Clinton Up 6 on Trump in Two-Way Race in Bloomberg National Poll

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It is unfortunate that Clinton is winning. The masses have been indoctrinated in supporting the liberal agenda. They do not see that Trump will be the man who will liberate them. I believe that he will defeat liberalism and become the savior of America. He just has to get past Clinton in November for him to implement his plan. I hope that he will free the minds of the masses once he is elected. I want to see liberalism die in this country. The time to defeat it is now.
 
Thorolfr said:
I think that conservatism is the one that is going to be defeated and die in this country. That’s what I’m hoping for…
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I don’t think your wish is going to come true. Conservatism, American style, is simply a desire for less governmental control of one’s life. That will never go away because its part of human nature. What might well go away, and what threatens to go away is any political conservative influence on government in this country. Total control by the left will do nothing but encourage passive resistance to the extent people are capable of exercising it, and ever greater efforts on the part of the left to control peoples’ lives.

We have seen that plenty of times in human history, and we have seen how it turns out.
 
I think what we’re going to see is people moving further right and left. Remember Donald Trump’s famous “I could shoot someone” comment ? Well, as much as I hate to say it, and I hope I’m wrong, I got a feeling that Julian Assange’s upcoming bombshell (even if it really is serious) will have little effect on Hillary Clinton supporters. She’s already talking bizarre conspiracy theories about Trump, Nigel Farage, Breitbart, and Alex Jones and how there leader is Vladimir Putin, but is she starting to scare the Democratic party ? Of course not, because they’re not supporting her as the lesser of two evils, they agree with her positions. So metaphorically speaking, Hillary could also shoot someone at high noon and not lose support.
 
So CAF has this thing as nearly a tie?? That’s not good news for Trump.
 
ringil said:
So CAF has this thing as nearly a tie?? That’s not good news for Trump.
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Why? Do you mean because this poll is a representation of who American Catholics support? There are Catholics and plenty of non-Catholics on this forum. I doubt Catholics were the only people who voted in that poll.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Why? Do you mean because this poll is a representation of who American Catholics support? There are Catholics and plenty of non-Catholics on this forum. I doubt Catholics were the only people who voted in that poll.
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Compare this poll to those taken in 2012 and 2008. Why would one think that the forum population has changed significantly in that time?

CAF polls generally HEAVILY lean GOP and yet we see a near tie this time around.

This election will be a historic Clinton blow out. I think folks know that.
 
Clinton ad ties Trump to KKK, white supremacists

A video released Thursday by Hillary Clinton’s campaign makes the case that Donald Trump is the candidate of racists, white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

“The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in,” a robed man identified as the Imperial Wizard of the Rebel Brigade Knights of the Ku Klux Klan says at the top of the video, followed by images of a Confederate flag fluttering in the wind, Trump waving after a speech, and a man performing a Hitler salute at what appears to be a Trump rally.

The video’s release comes on the same day that Clinton is scheduled to deliver a speech on the so-called “alt-right” political movement, which has formed much of Trump’s base from the beginning of his campaign. In the video, an unidentified voice labels the alt-right as “the sort of dressed-up-in-suits version of the neo-Nazi and white supremacist movements.”

The video specifically attacks newly hired Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon over his previous job running Breitbart News, widely considered to be the most prominent alt-right media outlet. An unnamed member of a CNN panel attacks Bannon as “a campaign chair that ran a website that has become a field day for the alt-right, which is racist and all sorts of other ‘ists.’”

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Video at link.
 
ringil said:
Compare this poll to those taken in 2012 and 2008. Why would one think that the forum population has changed significantly in that time?

CAF polls generally HEAVILY lean GOP and yet we see a near tie this time around.

This election will be a historic Clinton blow out. I think folks know that.
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Here is a poll that was done on this forum in 2012. Romney is way out in front and he lost the election, so a sample of people on this forum voting in a poll doesn’t exactly have a great track record as to who wins or loses a U.S. presidential election: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=701424&highlight=Poll+Romney+Obama
 
I think the forum has become noticeably more liberal since the last presidential election.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Here is a poll that was done on this forum in 2012. Romney is way out in front and he lost the election, so a sample of people on this forum voting in a poll doesn’t exactly have a great track record as to who wins or loses a U.S. presidential election: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=701424&highlight=Poll+Romney+Obama
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Your post precisely demonstrates my point. CAF polls heavily lean GOP. As you point out Romney was way out in front per the poll in 2012 and yet now the GOP candidate gets little more than %50 of poll choices.

This shows that a heavily GOP bastion can’t even get solidly behind the GOP candidate.
 
Seamus_L said:
I think the forum has become noticeably more liberal since the last presidential election.
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That or it shows just how poor a choice a certain candidate is. Remember, many traditionally conservative voters within the Republican party aren’t voting for their own candidate this year. It doesn’t mean they’ve gone soft, it just means they have no faith in their party’s chosen candidate and are playing the long game. Sacrifice the next 4 years to save the next 40.
 
I don’t buy the voting for Hillary as the lesser of two evils candidate. People will be voting for her because they agree with her on at least most of the issues.
 
Clinton leads Trump by 5 percentage points, down from this month’s peak of 12 points - Reuters/Ipsos poll
 
_Abyssinia said:
Why? Do you mean because this poll is a representation of who American Catholics support? There are Catholics and plenty of non-Catholics on this forum. I doubt Catholics were the only people who voted in that poll.
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Catholic Answer Forums is not representative of American Catholics. It’s heavily tilted to the right. This is far right GOP country.
 
Seamus_L said:
I don’t buy the voting for Hillary as the lesser of two evils candidate. People will be voting for her because they agree with her on at least most of the issues.
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Agreed. Democrats agree with Hillary on most major issues, even Bernie supporters, who would prefer that she be even more progressive.
 
From an article about conservative radio host Charlie Sykes, a Trump opponent:

The reluctant right’s most powerful argument for supporting Trump, the future of the U.S. Supreme Court, doesn’t persuade Sykes—even though it affects someone close to him. His ex-wife, Diane Sykes, is on Trump’s short list for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Since their 1999 divorce, Diane Sykes has risen from local judge to federal appeals court judge and has developed a national reputation as a respected conservative jurist. In a February debate, Trump offered her as an example of a judge he might appoint to the high court.

Sykes says he’s “very close” to his ex-wife. “She would be absolutely fantastic for the court,” he says. “That would be an outstanding choice.” There’s just one problem. “I don’t trust [Trump] that he will appoint the people he says. I don’t believe the promises he’s making aren’t negotiable. He’s backed off virtually everything.”

Link:
politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/charlie-skyes-wisconsin-radio-conservatives-214175
 
Seamus_L said:
I don’t buy the voting for Hillary as the lesser of two evils candidate. People will be voting for her because they agree with her on at least most of the issues.
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It’s not even the lesser of two evils. There are some on the right who view Clinton as what you’d expect, but view Trump as a very damaging commodity long term for both the right’s agenda and the Republican party. Better to get rid of him quickly right now, then have to drag on with him for 4 or heaven forbid, 8 years. Never mind any even longer term damage.
 
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