or no effort. Now they say they are sorry. What a gift!
I took seven years of French! I loved it, but Spanish would have been more useful in my life here in the US. Like you, I would love for America to have more than one language at its disposal.
 
I took seven years of French! I loved it, but Spanish would have been more useful in my life here in the US. Like you, I would love for America to have more than one language at its disposal.
Don’t think there is anything stopping one from having as many languages as one wishes at their disposal. It all depends on what you are interested in.
 
I didn’t say it was a problem for ME I said it was a problem for immigrants if they fail to assimilate to our culture by not becoming proficient in our predominate language.Do you disagree with this? Are we to be part of the same country but live and function in separate worlds through lack of a common language? Doesn’t seem very practical.:cool:
Yes I disagree because if it isn’t a problem for the immigrant in their ability to function, then it certainly isn’t my place to say it’s a problem for them. They would know better than me. But the percentages Millie gave demonstrate the vast numbers who speak English.
 
2/3 negative on the immigration speech probably isn’t what Kellyanne Conway was expecting.
The margin of error for total respondents is +/-8.5 percent at the 95 percent confidence level.
The SSRS Probability Panel is a probability-based, online panel of adults recruited from random digit dialed landline and cell phone numbers. For more information, visit

Small Internet poll. Looks like that poll of 800 activists, was done on the cheap. Not sure how reliable it is.
 
I hear your concerns, but I do think that in todays society, they are overblown. As I said in my early post, this has been going on among immigrants since the dawn of immigration.

I can show you a study about a flood of German immigrants to Wisconsin in the early 1800’s, what is interesting about their immigration history, is that like Mexican immigrants they participated and thrived in American society. However, what is different is that it took those German immigrants up to 3 generations before they became proficient in English compared to Mexican immigrants today who are actually becoming proficient in English at a much faster rate.
news.wisc.edu/study-debunks-myth-that-early-immigrants-quickly-learned-english/

“Today, 92 percent of the Latino second generation (children of immigrants) speak English “very well,” and by the third generation nearly one hundred percent of Latinos are either English dominant or fully bilingual, according to a Pew study from last year.
In the late nineteenth century, in contrast, more than a third of all residents of Wisconsin were native German speakers, and in some counties, like Hustisford, Wisconsin, 35 percent of American-born (second generation) immigrants spoke only German.”
abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/study-latinos-learn-english-faster-german-immigrants/story?id=19428225

As I’ve been saying earlier, your concerns are not new, but I don’t think that they are founded in fact.
Benjamin Franklin said in 1753:
“Few of their children in the country learn English… The signs in our streets have inscriptions in both languages … Unless the stream of their importation could be turned they will soon so outnumber us that all the advantages we have will not be able to preserve our language, and even our government will become precarious,” Franklin wrote in 1753.
abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/fear-immigrants-america/story?id=19177944

Ben Franklin wrote that 263 years ago, and I see your position as being nearly identical to his. And yet we still have a country and an English language, and our immigrants today are learning English at a faster rate than immigrants did in Ben Franklins generation.
Your argument, is still almost identical to the argument Ben Franklin made, and yet disaster did not happen because of the fact that we continued to welcome non-english speaking immigrants throughout the history of our nation. What I don’t understand is what has changed now, in that we now need to deny non-english speaking immigrants admission into our nation? And I also don’t understand why we need to make this a key election issue today.
Thank you for this excellent and informative post!!

It really helps to put things in perspective.

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It looks like Mr. Trump’s immigration speech didn’t go over very well. According to an ABC News poll:

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*Asked to give a one-word response to a video of one part of Trump’s highly anticipated immigration speech last week, **67 percent reacted with a negative word, such as “ridiculous” and “disgusting.” ***Just 27 percent responded with a positive word, such as “great” and “agree.”

abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-voters-trump-mexico-pay-wall/story?id=41849627
Thanks for that info. The text in the link goes further, and explains what the video is about, Trump’s remarks about deportation and his ‘special deportation task force’.

It turns out, Americans are not stupid.
 
I do NOT think this will be a popular vote landslide for Clinton, as some have predicted. Which has some significance.
 
Reuters:
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pulled into an effective tie with Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, erasing a substantial deficit as he consolidated support among his party’s likely voters in recent weeks, according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos national tracking poll released Friday.
The poll showed 40 percent of likely voters supporting Trump and 39 percent backing Clinton for the week of Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Clinton’s support has dropped steadily in the weekly tracking poll since Aug. 25, eliminating what had been a eight-point lead for her.
 
Don’t think there is anything stopping one from having as many languages as one wishes at their disposal. It all depends on what you are interested in.
Yes, of course. I do wonder if we will see bilingual (English-Spanish) in the future of our country. I wouldn’t bet against it!
 
Trump and Pence received a very warm welcome in NE Ohio today. Still very much a battleground state, so we can expect to see more of both candidates in the coming weeks.
 
It’s interesting to see at RealClearPolitics what different results two different polls released on the same day get (9/5/16):

Obama Job Approval Gallup Approve 52, Disapprove 44 Approve +8
Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 50, Disapprove 49 Approve +1

One is +8 and the other +1
 
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