The people you saw on the media were definitely not the majority. There is about 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Why the media only chose to show them, don’t ask me. However they were definitely only a small handful of people who are uneducated and acting out of emotion.
Many people have misunderstood Jesus’ teaching about “turn the other cheek”. In Jewish culture at the time, when you were slapped on the right cheek, it was the highest form of rebuke for “blasphemy”. Basically what Jesus was saying when He said “turn the other cheek” was “give them your left and your right cheek because you are not a blasphemer but follow Me.” This would fit in well with His other statements which say “I come not to bring peace, but a sword” and He told His followers to sell their coat if they didn’t have one and buy a sword. Of course defending ourselves is a Christian’s right and duty and many misrepresent Jesus’ teaching here and call him a pacifist. He was no pacifist and used physical violence against the money changers and the hypocrites in the Temple (His house).He is a priest? :bigyikes: Yea, I thought you are supposed to be teaching people to turn the other cheek? Do you have scripture to back up your stance Mr?
:banghead: Every Christian tells me something different. It seems like every Christian has his own form of Christianity.
Emad said:
Yes I know, Catholics tell me different things too.
As I said, if you want truth, not opinion, go to the CCC.
Can you show me where I can get the CCC? Also does the CCC have different interpretations?
Emad said:
Wikipedia isn’t a good source at all. I am looking into getting the CCC. Though I have too much homework to read itWell, in order to interpret the Bible, you need to do it in the context of the times and the culture. This is why I do not go by the fundamentalist literalist interpretation of the Bible but the Church’s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_the_other_cheek
Similarly, a Muslim would tell me to open the hadiths and the Qur’an to understand Islam. Understand?
, I will read it slowly if it is long.
No, Wikipedia is not a good source for most things. But this passage is generally understood this way among most Biblical scholars. It is the only way this teaching makes sense in light of His earlier teachings (re: self defense). By the way, grab the 2nd edition of the Catechism. The 2nd one was translated from the official Latin.Wikipedia isn’t a good source at all. I am looking into getting the CCC. Though I have too much homework to read it
From Amazon
Emad, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is also available in shortened (condensed) form. I recommend Father Lukefahr’s the Catechism Handbook.
Show me one instance of a priest molesting a kid where the priest shouted “God is great”. The Catholic Church is doing its best to weed out these shamless men and paying to the victims. How is Islam attempting to prosecute those that kill innocents, behead them and showing it to the world and trying to bring all those that kill innocents in the name of Allah to justice? Show me one instance where Islam has tried to pay for the deaths of those 9/11 victims or those victims that were killed under the name of Allah? Show me where one Catholic Bishop has called for the death of a catholic who converted to Islam and that the Catholics will shread that person to pieces? You cant show to me that Islam is the religion of peace until I see that people are free in Saudi Arabia to worship as they please. You cant show me that Islam is the religion of peace when I hear Muslim leaders threatening anybody with death if they convert from Islam, inciting riots, and demanding death over some dumb cartoons.
Emad, you’ll hear of teachers, cops and others molesting kids more than priests. Only 3.5% of priests in the USA in the past 50 years have been accused of abuse. That’s a pretty low number in perspective. Protestants have some 10% rate. The church is also trying to reform itself and weed out those infidels. Islam is not clean there, either. What’s the muslim school called? starts with an M something… just do a google for Islam child-abuse Britain. In many Muslim countries women and other minorities also fear going forward to the police to report rapes because their testimony is worth less than a Muslim man’s in Sharia. People in glass houses…The religion of pieces? lol What kid of pieces, reses pieces, hmmm making me hungry
The point is to be open minded and be able to tell the difference between individual actions and the teachings of a religion. Even if 99% of the priests molested children, I wouldn’t blame the religion, but them as individuals, even if they said it was part of thier religion. Is it so hard for you to try and do the same?Emad, you’ll hear of teachers, cops and others molesting kids more than priests. Only 3.5% of priests in the USA in the past 50 years have been accused of abuse. That’s a pretty low number in perspective. Protestants have some 10% rate. The church is also trying to reform itself and weed out those infidels. Islam is not clean there, either. What’s the muslim school called? starts with an M something… just do a google for Islam child-abuse Britain. In many Muslim countries women and other minorities also fear going forward to the police to report rapes because their testimony is worth less than a Muslim man’s in Sharia. People in glass houses…
I do not understand why the Saudi government gets to represent all of Islam. Is there some reason you have for demanding that, before Islam can be anything, the Saudi government must make some law?
Tell me about it.
Well I will give you that, the media is doing a GREAT job of furthering the divide between Islaam and Christianity by fueling peoples passions on both sides. They are surely adding fuel to the fire in many unnecessary ways… but even in more restrained new reports, I can’t help but get the impression that there is a violent epidemic in the hearts of many Muslims - and for a religion of peace, 1 violent person infecting others with hatred is enough to be concerned about. Believe me, it makes me uneasy when I see problems in Christianity, because in a world where people are already on the edge, 1 incident can push thousands of people to making a rash and wrong decision in their faith, whether its leaving the faith altogether which is common in the West, or encouraging violence which seems to be common in the East - the religion HAS to speak out louder than those who are in the wrong.